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Spasticated
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada20 Posts
October 04 2011 05:19 GMT
#1
Ok we all def know that this series was rigged.

Game 1: Puma played a passive style which he would normally NEVER do against a zerg player. He let those nydus tunnels finish when he couldve EASILY taken them out. He let his creep spread get way out of control, Ive seen diamond players control creep better than that.

Game 2: In this game it was so staged. What professional SC2 terran player who LOVES to drop, would let one single infestor get 40 kills on a mineral line from the same spot over and over? If Puma really wanted to win he couldve a-moved so many times and done it. There were times when his vikings couldve killed a lot more broodlords than they did but he played it suspiciously safe. Puma moved out of his base and couldve easily done a crazy timing push but he moved back to clearly a tiny handfull of mutas, only to help greg get back into the game.

Game 3: To start off game 3 he blatantly put his hellions on hold positions so greg could snipe them. How could a pro player not make a complete a wall off on a natural. He slipped a little crack for the grack. The onyl reason idra won was cause of a lucky baneling bomb. If you notice his APM dropped to 0 during the battle, so he didnt even split his marines.

In the end its all about money and business. Idra has such a larger fanbase that him being able to win a tournament would generate more sponsor revenue for EG. Any real sc2 player could've seen the deliberate flaws in Puma's play. I wouldnt expect many of you silver league fanboys of Idra's to understand jsut how blatantly obvious this was staged.


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Hazuc
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada471 Posts
October 04 2011 05:20 GMT
#2
Lock plz.

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T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
October 04 2011 05:21 GMT
#3
Go shit on players and teams more? Sigh.
Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 05:21:43
October 04 2011 05:21 GMT
#4
You're a shit for brains idiot. Knowing how hard PuMa practices there is no way that he would ever through a series. He and JYP even confidently said "whomever wins our series will win the tournament".

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[QUOTE][B]On October 16 2011 13:00 Anihc wrote:[/B] No, you're the one who's wrong. Nothingtosay got it right.[/QUOTE]:3
aznagent
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong166 Posts
October 04 2011 05:21 GMT
#5
Metagame
Quote:
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
October 04 2011 05:21 GMT
#6
I did not watch the games, but if is the case I really lost a ton of respect of the legitimacy of E-Sports and the Evil Genesis organization in general.
Whatever happens, happens
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 05:22:13
October 04 2011 05:21 GMT
#7
With what happened in the whole sAviOr scandal, do you really think a Korean player would ever consider throwing a game?
"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
October 04 2011 05:21 GMT
#8
Without proof/evidence, thats a pretty disgusting accusation
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 04 2011 05:21 GMT
#9
On October 04 2011 14:21 Son of Gnome wrote:
I did not watch the games, but if is the case I really lost a ton of respect of the legitimacy of E-Sports and the Evil Genesis organization in general.

Some dude mad/trolling, no evidence at all.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
October 04 2011 05:22 GMT
#10
I wish I could have reported this... :[
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tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
October 04 2011 05:22 GMT
#11
To put it straight, you're terrible at analyzing games. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to defend IdrA or "foreigners" or whatever, you're just really bad at analyzing games.
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 05:24:07
October 04 2011 05:23 GMT
#12
I like the preemptive insult at the end basically saying: "if you disagree with me you are a silver league fanboy of idra and aren't a real sc2 player" . When the thread title is "does anyone else agree?" lol
tomatofish
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada8 Posts
October 04 2011 05:23 GMT
#13
Do you kids have anything better to do than hate on a good player like Idra? He played legit games, back that ass up and think about what you're saying before you post.
lilodot
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States32 Posts
October 04 2011 05:23 GMT
#14
successful troll was successful

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Intelligence is the new minority
RajaF
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada530 Posts
October 04 2011 05:23 GMT
#15
On October 04 2011 14:21 Son of Gnome wrote:
I did not watch the games, but if is the case I really lost a ton of respect of the legitimacy of E-Sports and the Evil Genesis organization in general.


This is not the case. The OP just has no clue about this game, that is all.
LordCOTA
Profile Joined February 2011
United States29 Posts
October 04 2011 05:23 GMT
#16
On October 04 2011 14:21 caradoc wrote:
Without proof/evidence, thats a pretty disgusting accusation

Pretty much exactly this. What is with this thread? Not even for a teammate, would PuMa even CONSIDER doing that.
cHicKeLoR
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany559 Posts
October 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#17
lol...

close plz


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Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
October 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#18
On October 04 2011 14:21 Son of Gnome wrote:
I did not watch the games, but if is the case I really lost a ton of respect of the legitimacy of E-Sports and the Evil Genesis organization in general.

Evil Genesis rofl
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#19
This is going too far. This is just baseless accusations and actively looking for a conspiracy theory. All of the reasons you have stated is based on the fact that you think Puma's TvZ is godly. It isn't, and it hasn't been for a long while.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#20
I kinda agree. If they were not on the same team I'd probably look the other way and figure Puma had a bad day or something.

But they are on the same team and it looked like Puma let Idra beat him.
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