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Cuiu
Germany410 Posts
On October 27 2011 03:07 Nash wrote: are you sure you're not confusing it with his talk about the tempest? am i sure im not the one that is confused? hmm. edit: regarding the big splash radius no he is right i think he said that in the q&a | ||
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Alvas
United States309 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
1. the thor has incredible range, so trying to avoid it is nothing more than a guessing game for zerg 2. the thor deals massive damage, so one shot and it is over compared to the warhound, which are many small units and deal less damage, the zerg will always have a warning when the first missile of the hound at the very front hits his mutas. | ||
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B0nes
United States16 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10376 Posts
On October 27 2011 03:59 Lurk wrote: Err, well, archon splash area is four times that of the thor. So if it was just like archon's it would be bigger than the thor's :D P.S.: The warhound has 4 attacks with it's anti-air cannon, each doing 4+4 damage, so a maximum of 32 damage per volley (a thor has 48). Thank god, someone remembers some details xD Otherwise though, really how can NO ONE know or have shared the details of the new units other than what blizzcon told us? (cost, etc.) ?!?! Also, is there a range upgrade on the Goliath? I would think 7 range is a bit hard to deal vs mutas you would need to spread the Warhounds out. Marines with 5 range do fine because they're so small so that so many of them can shoot at us, plus they move fast and stim does a lot of damage if the zerg messes up. But I guess they want you to split your units up more. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
And well playing mech only means you can go for vehicle armor as well. But tbh if i would have had enough money for the ce i would want my money back ;( , have to play wol to get the thors with wings back  . | ||
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Cuiu
Germany410 Posts
On October 27 2011 05:33 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Thank god, someone remembers some details xD Otherwise though, really how can NO ONE know or have shared the details of the new units other than what blizzcon told us? (cost, etc.) ?!?! Also, is there a range upgrade on the Goliath? I would think 7 range is a bit hard to deal vs mutas you would need to spread the Warhounds out. Marines with 5 range do fine because they're so small so that so many of them can shoot at us, plus they move fast and stim does a lot of damage if the zerg messes up. But I guess they want you to split your units up more. because that doesnt matter. Numbers can be easily changed an this the last thing what blizzard is doing. you dont start developing a game around numbers -.- and even if they try they would never never get it right. BETA | ||
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galivet
288 Posts
All these questions that certainly do have factual answers at this point in time, but all that gets posted here is "I heard", "looks like", "I assume", and "I think". No one cares about conjecture or "deduction" in a thread that is just asking for what the current factual reality of the beta is. | ||
Eps
Canada240 Posts
On October 27 2011 03:55 GentleDrill wrote: Obviously it consists of multiple shots, just like the Thor. I really wish whatever genius wrote down the stats had thought to include that. I can't count the number of people who've looked at that one number and assumed that's the total damage it deals per shot. Even though it's multiple shots, the low damage stats means that Enemy Armour has a huge effect on their DPS. It is also means that its role as dedicated AA has to be supplemented by other units due to very low Armour Damage vs Armoured Air. Meaning pure Mech play is not viable for Terrans in most match ups. Against Toss, well pure Mech always had problems anyways and is only being somewhat "discovered" right now. Voidrays pose a potential threat. Against Zerg, Marine-Ghosts would be needed when the Broods come. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
Everything from looks, animations and stats just seemed really unfinished. All we can assume is that its a smaller, lighter version of the thor, and probably equally effective cost for cost. | ||
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Eiviyn
United Kingdom169 Posts
On October 27 2011 04:51 Alpina wrote: really? o_O It always looked like thors have way bigger splash... Thor deals full damage in 0.5 radius Archon Full damage: 0.1 radius (basically single target) Half damage: 0.4 radius (less than thor) Quarter damage: 0.8 However the numbers here don't mean much. Think of damage radii as being circles, and of units as also being circles. A unit is "hit" if the circles overlap, even a tiny bit. Mutalisks have a radius of 0.5, which means that a Thor's AA will hit any mutalisk that is less than 1 from the impact site. This gives the Thor splash around the same size as a supply depot. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10376 Posts
On October 27 2011 05:43 Cuiu wrote: because that doesnt matter. Numbers can be easily changed an this the last thing what blizzard is doing. you dont start developing a game around numbers -.- and even if they try they would never never get it right. BETA This makes no sense, they already developed the units, their expected roles, their mechanics. The numbers matter cus it shows what blizzard is currently thinking of o.o | ||
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GinDo
3327 Posts
On October 27 2011 05:25 Alvas wrote: Seems like there is a lot of anti-muta going on it HotS Just like in BW. Medics, Corsairs, Goliath Range, and Valkyries Oh My O_O! | ||
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MasterKush
United Kingdom568 Posts
Edit: And to clarify, he tested the unit somewhat at Blizzcon. | ||
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reneg
United States859 Posts
On October 27 2011 11:38 GinDo wrote: Just like in BW. Medics, Corsairs, Goliath Range, and Valkyries Oh My O_O! Very true. And then we should also all realize that HotS is still in ALPHA. Which means that any (and many) of these attacks, skills, and abilities are highly likely to change a great deal, and be completely different by the time the actual beta is released. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
Their splash radius is about the same as the thors, so they'll hit clumped mutas hard, but magic box isn't as effective due to just plain having a lot more attacks. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
but thats just personal. | ||
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Raiznhell
Canada786 Posts
On October 27 2011 05:25 Alvas wrote: Seems like there is a lot of anti-muta going on it HotS well the warhound is just stepping in for the thor and the protoss actually does struggle against mutas. | ||
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mlspmatt
Canada404 Posts
On October 27 2011 03:59 Lurk wrote: Err, well, archon splash area is four times that of the thor. So if it was just like archon's it would be bigger than the thor's :D P.S.: The warhound has 4 attacks with it's anti-air cannon, each doing 4+4 damage, so a maximum of 32 damage per volley (a thor has 48). Holy #@!&. Thats a ton of damage. 32 per volley plus a bigger splash radius and faster and massable? Sounds good. Does anyone know if it requires an armory? Or just factory and tech lab? | ||
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Headnoob
Australia2108 Posts
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