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ePdeLay
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia220 Posts
October 04 2011 12:30 GMT
#21
lets face it...everybody gets pissed off when they lose to players that are clearly worse. Idra is a very talented player, mechanics ftw
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
October 04 2011 12:30 GMT
#22
I'm just sick of the special treatment and attention this guy gets.

He won a tournament, good for him, now stop making pointless threads about it.
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
October 04 2011 12:31 GMT
#23
I didn't post anything anti-IdrA but personally I don't root for him because his play is boring to me, and he uses too much of his mechanical ability into passive play. Also, he seems to be a hard player to support because he is so self-destructive and psychologically quite weak when compared to other highly competitive players. Notably, as well, he is an EG player and I detest EG's values or lack thereof, although DeMusliM is such a nice guy and exciting player that I can't help but be a fanboy :p
Betrayed by EG.BuK
gatorling
Profile Joined December 2010
United States30 Posts
October 04 2011 12:32 GMT
#24
Idra is a fantastic, amazing Zerg player.
He however, is a bad sportsman, is abrasive and completely incapable of admitting his own flaws.
Despite all that, he remains one of the most entertaining SC2 personalities and generates an amazing amount of buzz both in and out of the game.
What is?
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
October 04 2011 12:32 GMT
#25
out of all the progamers IdrA has (by far) the most fans, including many activists, who made it their personal assignment to attack everything thats anit-IdrA. #dontfightotherpeoplesbattles please. Personally I don`t see much hate towards IdrA, but arguments that disagree when it is stated he is the best foreigner/player etc. That how things are kept in balance.
keep it deep! @zulison
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 12:32:24
October 04 2011 12:32 GMT
#26
IEM spoiler
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Ofcourse Puma threw away the series! Who wouldn't want to see slasher bald!
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1603 Posts
October 04 2011 12:32 GMT
#27
On October 04 2011 21:16 HystericaLaughter wrote:
Am I the only person who is a little bit surprised by how negative the community is towards one player? I know IdrA is very outspoken on balance and how he feels Protoss is hugely overpowered versus Zerg, but is that really a good enough excuse for all the negative comments he receives?

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Only a few hours ago IdrA won IEM, and in that time there has been so much de-legitimising of his series against Puma. People don't seem to recognise just how phenomenaly he played and think that Puma cannot be outplayed and every mistake he made was part of his plan to throw the series. Noticeably on the 'best foreigner poll' thread and that hilarious conspiracy theory thread that the now banned Spasticated made.


I want to hear from those who think he is a bad player exactly why they think so. Because I personally think he is a fantastic player, who has a matchup lagging significantly behind the other two. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if they think he is overrated that is fine of course, but denying the fact that he is a top foreigner is a bit silly imo.


There are very few people who think that IdrA is a bad player. The people either love or hate his personality and then the flaming comes through in an attack on his play as well as his personality. This post seems useless since everyone already knows why people flame him and why people defend him.
Warzilla
Profile Joined December 2010
Czech Republic311 Posts
October 04 2011 12:32 GMT
#28
Hey what's up,

I feel the same exact way as you do.. However some of his flames feel just too much for me.. Even though he doesnt fall down in my heart. I often ask my-self , was it worth it idra ? (example, Minigun being called out "You didn't deserve to win" followed-up by "you're a fucker") and in that particular game idra was doing bad things with his army (like really bad running throughout storm with all of his zerglings and stuff) Even though i am a protoss player, i prefer idra's stream over the others because he is just SO good. I would say it is just that people don't like to evaluate player who is bad mannered. Incontrol once said "Well, Idra wanna be bad mannered and when you wanna be bad mannered you gotta be better than the others, and he is"
"AFTER LOST GAME - I usually run around in circles yelling "WHY OH GOD WHY" in my room, pointing towards the sky. After 5 to 10min ,i get tired and go back to playing"
Jesushooves
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada553 Posts
October 04 2011 12:33 GMT
#29
I'm looking at the last page of the idra fanclub, it's 20 people congratulating IdrA for his win, I don't think that is the definition of hate.
Lose its good, after will be win.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
October 04 2011 12:33 GMT
#30
i know right, everyone hates that guy! so bloody annoying, and he is such a loner! he only has the most visited fan club in TL history, gets 20,000 viewers when he streams and is an icon for the sport. In fact, he is the one that got me into starcraft when i watched his protip videos. Idra is a legend, and because a few people spam hate chat you think the whole community shares this opinion?
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HystericaLaughter
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia720 Posts
October 04 2011 12:33 GMT
#31
On October 04 2011 21:28 eYeball wrote:
Sorry but this thread is pretty horrible, should we discuss the idra hate? Can you show some few examples of it or something? I haven't really noticed the last couple days....


