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[IEM SPOILER] Oh the IdrA hate...

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HystericaLaughter
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia720 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 12:23:59
October 04 2011 12:16 GMT
#1
Am I the only person who is a little bit surprised by how negative the community is towards one player? I know IdrA is very outspoken on balance and how he feels Protoss is hugely overpowered versus Zerg, but is that really a good enough excuse for all the negative comments he receives?

IEM spoiler:
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Only a few hours ago IdrA won IEM, and in that time there has been so much de-legitimising of his series against Puma. People don't seem to recognise just how phenomenaly he played and think that Puma cannot be outplayed and every mistake he made was part of his plan to throw the series. Noticeably on the 'best foreigner poll' thread and that hilarious conspiracy theory thread that the now banned Spasticated made.


I want to hear from those who think he is a bad player exactly why they think so. Because I personally think he is a fantastic player, who has a matchup lagging significantly behind the other two. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if they think he is overrated that is fine of course, but denying the fact that he is a top foreigner is a bit silly imo.
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Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
October 04 2011 12:18 GMT
#2
Hmm Spoiler alert?
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
October 04 2011 12:19 GMT
#3
Spoiler or have a mod close this...way too soon.
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jazzminkey
Profile Joined December 2010
United States53 Posts
October 04 2011 12:21 GMT
#4
On October 04 2011 21:16 HystericaLaughter wrote:
EG fighting! Fanboy of: Idra


I think he would be a lot better of a player if he didn't prematurely leave games so often. Perhaps that is more of a personality issue.
HystericaLaughter
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia720 Posts
October 04 2011 12:22 GMT
#5
Sorry spoiler added
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andycz
Profile Joined September 2011
288 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 12:25:22
October 04 2011 12:24 GMT
#6
IdrA hate? What are you talking about, 85% people here go "zomg idra teh best foreigner" 24/7.
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pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 12:29:08
October 04 2011 12:25 GMT
#7
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220441

Idra always complaining about balance and bming is something, this is different.

Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
October 04 2011 12:25 GMT
#8
His fanclub has only 1200pages, why does noone like him?

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HystericaLaughter
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia720 Posts
October 04 2011 12:26 GMT
#9
On October 04 2011 21:24 andycz wrote:
IdrA hate? What are you talking about, 85% people here are sucking his cock 24/7.


Oh heaps of people are fans of him I'm not denying that, but there has been a very sudden outburst of hatred towards him in the last few days that I have noticed, hence this post
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svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
October 04 2011 12:26 GMT
#10
He's a bad mannered egomaniac and you're surprised people don't like him?

Now that he has some results (I'm not counting IPL season 1 as "results") maybe he can afford a bit more to act the way he does.

However, a win is a win, and people shouldn't be taking away from that. Congrats to Idra.
ithildin
Profile Joined June 2011
United States9 Posts
October 04 2011 12:27 GMT
#11
I don't think people think IdrA is a bad player. He's clearly excellent. Fans' problem with IdrA is how bad mannered he is.

He says things that are disrespectful to other players and he is a bad winner AND a bad loser.

It's not a wonder that people don't like that. In almost any competition respect for the other players is the norm. Even in sports like boxing or sprinting where there is all sorts of ridiculous posturing before the event, afterwards the players are respectful and congratulate each other. IdrA's inability to gg or shake hands when an inferior player upsets him is just sad.

And making excuses for most losses is just annoying.
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 12:28:51
October 04 2011 12:27 GMT
#12
Well, I can't speak for others but, as what you might call an IdrA hater I can't stand him. He's complaining way to much, which eggs on his legion of fans to bring up non-issues. He's a poor loser (to say the least), a pretty bad winner and his fighting spirit is horrible.

He IS a very good zerg, I know that. But I will forever root for the opposing player until IdrA learns how to be a winner and not just a "solid macro zerg". Cheese once in a while god damn it, something different. :/
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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
October 04 2011 12:28 GMT
#13
Sorry but this thread is pretty horrible, should we discuss the idra hate? Can you show some few examples of it or something? I haven't really noticed the last couple days....
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darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
October 04 2011 12:28 GMT
#14
haters gonna hate


when you are as good as idra you can be very outspoken, caustic and blunt. most people dont like that, they want total douchebag mannerbear sponsor suckups. i personally do not like anyone who puts on a fake 'tv friendly' personality.



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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
October 04 2011 12:28 GMT
#15
there's good reason for people not to like him. it's actually a big part of his fame or infamy depending on how you view him.
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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
October 04 2011 12:28 GMT
#16
A player who is incredibly negative towards others is bound to get negativity back. He regularly trash talks, bad manners and otherwise insults other players. These players have fans themselves and you basically end up with fans of other players getting sick and tired of him undermining their favorite player's skill level.

He gets a ton of hate because he dishes a ton out, it's nothing surprising.
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 12:30:26
October 04 2011 12:29 GMT
#17
On October 04 2011 21:28 darkscream wrote:
haters gonna hate
when you are as good as idra you can be very outspoken, caustic and blunt. most people dont like that, they want total douchebag mannerbear sponsor suckups. i personally do not like anyone who puts on a fake 'tv friendly' personality.

If you're an incontrol fan / Destiny hater I'm going to laugh my ass off
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blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
October 04 2011 12:29 GMT
#18
To be honest, it's more about the Foreigner/Korea conflict rather than Idra. A lot of ppl like to de-legitimise any match where a korean beats a foreigner, finding any excuse possible. On the flip side, other people think over-legitimise the win, if tht makes sense. Also, Idra has a ton of stupid fanboys, and a ton of stupid haters.
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
October 04 2011 12:30 GMT
#19
On October 04 2011 21:25 Malinor wrote:
His fanclub has only 1200pages, why does noone like him?


Half of those 1200 pages are filled with flaming him and other random stuff.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
October 04 2011 12:30 GMT
#20
Idra polarizes. His haters are annoying, but his mindless fanboys are equally so. I mean for heaven's sake, someone in the LR thread said he was the Michael Jordan of Sc2.

Do you really need to hear reasons as to why people might dislike Idra? Anyone who rages and insults opponents as much as he does is going to have people who dislike him. Whether this stuff bothers you is for you to decide, but it's not all that difficult to fathomwhere the hate comes from.
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