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[Poll] Best Foreigner? - Page 6

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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
September 24 2011 16:23 GMT
#101
On September 25 2011 01:22 Lunas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:15 Denzil wrote:
On September 25 2011 01:12 LionKiNG wrote:
On September 25 2011 01:04 Hazuc wrote:
Thorzain for T
Huk for P
IdrA for Z

Can't believe people voted for Stephano. He hasn't prove himself yet.


Proof? He is classes above IdrA, he is roflstomping best korean TvZ players, so seriously...u can have opinion that IdrA is best but saying something like that for such a talent and person that PROVEN himself in last 2 months is stupid.


For real? Online?

When will people get it in their head that playing against Koreans online holds little to no truth what so ever? Take TSL for an example. How many people beat Koreans in there? Then using your logic those Foreigners > Koreans

Look at the past 3 / 4 months, how many foreigners have beat Koreans at Lans? Not as many as the TSL results would have you thinking.

I have nothing against Stephano I think though that people give him too much credit, he will be the future of Zerg but he isn't just yet for a reason because he's not ready for it.


The last 2 major lans in EU Stephano placed higher then Huk took 3rd in Assemply summer how is that not proving himself??

Many people will ignore as much logic as possible to convince themselves that IdrA is the best player in the world. Not worth bashing your head against the wall.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
September 24 2011 16:23 GMT
#102
On September 25 2011 01:19 Hazuc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:06 Lunas wrote:
On September 25 2011 01:04 Hazuc wrote:
Thorzain for T
Huk for P
IdrA for Z

Can't believe people voted for Stephano. He hasn't prove himself yet.


Idra over Sen,Stephano and Dimaga? plz provide some evidence to backup that claim?


- Qualified for every GSL Open Season and made it to the round of 8 during GSL January
- Won IPL Season 1
- Won MLG D.C.
- He's the only foreigner that managed to make a top 4 to a MLG since the koreans started to compete there
- etc.


well, thats about half a year ago.
in the last 2-3 months....
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 24 2011 16:23 GMT
#103
Thorzain, but Mana isn't getting nearly enough love. That man is a fucking beast, better than Nani right now, and Idra (him and Kas don't deserve to be there over Nerchio btw) and possibly Sen, but I only say that cause I haven't seen him play in ages.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
adi_hsd
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania74 Posts
September 24 2011 16:23 GMT
#104
you can hate Idra as much as u want but he still is the best zerg outside of Korea.
mark05
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada807 Posts
September 24 2011 16:24 GMT
#105
Id vote for white-ra
yes, I'm MarkOhFive
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
September 24 2011 16:24 GMT
#106
On September 25 2011 01:20 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Does Sen even play on the KR ladder anymore now that he is full time Taiwan?

If he doesn't, then he is NOT the best foriegn anymore and will slowly slip off the radar like every other non-kr training foreigner.


KR + Taiwan merged. o.o

He was practicing on KR server even before the merger.
Lunas
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
September 24 2011 16:24 GMT
#107
On September 25 2011 01:19 Hazuc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:06 Lunas wrote:
On September 25 2011 01:04 Hazuc wrote:
Thorzain for T
Huk for P
IdrA for Z

Can't believe people voted for Stephano. He hasn't prove himself yet.


Idra over Sen,Stephano and Dimaga? plz provide some evidence to backup that claim?


- Qualified for every GSL Open Season and made it to the round of 8 during GSL January
- Won IPL Season 1
- Won MLG D.C.
- He's the only foreigner that managed to make a top 4 to a MLG since the koreans started to compete there
- etc.


Thats 1 year ago.

Game was just released no-one knew how to play back then

DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
September 24 2011 16:24 GMT
#108
I would say by achievements HuK but Thorzain would be a CLOSE 2nd for me (also some bias towards huk to be fair) then most potential i believe would be Select im excited to see select in Code A once he gets some korean practice in.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
eoLithic
Profile Joined July 2010
Norway221 Posts
September 24 2011 16:25 GMT
#109
Think THorzain will ride on the TSL victory for quite a while. He is however, showing some great play in pretty much all of his matches, which is what matters, but in terms of result, dunno bout him.

Would go for naniwa or huk tbh
"You`re a pro or you`re a noob...that`s life"
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
September 24 2011 16:25 GMT
#110
On September 25 2011 01:23 adi_hsd wrote:
you can hate Idra as much as u want but he still is the best zerg outside of Korea.


Hahaha. Better than Sen/Stephano/Nerchio?

Anyone who is voting Idra is obviously a clueless fanboy, sorry someone had to say it.
501TFX
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria345 Posts
September 24 2011 16:26 GMT
#111
I think Stephano will become a beast in a few months, but right now I don't think he is really the best.
IdrA ... ye .. I don't know really, yeah, he showed some results, but I feel they are just not as strong, as 4-5 months ago ...

I voted for HuK, just because I think, if he took a break from all the traveling, he would just steamroll everybody (including Koreans ..)

I personally miss Sheth in this list (or am I blind?), IMO he is a really strong player, especially his ZvP is beasty. He is maybe not the best, but atleast he would deserve a spot in here
Never let your dreams fade, run after them, run until you get them !
affliction
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany198 Posts
September 24 2011 16:26 GMT
#112
huk/thorzain/stephano for me.... but i have to say that i chose huk over mana only course he already has results in korea. skill-wise mana is sky-high at the moment
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
September 24 2011 16:26 GMT
#113
Wow, a poll that actually surprised me. Huk not being on top makes me think that people are voting based on who they support/favor, not "who is the best foreigner" as the question asks.
Has any foreigner gotten as far as Huk (RO8) in Code S since Jinro's (RO4) and IdrA's (RO8) performance 9 months ago? If I'm wrong I'd be glad to be corrected by someone.
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
September 24 2011 16:27 GMT
#114
On September 25 2011 01:23 adi_hsd wrote:
you can hate Idra as much as u want but he still is the best zerg outside of Korea.

Right. And Incontrol is the best protoss?
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
September 24 2011 16:27 GMT
#115
SeN, ThorZaIN, MaNa and Stephano are by far the best foreigners imo. (sorry HuK)
If I had to pick one, then Stephano's absolutlely inhumane winstreak at the moment takes the prize, he's looking nigh-unbeatable atm.
Hazuc
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada471 Posts
September 24 2011 16:28 GMT
#116
On September 25 2011 01:25 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:23 adi_hsd wrote:
you can hate Idra as much as u want but he still is the best zerg outside of Korea.


Hahaha. Better than Sen/Stephano/Nerchio?

Anyone who is voting Idra is obviously a clueless fanboy, sorry someone had to say it.


Anyone who is voting against IdrA is obviously a clueless hater, sorry someone had to say it.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
September 24 2011 16:28 GMT
#117
People who are saying Sen still, what has he done in the last 2 months?

Apparently old results are meaningless (see idra posts), so how can you say Sen?
romanov
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands892 Posts
September 24 2011 16:29 GMT
#118
I would say Thorzain most skilled, Mana most potential. Since his second place at Dreamhack i believe that Mana will one day be the best SC2 player ever! Mana fighting!
Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
September 24 2011 16:29 GMT
#119
Thorzain. Not even dabatable. He is in fact the only good foreigner right now.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
September 24 2011 16:29 GMT
#120
My brain says Thorzain, but my heart says Ret.

Also I'm surprised by how many votes Idra and Stephano got...
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