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=268904
Look at the poll for 'who doesnt deserve to be on this list'

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=271737
This is a little ridiculous but it does show what I'm talking about
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PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
October 04 2011 12:35 GMT
#32
people hate IdrA more because his fanbase are probably the most annoying people on TL. when he wins they say hes the best foreigner, even though he's clearly not and hasnt been since GSL 1, when he loses they say everything and their mothers is imbalanced.

IdrA is a player with like 3 championship wins in SC2, and yet hes better then people with a lot more success? sorry, no.

best foreigner goes to HuK, he's still in Code S. Arguably though, I think ThorZain is the best, hes absolutely amazing and miles ahead of IdrA
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andycz
Profile Joined September 2011
288 Posts
October 04 2011 12:35 GMT
#33
On October 04 2011 21:26 HystericaLaughter wrote:
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On October 04 2011 21:24 andycz wrote:
IdrA hate? What are you talking about, 85% people here are sucking his cock 24/7.


Oh heaps of people are fans of him I'm not denying that, but there has been a very sudden outburst of hatred towards him in the last few days that I have noticed, hence this post

crap you quoted me before i edited the potentially bannable phrase out.. lol
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antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
October 04 2011 12:35 GMT
#34
I just don't like his attitude towards the game or the players, no ammount of wins will make me chage my mind about it.But I do recognize he is a great player.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
October 04 2011 12:36 GMT
#35
On October 04 2011 21:30 ePdeLay wrote:
lets face it...everybody gets pissed off when they lose to players that are clearly worse. Idra is a very talented player, mechanics ftw


Yeah, but a lot of people have the class to not out and insult the player and rag on their skills for beating them. It's not about, "being honest and straight forward" or whatever else people like to use when referring to IdrA, it's about not being a complete asshole.

In a recent vlog, Grubby lost to someone who he said he should have been able to beat and said he was quite upset about it, not once did it seem like he was delegitimizing the other player's effort or saying he was bad. I'm not saying everyone needs to be that ultra-mannered, but if he's going to delegitimize other player's wins and call them bad, are people really wondering why others do the same to him?

Why don't I go and make another thread regarding IdrA's hatred of just about every other person that beats him and how he delegitimizes their wins. It's fucking stupid that anyone can be surprised that he gets a ton of shit, he dishes a massive amount out.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 12:37:22
October 04 2011 12:36 GMT
#36
Does it really matter, he is already aware of it. He has some of the most loyal fans of any player, and because he is popular, the haters are quick to jump on-board with their say. They are quick to judge his play, his current form and the way he plays, even if is quick to leave games they whine and bitch regardless. It is clear he is rediscovering his best play due to recent results, that is exciting to me. The haters will still judge him though, even if he is the best player in the world, that is just how he rolls.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 04 2011 12:36 GMT
#37
If you go around behaving like IdrA does, you're bound to make some haters, as well as loyal fans. Then it goes like this:

A few extreme haters start ragging on him.

Which triggers the extreme fanboys to shield him and rag on the haters.

Which in turn triggers less extreme haters to join in.

Then of course the standard fanboys join the fray.

......etc

You see how this works.
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mki
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Poland882 Posts
October 04 2011 12:37 GMT
#38
He has dissed much of the community in the past. As such there is a lot of hatred going his way. Regardless he still has a lot of fans. Not sure what your issue is here.

Like a user said before, he polarizes. But it's beyond me that someone is surprised that people hate or dislike IdrA.
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Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
October 04 2011 12:37 GMT
#39
On October 04 2011 21:28 darkscream wrote:
haters gonna hate


when you are as good as idra you can be very outspoken, caustic and blunt. most people dont like that, they want total douchebag mannerbear sponsor suckups. i personally do not like anyone who puts on a fake 'tv friendly' personality.





you may not realize this, but some people dont need to put on a "fake 'tv friendly' personality", they actually ARE friendly.
i believe your actions dishonour Starcraft 2 LotV cybersport!
Benzzro
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia167 Posts
October 04 2011 12:37 GMT
#40
On October 04 2011 21:26 HystericaLaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 21:24 andycz wrote:
IdrA hate? What are you talking about, 85% people here are sucking his cock 24/7.


Oh heaps of people are fans of him I'm not denying that, but there has been a very sudden outburst of hatred towards him in the last few days that I have noticed, hence this post


Oh shit people are hating on someone on the internetz, let's quickly write a thread about it.

I just headbutted the shit out of my palm
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