On November 29 2011 01:29 Hoon wrote: For everyone saying that BOPE has balls to get into the favelas and shit, don't get trolled by the news and a fancy movie.
What happens here in Brazil is the following: They warn everyone that they will get into the favelas and clean it up 1+ weeks beforehand The important people (traffic bosses and stuff) go away to hide somewhere else, leaving only the regular citizens and drug users there. They go up the hill with the support of the Army and Navy and a bunch of tanks against no resistance at all, collecting w/e they find.
Basically, it's the government advertising and trying to buy more votes, while keeping Brazil's good image out there.
There is absolutely NO RISK for the people involved in those operations.
BOPE is just a regular special force like any other with a cool movie to back its name, just like SWAT.
That's not the reason why I gave them phrase in my post man nor did I ever mention what happened in the favelas and the drug lords either. ._.
Like I said earlier, this whole discussion is completely bias and it will lead nowhere to begin with.
On November 28 2011 08:28 matiK23 wrote: Team EG
Nice attempt to troll, but better bait if we're talking about the Elite would be, KeSPA sanctioned BW Teams. ;O
"Every soldier taken into a training battalion is given a nickname, almost invariably sarcastic. He might be known as The Count, The Duke, Caesar, Alexander of Macedon, Louis XI, Ambassador, Minister of Foreign Affairs, or any variation on the theme. He is treated with exaggerated respect, not given orders, but asked for his opinion: `Would Your Excellency be of a mind to clean the toilet with his toothbrush?' `Illustrious Prince, would you care to throw up in public what you ate at lunch?' In spetsnaz units men are fed much better than in any other units of the armed forces, but the workload is so great that the men are permanently hungry, even if they do not suffer the unofficial but very common punishment of being forced to empty their stomachs: `You're on the heavy side, Count, after your lunch! Would you care to stick two fingers down your throat? That'll make things easier!'"
Seven troop is a great book detailing the SAS through 1970-1990 (approx). It covers a single soldier's story through everything from nepalese training to the falklands.
Thought this looked family, i created the same topic in 2004
The best will be the outfit with the most experience and resources. Hard to look past the UK or US special forces. Spetznaz sound like they would be pretty good at causing a diversion by running about hitting each other over the head with iron bars to show how tough they are.
this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_Häyhä is pretty bad ass, not part of a team but a single man with a hunting rifle that killed 505 soviets trying to cross his land. and even had lots of confirmed kills after being shot in the jaw.
EDIT: soviets not nazi's
"It was during the Winter War (1939–1940), between Finland and the Soviet Union, that he began his duty as a sniper and fought for the Finnish Army against the Red Army. In temperatures between −40 and −20 degrees Celsius, dressed completely in white camouflage, Häyhä was credited with 505 confirmed kills of Soviet soldiers.[3][5] A daily account of the kills at Kollaa was conducted for the Finnish snipers. Besides his sniper kills, Häyhä was also credited with over 200 kills with a Suomi KP/-31 submachine gun.[5] Remarkably, all of Häyhä's kills were accomplished in fewer than 100 days at a time of year with very short hours of daylight.[6][7][8] Häyhä used a Finnish militia variant, White Guard M/28 "Pystykorva" or "Spitz", of the Russian Mosin-Nagant rifle, because it suited his small frame (5 ft 3 in/1.60 m). He preferred to use iron sights rather than telescopic sights to present a smaller target (the sniper must raise his head higher when using a telescopic sight), for more reliable visibility (a telescopic sight's glass can fog up easily in cold weather), and aid concealment (sunlight glare in telescopic sight lenses can reveal a sniper's position). Another tactic used by Häyhä was to compact the snow in front of him so that the shot would not disturb the snow and reveal his position.[citation needed] He also kept snow in his mouth, so that the vapor of his breath would not give him away.[citation needed] The Soviets tried several ploys to get rid of him, including counter-snipers and artillery strikes. On March 6, 1940, Häyhä was shot in the lower left jaw by a Russian soldier during combat. The bullet tumbled upon impact and exited his head. He was picked up by fellow soldiers who said "half his head was missing", but he was not dead: he regained consciousness on March 13, the day peace was declared. Shortly after the war Häyhä was promoted from alikersantti (corporal) to Second Lieutenant by Field Marshal Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim; no one else has gained rank so quickly in Finland's military history."
why did someone get warned for posting men in black as an answer when a mod mentioned "Threadstone" from the Bourne series. Especially when it's actually called Treadstone, Jesus.
On November 27 2011 21:28 Twisted wrote: Meh, Threadstone imo.
"I don't have much time, but everyone in this thread is dead wrong. You fools, you've been blind this whole time by the goings on under your very noses!
I have with much degree of certainty uncovered the horrifying truth that the greatest special forces unit of all ti-"
*Crash*
"Who's there? Oh no, they've - they're coming for me! I can't -"
On November 27 2011 18:48 thesideshow wrote: I'll bet no one even knows about the most elite SF.
This is what I'm thinking. The most elite SF is a secret arm of an intelligence agency or something.
