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Ises
131 Posts
Some of his BM from his stream for instance are just for entertainment really. He can't seriously believe Minigun doesn't deserve wins when he have lost so many series to him :D But still it's very annoying every time he lose and the idra bashers goes on gloat mode... | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On October 04 2011 21:33 HystericaLaughter wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=268904 Look at the poll for 'who doesnt deserve to be on this list' http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=271737 This is a little ridiculous but it does show what I'm talking about So you find one conspiracy theorist moron and another poll highlighting that people don't think he should be considered one of the best foreigners? I think most of the people in the upper poll are better than IdrA, particularly when that poll was made, based on results. It's nothing mind blowing. | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
On October 04 2011 21:26 svefnleysi wrote: He's a bad mannered egomaniac and you're surprised people don't like him? Now that he has some results (I'm not counting IPL season 1 as "results") maybe he can afford a bit more to act the way he does. However, a win is a win, and people shouldn't be taking away from that. Congrats to Idra. He won MLG DC in 2010, two showmatches (against HuK and QXC respectively) and USA IeSF qualifier in addition to the first IPL. Most of the respect people have for him comes from him being one of the few foreigners to go to Korea and join a pro-team in BW. He wasn't particularly successful in BW, staying on CJ's B-team for the longest time if I can recall, but he got further than 90% of all "good" foreigners ever did. So there is plenty of reason to respect IdrA as a player, I didn't even mention his good GSL finish. He hasn't been performing very well recently, so people try to come up with excuses for him winning IEM now and just hate on him more, as far as I understand anyway. | ||
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Sith Inquisitor
Germany113 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9447 Posts
On October 04 2011 21:27 tnud wrote: Well, I can't speak for others but, as what you might call an IdrA hater I can't stand him. He's complaining way to much, which eggs on his legion of fans to bring up non-issues. He's a poor loser (to say the least), a pretty bad winner and his fighting spirit is horrible. He IS a very good zerg, I know that. But I will forever root for the opposing player until IdrA learns how to be a winner and not just a "solid macro zerg". Cheese once in a while god damn it, something different. :/ So you dont like people who prefers to try to win becasue they have better mechanics, instead of relying on coinflips? Stupid opinion imo. | ||
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BioNova
United States598 Posts
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ThyHate
240 Posts
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HystericaLaughter
Australia720 Posts
On October 04 2011 21:38 Mordiford wrote: So you find one conspiracy theorist moron and another poll highlighting that people don't think he should be considered one of the best foreigners? I think most of the people in the upper poll are better than IdrA, particularly when that poll was made, based on results. It's nothing mind blowing. Theres obviously more... I just quickly quoted you with a couple of examples. | ||
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Ostby
Norway38 Posts
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
I'm a huge fan of EG and when IdrA isn't making ludicrous balance claims, he seems like a great guy from Inside the Game and other stuff. I just don't like the consequences of his actions in the community. EDIT: To sum my point up, "most of my fans are pretty retarded" - Greg "IdrA" Fields | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
On October 04 2011 21:16 HystericaLaughter wrote: Am I the only person who is a little bit surprised by how negative the community is towards one player? I know IdrA is very outspoken on balance and how he feels Protoss is hugely overpowered versus Zerg, but is that really a good enough excuse for all the negative comments he receives? IEM spoiler: + Show Spoiler + Only a few hours ago IdrA won IEM, and in that time there has been so much de-legitimising of his series against Puma. People don't seem to recognise just how phenomenaly he played and think that Puma cannot be outplayed and every mistake he made was part of his plan to throw the series. Noticeably on the 'best foreigner poll' thread and that hilarious conspiracy theory thread that the now banned Spasticated made. I want to hear from those who think he is a bad player exactly why they think so. Because I personally think he is a fantastic player, who has a matchup lagging significantly behind the other two. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if they think he is overrated that is fine of course, but denying the fact that he is a top foreigner is a bit silly imo. Umm, i think most people are happy to see IdrA win and you are taking some trolls way too seriously..... | ||
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Hetz
196 Posts
Besides, since the last patch, I heard zerg win rates vs protoss are dropping at an amazing rate. | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
the reason he gets so much hate is because he is so emotionally and yet so good | ||
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Capook
United States122 Posts
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On October 04 2011 21:41 Hetz wrote: Idra is a great player. Protoss indeed is way to easy being way too strong. The effort put into vs the reward, thats what he is trying to say, and he is totally right. Besides, since the last patch, I heard zerg win rates vs protoss are dropping at an amazing rate. I don't know what you heard, exactly. This is a catastrophically idiotic post claiming something that is not only completely irrelevant but also straight-up moronic. "way to easy being way too strong"? You mean like PuMa's favourite build that no Protoss can hold? | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
On October 04 2011 21:33 HystericaLaughter wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=268904 Look at the poll for 'who doesnt deserve to be on this list' http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=271737 This is a little ridiculous but it does show what I'm talking about the thread (your 2. link) is awful and means nothing, the poll whatsoever is legit. is IdrA skilled? yes. are other people skilled too? yes. now it comes to personal preferences, but they dont count for shit, results do. It`s a poll - nothing more. If people think he is overrated, it is just that and has nothing to do with hate. there may be some people, who have strong feelings against him, but those people probably have been insulted by IdrA in the first place. | ||
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Benzzro
Australia167 Posts
On October 04 2011 21:41 Hetz wrote: Idra is a great player. Protoss indeed is way to easy being way too strong. The effort put into vs the reward, thats what he is trying to say, and he is totally right. Besides, since the last patch, I heard zerg win rates vs protoss are dropping at an amazing rate. Yes that's clearly shown in the GSL and all, another sheep that sits on Idra's lap | ||
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Ucs
264 Posts
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Phenrock
United Kingdom132 Posts
There will always be haters on the internet, whether it's down to it being cool, jealousy, just trolling for laughs. When someone has a rather large fanbase, they'll get a lot of attention from them. I don't see why you need to understand this.... | ||
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JayJay_90
Germany1632 Posts
This may contain IEM spoilers. + Show Spoiler + I didn't see any of Idra's games at IEM except for the final so I can't comment on his game vs. Puma or any other series. On the best foreigner at the moment poll: His results in the last couple of months before this IEM simply did not justify to put him up there, nor did the way he played in that time. He was still a good player but nowhere near the best foreigner. This one event is not suddenly gonna make him the best, but he probably earned his spot in the list. We've got to see if he can be consistent from now on though. He even looked unstable in the groupstage of IEM and only started to really perform well in the RO8. I'm not an Idra fanboy, nor am I a hater. I do like how he's not afraid to give his honest opinion. That's a great character trait imo. I don't like his attitude towards balance (whining about zerg being so weak especially vs. toss when other players don't seem to have a problem in that matchup and toss is considered to be the weakest race). Saying stuff like "Zerg is not supposed to win" is just stupid. I'm not really sure if there's that much Idra hate as you think or if you just take every negative or just objective statement about him as "hating". I'm neutral towards Idra as a player and I acknowledge his skill, but I don't like fanatic fanboys, that's why sometimes it's nice to see him lose, just to not have to bear with 20 pages of unjustified hyping. | ||
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