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As the Korean bw/sc2 players must sooner or later join the military I was wondering what usage the Korean military can have of a pro gamer and so I have a couple of questions:
Can somebody reveal what positions have been the most common?
Are Korean military aware of their pro gamer background and if so how to utilize them in the military?
How would you utilize a pro gamer to the fullest in the military?
What pro gamers have climbed the (military) ladder the most?
Is the mindset and strategical skills of great player like Boxer comparable to a skilled general?
If a there was a general with a terran pro gaming background would he be better than his protoss or zerg counterparts?
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I don't know, but I'd take a guess it means jack squat. You'd be treated no differently than anyone else.
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If a there was a general with a terran pro gaming background would he be better than his protoss or zerg counterparts?
i want to answer with a picture:
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Are Korean military aware of their pro gamer background and if so how to utilize them in the military?
The Korean Air force has a Brood War team. (It's terrible)
How would you utilize a pro gamer to the fullest in the military?
If I were a Korean, I would put them in a position that has minimal danger, as their deaths would result in much mourning and public outcry. To be honest, I have no idea why they would be any different from a regular soldier.
Is the mindset and strategical skills of great player like Boxer comparable to a skilled general?
No. The skills required for generalship are not "win at any cost" and "mange resources effectively". What a general needs is leadership, social strength, and persona. Most pro-gamers do not have all three of these, though that is debatable.
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I am sorry, but this question seems to be really odd oO.
I think that the korean military has its on BW team, so pro gamers will eventually have the oportunity to play there.
Why should gamers have special skills usefull to the military ?
Of course gamers are able to perform well as soldiers and climb the rank just as any other man of any profession. I just dont get the connection you are implying. Playing a game is playing a game and has nothing todo with the military.
Maybe if starcraft gets a bureaucracy overhead like ordering toilet paper for marines and filling out requisition forms for non fitting marine boots, and joining a political starcraft party to gain ladder ranks, SC2 would be more realistic and people playing it would be of actual use for the military lol.
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On October 08 2011 07:09 PraetorialGamer wrote:Show nested quote +
Are Korean military aware of their pro gamer background and if so how to utilize them in the military?
The Korean Air force has a Brood War team. (It's terrible)
Actually the the team has had a lot of the best SC players in the world in it at one time or another. The problem is military duties keep them from practicing like they used it so they fall behind. It's basically where the best pro SC:BW players go to die.
P.S. The Korean Air Force makes use of them for PR purposes instead of military ones.
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On October 08 2011 07:02 archonOOid wrote:
As the Korean bw/sc2 players must sooner or later join the military I was wondering what usage the Korean military can have of a pro gamer and so I have a couple of questions:
Can somebody reveal what positions have been the most common?
Are Korean military aware of their pro gamer background and if so how to utilize them in the military?
How would you utilize a pro gamer to the fullest in the military?
What pro gamers have climbed the (military) ladder the most?
Is the mindset and strategical skills of great player like Boxer comparable to a skilled general?
If a there was a general with a terran pro gaming background would he be better than his protoss or zerg counterparts?
You know what the fuck would happen if  Kwanro would become a general of the South Korean army?
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i shudder to think of General BitByBit...
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If I'm not mistaken they normally have jobs that require a computer. Things like typing reports and doing inventory checks. I guess they can do other jobs if they wanted but I think they normally stick with that.
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On October 08 2011 07:31 amd098 wrote:
i shudder to think of General BitByBit...
I would be too if I lived in N. Korea
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On October 08 2011 07:31 amd098 wrote:
i shudder to think of General BitByBit...
He'd be right at home at the head of the (North) Korean People's Army.
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On October 08 2011 07:02 archonOOid wrote:
Is the mindset and strategical skills of great player like Boxer comparable to a skilled general?
no. real life is a completely different ballgame.
Even Flash would be clueless in a general of the army setting
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I would imagine they wouldn't take into account anything, you will be treated like anyone else. They will go in as recruits and stay that way until they have earned rank and actually get respect. If BoxeR was in the military right now with no rank he has no authority over anybody, and probably doesn't speak to anyone of higher rank unless spoken too.