I guess I'll take my pick of the well known forces then. It seems people are using different standards here. If the standard is "who are the toughest badasses who endure the most difficult training," there are plenty of candidates. But when it comes to actually accomplishing a very specific mission in a clean and efficient way, I wouldn't choose anyone over the US Navy Seals. You can count on them to get the job done for sure.
On November 29 2011 05:02 kanada wrote: this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_Häyhä is pretty bad ass, not part of a team but a single man with a hunting rifle that killed 505 soviets trying to cross his land. and even had lots of confirmed kills after being shot in the jaw.
EDIT: soviets not nazi's
"It was during the Winter War (1939–1940), between Finland and the Soviet Union, that he began his duty as a sniper and fought for the Finnish Army against the Red Army. In temperatures between −40 and −20 degrees Celsius, dressed completely in white camouflage, Häyhä was credited with 505 confirmed kills of Soviet soldiers.[3][5] A daily account of the kills at Kollaa was conducted for the Finnish snipers. Besides his sniper kills, Häyhä was also credited with over 200 kills with a Suomi KP/-31 submachine gun.[5] Remarkably, all of Häyhä's kills were accomplished in fewer than 100 days at a time of year with very short hours of daylight.[6][7][8] Häyhä used a Finnish militia variant, White Guard M/28 "Pystykorva" or "Spitz", of the Russian Mosin-Nagant rifle, because it suited his small frame (5 ft 3 in/1.60 m). He preferred to use iron sights rather than telescopic sights to present a smaller target (the sniper must raise his head higher when using a telescopic sight), for more reliable visibility (a telescopic sight's glass can fog up easily in cold weather), and aid concealment (sunlight glare in telescopic sight lenses can reveal a sniper's position). Another tactic used by Häyhä was to compact the snow in front of him so that the shot would not disturb the snow and reveal his position.[citation needed] He also kept snow in his mouth, so that the vapor of his breath would not give him away.[citation needed] The Soviets tried several ploys to get rid of him, including counter-snipers and artillery strikes. On March 6, 1940, Häyhä was shot in the lower left jaw by a Russian soldier during combat. The bullet tumbled upon impact and exited his head. He was picked up by fellow soldiers who said "half his head was missing", but he was not dead: he regained consciousness on March 13, the day peace was declared. Shortly after the war Häyhä was promoted from alikersantti (corporal) to Second Lieutenant by Field Marshal Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim; no one else has gained rank so quickly in Finland's military history."
On November 27 2011 17:19 decafchicken wrote: BOPE definitely have balls of fucking steal. From what i've seen they're pretty much the only thing that keep brazil from being ran by drug cartels.
Yeah, right. They are also known for being one of the greatest crew of murderers of all democratic nation's security forces.
But if "Elite" is about killing a lot of people, having action like in a video game and having "badass" uniforms with skulls and everything, yeah, they fit the description.
Pity that for internet youth, "having balls of steal" and being a brutal murderer basically mean the same thing.
Read what you want from Human Rights or whatever, BOPE does kick ass and do their jobs. All these guys want to do is defend criminals and get some money in return. NEVER seen Human Rights try and help the VICTIM, only the criminal.
Don't believe everything you read or hear, I actually LIVE HERE.
On November 29 2011 05:21 McFeser wrote: It's probably an American team, seeing as we have the highest funding and have been the most militaristically active nation in the last 100 years.
I don't understand this argument. Money put in an entire army does not factor here. One elite team. A single bored billionaire could fund a squad to the same level as the american army funds a single squad. 20 of the best guns and body-armor in the world is still something a small country can easily afford.
On November 27 2011 17:40 TheKefka wrote: I assume that a US unit like the SEALS have the upper hand on pretty much everyone because pretty much any new technology that comes around sees its first use in this environment if it can be of use.
I don't know much about others but if I would have to say someone from a pure "bad-ass" point of view I would say the Israeli Defense Forces because they developed Krav Maga. Here's a video about it from human weapon episodes.
What on earth are you on about? Doubt USA is significantly "ahead" in the technology department.
If any country would have the better developed forces, Russia is pretty much the non-brainer, without even trying to involve myself in the discussion. Find it quite the pointless topic, since this can not be verified, like watching deadliest warrior, fucking pointless.(best program ever though)
Russia has, what? 10 times the manpower than the USA and an army of like 20.000.000 soldiers including reserves. Pretty sure they would have the better developed forces, if any.
Again, can be discussed, but no point offering anything else than an opinion since there is no way of putting it to the test.
Um Russia has an 2,000,000 armed forces members including reserves. The US has about 3,000,000 including reserves.
Also Defense Spending by Country in Billions The US spends almost as much as the rest of the world COMBINED
Pretty clear that if any country has a technological at advantage it is going to be the US.
Also the US has about twice the population of Russia. I hope you were joking, but somehow I think you were serious.
On November 27 2011 17:19 decafchicken wrote: BOPE definitely have balls of fucking steal. From what i've seen they're pretty much the only thing that keep brazil from being ran by drug cartels.
LOL, its not like that... for starters, BOPE is a division of the Rio de Janeiro police force, meaning they only act in Rio, and drugs are somewhat of a problem, but not even close to ''running things over'' in Rio.
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