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[Poll] Best Foreigner?

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DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 01:43:47
September 24 2011 15:46 GMT
#1
Thank you for 2,500 votes and 30 pages. Did not expect this thread to be that active. Dont bash any players, discuss the facts.

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Who is in your opinion the best foreigner (non chinese, if that would make a difference) at the moment?

To answer that question, I listed 12 players that come into my mind for this title in no particular order - vote for whoever you think deserves that unofficial title.




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The Poll(s):

Poll: Who is the best foreigner?

HuK (1884)
 
26%

ThorZaiN (1686)
 
23%

Stephano (990)
 
14%

Sen (870)
 
12%

IdrA (669)
 
9%

Dimaga (240)
 
3%

NaNiWa (220)
 
3%

SeleCt (184)
 
3%

MaNa (150)
 
2%

Ret (150)
 
2%

SaSe (119)
 
2%

Kas (39)
 
1%

7201 total votes

Your vote: Who is the best foreigner?

(Vote): Sen
(Vote): HuK
(Vote): IdrA
(Vote): SeleCt
(Vote): NaNiWa
(Vote): ThorZaiN
(Vote): SaSe
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): MaNa
(Vote): Dimaga
(Vote): Kas
(Vote): Ret





Who doesn't deserve to even be on that list?
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Poll: Who doesn't deserve to even be on that list?

IdrA (928)
 
43%

Kas (524)
 
24%

Stephano (162)
 
7%

SaSe (160)
 
7%

MaNa (99)
 
5%

Ret (74)
 
3%

ThorZaiN (69)
 
3%

SeleCt (54)
 
2%

Dimaga (34)
 
2%

HuK (32)
 
1%

Sen (24)
 
1%

NaNiWa (22)
 
1%

2182 total votes

Your vote: Who doesn't deserve to even be on that list?

(Vote): Sen
(Vote): HuK
(Vote): IdrA
(Vote): SeleCt
(Vote): NaNiWa
(Vote): ThorZaiN
(Vote): SaSe
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): MaNa
(Vote): Dimaga
(Vote): Kas
(Vote): Ret



Who do you miss in the list? (if other: use the Thread)
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Poll: Who do you miss in the list?

White-Ra (805)
 
38%

DeMusliM (405)
 
19%

Nerchio (246)
 
12%

Jinro (115)
 
5%

Kiwikaki (102)
 
5%

MorroW (98)
 
5%

Major (88)
 
4%

Sheth (75)
 
4%

Fenix (73)
 
3%

SjoW (59)
 
3%

Strelok (29)
 
1%

BratOK (24)
 
1%

2119 total votes

Your vote: Who do you miss in the list?

(Vote): Sheth
(Vote): Kiwikaki
(Vote): Major
(Vote): Fenix
(Vote): White-Ra
(Vote): Nerchio
(Vote): Strelok
(Vote): SjoW
(Vote): DeMusliM
(Vote): Jinro
(Vote): MorroW
(Vote): BratOK




European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
PirateEd
Profile Joined June 2011
United States61 Posts
September 24 2011 15:49 GMT
#2
I think Whitera and Morrow definitely deserve to be on this list more than Mana, Kas, or Sase
Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
September 24 2011 15:51 GMT
#3
HuK since he by far is the most accomplished. Id say Thorzain is up there, his preformance is the DH invitation was stellar, goin toe to toe with the best ZvTer in the world (he said that TvZ is his worst MU.)
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 24 2011 15:51 GMT
#4
I haven't been up to date with Stephano lately but what has he done against Koreans? The only thing I think I can remember is him getting crushed by MC at HSC
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
September 24 2011 15:52 GMT
#5
in terms of potential and current skill i'd go with stephano and mana
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 24 2011 15:52 GMT
#6
It's Huk until another foreigner can get into Code S.