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Air force is the only thing i can think of? flying a fighter jet probably requires split decision reaction time, starcraft might build on that a little
chances are that the progamers are probably the skrawniest in the military so they probably do not have any positions that require physical work
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This seems like a terrible instance of overstating the skills of a game. Soldiers do not have stats. Engines do not break after they take X amount of damage. Life is incredibly more complex and while decision making skills may be higher among progamers, their knowledge would be reset to zero.
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Would CS players be used to develop tactics in a counter terrorist mission? If not, then how could such a macroscopic game such as starcraft be used for something on such a grand scale?
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just curious, what do the progamers work as in the armed forces? i can imagine they cant fly planes because theyre eyesight may not be so good due to playing a lot( not intended to be racist btw)
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I think pro-gamers would make great drone-controllers.
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I read somewhere that in Korea professional players were valued for their financial analytic skills and decision making after they retire.
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It is absolutely ridiculous to assume that there is a translation of skills from playing computer games to the skills / disciplines required in the military. It's almost offensive.
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I doubt it would mean anything tbh. They wouldn't even take it into account when they choose your role.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
On October 08 2011 07:45 dapierow wrote:
Air force is the only thing i can think of? flying a fighter jet probably requires split decision reaction time, starcraft might build on that a little
chances are that the progamers are probably the skrawniest in the military so they probably do not have any positions that require physical work
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l9EUX.jpg)
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Korean Pro gamers in the air force team ACE is used for PR.
ACE has the past greats (though some are still damn good, i.e. Kal incoming) and no longer gets the TV time on their regular team. Now on ACE, fans get to see them again. Ruby and FBH both saw revivals though with FBH its hard to tell as we watch him for his entertainment value.
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I hear that the chineese military only uses Highly rated Imperial Gaurd players as generals in their army
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What do you think they put them as squad leaders, or generals b/c there good at a video game lol? They put them on Potato peeling duty since they are fast with there hands. The army is all about breaking down your ego and all of your habits building you up with there habits to become a soldier. I could see this now what are you qualifications I am really good at video games. The officer would give you the stink eye.
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These 'skills' are at a computer game. Whether it be a strategy game or not, it cannot be comparable to the army.... I bet you someone who played CoD would have more 'skills' than a hardcore sc2 player.
So to answer simply: No difference.
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On October 08 2011 08:34 zeOllie wrote:
These 'skills' are at a computer game. Whether it be a strategy game or not, it cannot be comparable to the army.... I bet you someone who played CoD would have more 'skills' than a hardcore sc2 player.
So to answer simply: No difference.
and what would those COD skills be?!
rush into a building and tirelessly shoot in any direction? come on 
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I diddn't know that they had to join the military O_O Thats a scary thought.
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they give them guns and tell them to run and shoot.
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On October 08 2011 08:26 Zisef wrote:
What do you think they put them as squad leaders, or generals b/c there good at a video game lol? They put them on Potato peeling duty since they are fast with there hands. The army is all about breaking down your ego and all of your habits building you up with there habits to become a soldier. I could see this now what are you qualifications I am really good at video games. The officer would give you the stink eye.
LOL so true. Let's not forget that the SC2 (and e-sports in general) scene isn't super well known even in Korean mainstream society. The stereotype that all of South Korea plays StarCraft is so overblown.
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On October 08 2011 07:37 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 07:31 amd098 wrote:
i shudder to think of General BitByBit... I would be too if I lived in N. Korea
I´d be much more worried beeing a south korean worker or marine..
"Really ? We move in a long, long line into that bunker ? "
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A documentary about korean progamers (the hax life I think) interviews a cs progamer before he heads to national service who 'heard' from other progamers that their cs skills help them in shooting guns quite a lot (make of that what you will).
As for the rest of this thread, everything is completely irrelevant without an actual korean's input.
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