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Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
September 24 2011 16:08 GMT
#61
On September 25 2011 00:56 TheBanana wrote:
I don't think Select should be on the list of best foreigners since he's korean.

IMO Thorzain is the best, and Nerchio the best of the ones not on the list.

Select doesn't train in Korea, he should be on this list (by this logic you can say Huk(possibly idra) shouldn't be I'll agree but that conversation has been had).
[QUOTE][B]On October 16 2011 13:00 Anihc wrote:[/B] No, you're the one who's wrong. Nothingtosay got it right.[/QUOTE]:3
GodBlessbeNz
Profile Joined September 2011
France43 Posts
September 24 2011 16:08 GMT
#62
I do not want to be rude but I can't understand why SaSe is in this list. I think that White-Ra deserves to be in this poll more than SaSe.
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
September 24 2011 16:08 GMT
#63
I voted for Thorzain but I think (and hope!) I will be able to call Stephano the best foreigner soon, I just love the way he plays.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
pezit
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden302 Posts
September 24 2011 16:09 GMT
#64
SeleCt is from the master race therefore he gets my vote. He has also been playing really good lately, winning the american blizz qualifier and wrecking in his code-a game.
DestinedOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada84 Posts
September 24 2011 16:09 GMT
#65
I think on his best day HuK for sure. I'm sad he's traveling so much these days, although he must be having the time of his life :D
PopcornColonel
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
September 24 2011 16:10 GMT
#66
On September 25 2011 00:55 iblink wrote:
why is idra in that list?

sen first then huk!

Because Idra is a really good player and crowd favorite. He just hasn't been doing well as of late.

My vote goes to huk ^^ I dislike thorZain
Zerg delenda est.
Dominico
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada678 Posts
September 24 2011 16:10 GMT
#67
Huk is the obvious choice..but aside from huk i'd say stephano and mana are the best.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
September 24 2011 16:11 GMT
#68
On September 25 2011 01:08 Nothingtosay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 00:56 TheBanana wrote:
I don't think Select should be on the list of best foreigners since he's korean.

IMO Thorzain is the best, and Nerchio the best of the ones not on the list.

Select doesn't train in Korea, he should be on this list (by this logic you can say Huk(possibly idra) shouldn't be I'll agree but that conversation has been had).


You do realize he is currently in Korea in Code A right? I believe he's a foreigner in HuK's right but still lol.
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Xomia
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany16 Posts
September 24 2011 16:12 GMT
#69
Huk is recently not delivering so good results. I think Thorzain has become pretty good. So my vote for Thorzain!
SRBNikola
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Serbia191 Posts
September 24 2011 16:12 GMT
#70
On September 25 2011 01:04 Hazuc wrote:
Thorzain for T
Huk for P
IdrA for Z

Can't believe people voted for Stephano. He hasn't prove himself yet.


Proof? He is classes above IdrA, he is roflstomping best korean TvZ players, so seriously...u can have opinion that IdrA is best but saying something like that for such a talent and person that PROVEN himself in last 2 months is stupid.
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
September 24 2011 16:13 GMT
#71
wheres Socke?
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
September 24 2011 16:13 GMT
#72
Sase deserves more votes. I wouldn't say that he is the best but he is absolutely ahead of Idra at least.
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 16:14:15
September 24 2011 16:13 GMT
#73
On September 25 2011 01:06 TheBanana wrote:

ZvZ: Dimaga
ZvT: Stephano
ZvP: Nerchio
TvP: Thorzain
TvT: SjoW (It used to be, not sure now)
TvZ: Thorzain
PvP: Huk/Naniwa
PvT: Mana
PvZ: Huk


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Clank
Profile Joined April 2011
United States548 Posts
September 24 2011 16:13 GMT
#74
On September 25 2011 01:00 iky43210 wrote:
That not a Taiwan flag under sen?

what the heck is it?


Chinese Taipei, Its basically Taiwan's flag for the olympics and such.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 24 2011 16:14 GMT
#75
On September 25 2011 01:06 TheBanana wrote:

ZvZ: Nerchio
ZvT: Stephano
ZvP: Nerchio
TvP: Thorzain
TvT: SjoW (It used to be, not sure now)
TvZ: Thorzain
PvP: Huk/Naniwa
PvT: Mana
PvZ: Huk


Agree, the only matchups I'm not that sure about are TvT and PvZ, it's really hard to say who's the best there.

As for the poll, I voted Thorzain as best, IdrA as not belonging on the list and Nerchio as most deserving to be on the list, as evidenced by the fact that I'd give him the title of best Zerg in two of three matchups.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 24 2011 16:14 GMT
#76
ThorZaIN and Huk are the ones who have consistently shown good results vs Koreans
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 24 2011 16:14 GMT
#77
Well..If you just look at results it's Huk.

However, looking at how the player actually plays the game: Sen, Thorzain, or on rare occasions Ret. Huk is just so hit or miss, I never get the feeling that the guy is truly that solid. Leaning more towards Thorzain at the moment.

I cannot understand how Idra is even considered. Couple of months ago, yeah sure he'd of topped many lists. Recently, however, I don't even think he's top 10.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
September 24 2011 16:14 GMT
#78
On September 25 2011 01:12 LionKiNG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:04 Hazuc wrote:
Thorzain for T
Huk for P
IdrA for Z

Can't believe people voted for Stephano. He hasn't prove himself yet.


Proof? He is classes above IdrA, he is roflstomping best korean TvZ players, so seriously...u can have opinion that IdrA is best but saying something like that for such a talent and person that PROVEN himself in last 2 months is stupid.


In online tournaments. All sorts of weird and wonderful things happen in online tournaments which don't happen at LAN's.

Stephano still needs to prove himself at a Dreamhack or MLG like Huk did.
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
September 24 2011 16:15 GMT
#79
On September 25 2011 01:14 hugman wrote:
ThorZaIN and Huk are the ones who have consistently shown good results vs Koreans


Thorzain's win ratio vs Koreans is not good.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 16:19:19
September 24 2011 16:15 GMT
#80
On September 25 2011 01:08 Nothingtosay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 00:56 TheBanana wrote:
I don't think Select should be on the list of best foreigners since he's korean.

IMO Thorzain is the best, and Nerchio the best of the ones not on the list.

Select doesn't train in Korea, he should be on this list (by this logic you can say Huk(possibly idra) shouldn't be I'll agree but that conversation has been had).


I don't think it's that hard.
In the starcraft-world "foreign" = non-korean.
Select is Korean, borned and raised.

If the poll said, "best foreign-trained", "best in the foreign scene" or something like that I'd agree with you.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
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