Thorzain right behind Huk. Stephano could have the overall best talent/form out of any foreigner, but he needs accomplishments at a MLG at least.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
September 24 2011 15:53 GMT
#7
On September 25 2011 00:51 Denzil wrote:
I haven't been up to date with Stephano lately but what has he done against Koreans? The only thing I think I can remember is him getting crushed by MC at HSC


Facerolling through IPL qualifiers, stomping marineking, mma, puzzle, revival etc
Dominico
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada678 Posts
September 24 2011 15:53 GMT
#8
On September 25 2011 00:51 Denzil wrote:
I haven't been up to date with Stephano lately but what has he done against Koreans? The only thing I think I can remember is him getting crushed by MC at HSC

He beat a few in the IPL qualifier, i didn't watch, but i remember him beating MMA 2-0, or 2-1.
DeepBlu2
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States975 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 15:55:08
September 24 2011 15:54 GMT
#9
Thorzain I think is the best. There are some players on that list who are amazing and better than everyone when they are motivated, which I would have to put Ret and Dimaga on that list. I don't think Idra is on the top. In terms of skill, yeah he is, but him expressing his disappointment in the game from a design and balance standpoint, which results in him leaving games early, and not trying in some games, causes him to under perform.
u gotta sk8
-MoOsE-
Profile Joined March 2011
United States236 Posts
September 24 2011 15:54 GMT
#10
On September 25 2011 00:49 PirateEd wrote:
I think Whitera and Morrow definitely deserve to be on this list more than Mana, Kas, or Sase



I feel like white-ra is the best but he is not on the list
The King in the North Fighting
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
September 24 2011 15:55 GMT
#11
Sen/Huk imo.
iblink
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands36 Posts
September 24 2011 15:55 GMT
#12
why is idra in that list?

sen first then huk!
just do it
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
September 24 2011 15:55 GMT
#13
I think Slush is missing, Stephano is undeserving.

For the best I voted Huk with a heavy heart, I do believe Naniwa is the next great foreigner hope.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
September 24 2011 15:55 GMT
#14
Well the problem is, that white-ra and morrow would get steamrolled by mana or kas :/ just my opinion, its hard to find 12 players that satisfy all and its not possible to put more into a poll than 12.

Thats why i added those other 2 polls
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
September 24 2011 15:56 GMT
#15
On September 25 2011 00:55 iblink wrote:
why is idra in that list?

sen first then huk!


because kas is in that list ?
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
September 24 2011 15:56 GMT
#16
i think Stephano is really strong atm, but lets wait till IPL/MLG, cause we didnt see him offline the last few weeks (or even months)

without the Stephano variable, I would give ThorZain a slight edge over HuK, just because of the DH Valencia results.

I dont think IdrA is in the top 5 atm.
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
September 24 2011 15:56 GMT
#17
On September 25 2011 00:53 skrotcyk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 00:51 Denzil wrote:
I haven't been up to date with Stephano lately but what has he done against Koreans? The only thing I think I can remember is him getting crushed by MC at HSC


Facerolling through IPL qualifiers, stomping marineking, mma, puzzle, revival etc

Which is online events. Boxer, MC, and a bunch of other Koreans got crushed many times too.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 24 2011 15:56 GMT
#18
On September 25 2011 00:49 PirateEd wrote:
I think Whitera and Morrow definitely deserve to be on this list more than Mana, Kas, or Sase


Mana has what appears to be the best PvT in the world
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 24 2011 15:56 GMT
#19
On September 25 2011 00:53 skrotcyk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 00:51 Denzil wrote:
I haven't been up to date with Stephano lately but what has he done against Koreans? The only thing I think I can remember is him getting crushed by MC at HSC


Facerolling through IPL qualifiers, stomping marineking, mma, puzzle, revival etc


IPL qualifiers aren't LAN. Results v Koreans online really don't hold as much truth as you'd like to think.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Lunas
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
September 24 2011 15:56 GMT
#20
MaNa don't get any love you guys nutz? MaNa by fare
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