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Ok we all def know that this series was rigged.
Game 1: Puma played a passive style which he would normally NEVER do against a zerg player. He let those nydus tunnels finish when he couldve EASILY taken them out. He let his creep spread get way out of control, Ive seen diamond players control creep better than that.
Game 2: In this game it was so staged. What professional SC2 terran player who LOVES to drop, would let one single infestor get 40 kills on a mineral line from the same spot over and over? If Puma really wanted to win he couldve a-moved so many times and done it. There were times when his vikings couldve killed a lot more broodlords than they did but he played it suspiciously safe. Puma moved out of his base and couldve easily done a crazy timing push but he moved back to clearly a tiny handfull of mutas, only to help greg get back into the game.
Game 3: To start off game 3 he blatantly put his hellions on hold positions so greg could snipe them. How could a pro player not make a complete a wall off on a natural. He slipped a little crack for the grack. The onyl reason idra won was cause of a lucky baneling bomb. If you notice his APM dropped to 0 during the battle, so he didnt even split his marines.
In the end its all about money and business. Idra has such a larger fanbase that him being able to win a tournament would generate more sponsor revenue for EG. Any real sc2 player could've seen the deliberate flaws in Puma's play. I wouldnt expect many of you silver league fanboys of Idra's to understand jsut how blatantly obvious this was staged.
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Lock plz.
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Go shit on players and teams more? Sigh.
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You're a shit for brains idiot. Knowing how hard PuMa practices there is no way that he would ever through a series. He and JYP even confidently said "whomever wins our series will win the tournament".
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I did not watch the games, but if is the case I really lost a ton of respect of the legitimacy of E-Sports and the Evil Genesis organization in general.
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With what happened in the whole sAviOr scandal, do you really think a Korean player would ever consider throwing a game?
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Without proof/evidence, thats a pretty disgusting accusation
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On October 04 2011 14:21 Son of Gnome wrote:
I did not watch the games, but if is the case I really lost a ton of respect of the legitimacy of E-Sports and the Evil Genesis organization in general.
Some dude mad/trolling, no evidence at all.
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I wish I could have reported this... :[
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To put it straight, you're terrible at analyzing games. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to defend IdrA or "foreigners" or whatever, you're just really bad at analyzing games.
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I like the preemptive insult at the end basically saying: "if you disagree with me you are a silver league fanboy of idra and aren't a real sc2 player" . When the thread title is "does anyone else agree?" lol
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Do you kids have anything better to do than hate on a good player like Idra? He played legit games, back that ass up and think about what you're saying before you post.
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successful troll was successful
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On October 04 2011 14:21 Son of Gnome wrote:
I did not watch the games, but if is the case I really lost a ton of respect of the legitimacy of E-Sports and the Evil Genesis organization in general.
This is not the case. The OP just has no clue about this game, that is all.
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On October 04 2011 14:21 caradoc wrote:
Without proof/evidence, thats a pretty disgusting accusation
Pretty much exactly this. What is with this thread? Not even for a teammate, would PuMa even CONSIDER doing that.
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lol...
close plz
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On October 04 2011 14:21 Son of Gnome wrote:
I did not watch the games, but if is the case I really lost a ton of respect of the legitimacy of E-Sports and the Evil Genesis organization in general.
Evil Genesis rofl
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This is going too far. This is just baseless accusations and actively looking for a conspiracy theory. All of the reasons you have stated is based on the fact that you think Puma's TvZ is godly. It isn't, and it hasn't been for a long while.
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I kinda agree. If they were not on the same team I'd probably look the other way and figure Puma had a bad day or something.
But they are on the same team and it looked like Puma let Idra beat him.
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Well it depends, was this a game that didn't hurt Puma to lose? If so I could see a teammate deal happening.
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Strangely, i agree. It is clear that most of the things that took place in this series were staged. Mainly, how is it that a top tier player such a Puma, would let a single infestor, single handedly win the game for idra? It is clear that Puma was letting idra get back into all of these games in every discreet way he could. Everyone on this planet knows that idras weak spot is cheese, why would puma not cheese ONCE not ONCE in all 3 games? this makes me sick to see that e-sports has come down to a similar situation as we have it in pro-sports such as football. I know that starcraft 2 is not a sport but still it is disgusting to see.
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Game1 .... he let those nydus tunnels finish? he was stiming and killing them as quickly as possible.
Game2 he was low on minerals and units and could barely hold the expansion. one infestor was the least of his problems. people make mistakes.
Game 3 even if puma had gone marineking in that battle and done insanely well he was still soooooo far behind that it wouldnt have even mattered.
please go.
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On October 04 2011 14:25 Spasticated wrote:
Strangely, i agree. It is clear that most of the things that took place in this series were staged. Mainly, how is it that a top tier player such a Puma, would let a single infestor, single handedly win the game for idra? It is clear that Puma was letting idra get back into all of these games in every discreet way he could. Everyone on this planet knows that idras weak spot is cheese, why would puma not cheese ONCE not ONCE in all 3 games? this makes me sick to see that e-sports has come down to a similar situation as we have it in pro-sports such as football. I know that starcraft 2 is not a sport but still it is disgusting to see.
Forgot to switch accounts?
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On October 04 2011 14:25 Spasticated wrote:
Strangely, i agree. It is clear that most of the things that took place in this series were staged. Mainly, how is it that a top tier player such a Puma, would let a single infestor, single handedly win the game for idra? It is clear that Puma was letting idra get back into all of these games in every discreet way he could. Everyone on this planet knows that idras weak spot is cheese, why would puma not cheese ONCE not ONCE in all 3 games? this makes me sick to see that e-sports has come down to a similar situation as we have it in pro-sports such as football. I know that starcraft 2 is not a sport but still it is disgusting to see.
Wait, you're agreeing with yourself now? lol
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game 3 he was still building his wall with supply depots.........stop stirring shit
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Nice job covering your bases at the end. I was going to post that I didn't watch the games but considering punishments, this is incredibly unlikely, but I suppose I'm just a blind Idra fanboy and my league dropped to silver when I wasn't watching.
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so if you were PuMa you give up a chance at 6500$ just like that. Cuz you know, he's filthy rich, 6500 is jusy cofffee money for him 
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why cant i agree with what was speculated ? he made a gracken point
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On October 04 2011 14:25 caradoc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 14:25 Spasticated wrote:
Strangely, i agree. It is clear that most of the things that took place in this series were staged. Mainly, how is it that a top tier player such a Puma, would let a single infestor, single handedly win the game for idra? It is clear that Puma was letting idra get back into all of these games in every discreet way he could. Everyone on this planet knows that idras weak spot is cheese, why would puma not cheese ONCE not ONCE in all 3 games? this makes me sick to see that e-sports has come down to a similar situation as we have it in pro-sports such as football. I know that starcraft 2 is not a sport but still it is disgusting to see. Forgot to switch accounts?
This just gets better and better.
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On October 04 2011 14:25 caradoc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 14:25 Spasticated wrote:
Strangely, i agree. It is clear that most of the things that took place in this series were staged. Mainly, how is it that a top tier player such a Puma, would let a single infestor, single handedly win the game for idra? It is clear that Puma was letting idra get back into all of these games in every discreet way he could. Everyone on this planet knows that idras weak spot is cheese, why would puma not cheese ONCE not ONCE in all 3 games? this makes me sick to see that e-sports has come down to a similar situation as we have it in pro-sports such as football. I know that starcraft 2 is not a sport but still it is disgusting to see. Forgot to switch accounts?
lol
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