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Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
September 24 2011 16:36 GMT
#141
I'm a fanboy of Stephano, and I consider him capable of being the best foreigner easily. But currently? No. Let him prove himself a bit more. I also hope he gets his ass to some major tournament, or even better, Korea.

Thorzain and Mana have proved themselves over and over again. And Mana is quite possibly the best on-form PvT around, including Korea.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
September 24 2011 16:36 GMT
#142
On September 25 2011 01:33 PHILtheTANK wrote:
If it was "Who is your favorite progamer" maybe my answer would be different, but since its "Who is the best progamer" i don't know how anyone else could even be CONSIDERED other than Huk. Still the only foreigner to win lan events with koreans there right? Still the only foreigner to maintain a spot in Code S, something that a number of great Koreans can't do. Hes the clear and only choice.



No, Dimaga won Assembly.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
September 24 2011 16:36 GMT
#143
you guys have no clue, i watch streams every day and I'll tell you now that the best player outside korea is either spanishiwa or destiny!
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
September 24 2011 16:36 GMT
#144
On September 25 2011 01:35 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:30 ReaperX wrote:
On September 25 2011 00:51 Denzil wrote:
I haven't been up to date with Stephano lately but what has he done against Koreans? The only thing I think I can remember is him getting crushed by MC at HSC


and him getting raped by PuMa in IEM


Stephano has achieved significantly less that 60% of people on that list, I have no idea how he has grabbed so many votes.



Its much like Naniwa became an instant fan when he went like 30+ Box's in a row without losing. Stephano recently shows alot of success on ladder and a few online cups, so attention has reverted to him. He will either start to dominate, or slip back into nothingness.

Its kinda like KAS. KAS was expected to be like a 'god' from alot of the EU community. He is def good, but got super overhyped and shit.
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
IMNotMvp
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)530 Posts
September 24 2011 16:37 GMT
#145
Huk is the best foreigner... he is code S lol.
Stephano beated mma puzzle mkp but in an offline tournament (right?), that doesnt mean anything, or well he is good but i think that koreans play so bad in offline tourneys.
kraut
Profile Joined April 2010
374 Posts
September 24 2011 16:37 GMT
#146
On September 25 2011 01:35 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:30 ReaperX wrote:
On September 25 2011 00:51 Denzil wrote:
I haven't been up to date with Stephano lately but what has he done against Koreans? The only thing I think I can remember is him getting crushed by MC at HSC


and him getting raped by PuMa in IEM


Stephano has achieved significantly less that 60% of people on that list, I have no idea how he has grabbed so many votes.



because the question is "who do you think is the best foreigner?" and not who achieved the most.
blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 16:38:44
September 24 2011 16:37 GMT
#147
a month is a very long time in sc2. you can go from hero to zero in just 1 month so it's hard to say. i don't think any foreigner is winning a tournament if an elite korean terran is invited. huk's results were a long time ago. i'm going to have to go with thorzain right now.
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 16:43:51
September 24 2011 16:37 GMT
#148
On September 25 2011 01:22 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:19 MrMercuG wrote:
Uuuh, SelecT is not American.

His ethnicity is Korean, but he practices with foreigners and has a U.S. citizenship.

He's very much a foreigner.


I could have sworn in an numerous interviews he's in the US solely for the purpose of school, or it was his purpose until SC2 came out. It's not the same as DDE being korean and living in Canada(going off the assumption he was born in Canada but his ethnicity is Korean.)
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 24 2011 16:39 GMT
#149
On September 25 2011 01:36 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:33 PHILtheTANK wrote:
If it was "Who is your favorite progamer" maybe my answer would be different, but since its "Who is the best progamer" i don't know how anyone else could even be CONSIDERED other than Huk. Still the only foreigner to win lan events with koreans there right? Still the only foreigner to maintain a spot in Code S, something that a number of great Koreans can't do. Hes the clear and only choice.



No, Dimaga won Assembly.


wat Nada was the only Korean in attendance from what Liquipedia tells me, Koreans as in more than 1.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 16:39:59
September 24 2011 16:39 GMT
#150
On September 25 2011 01:36 ohampatu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:35 Denzil wrote:
On September 25 2011 01:30 ReaperX wrote:
On September 25 2011 00:51 Denzil wrote:
I haven't been up to date with Stephano lately but what has he done against Koreans? The only thing I think I can remember is him getting crushed by MC at HSC


and him getting raped by PuMa in IEM


Stephano has achieved significantly less that 60% of people on that list, I have no idea how he has grabbed so many votes.



Its much like Naniwa became an instant fan when he went like 30+ Box's in a row without losing. Stephano recently shows alot of success on ladder and a few online cups, so attention has reverted to him. He will either start to dominate, or slip back into nothingness.

Its kinda like KAS. KAS was expected to be like a 'god' from alot of the EU community. He is def good, but got super overhyped and shit.


At that time Kas was probably the best TvT player in europe.
And stephano keeps kicking ass all over.. its getting pretty scary.

Edit: but I do agree he doesnt deserve the number one spot atm.
Always look on the bright side of life
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
September 24 2011 16:40 GMT
#151
On September 25 2011 01:37 SONE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:22 Daralii wrote:
On September 25 2011 01:19 MrMercuG wrote:
Uuuh, SelecT is not American.

His ethnicity is Korean, but he practices with foreigners and has a U.S. citizenship.

He's very much a foreigner.


I could have sworn in an numerous interviews he's in the US solely for the purpose of school, or it was his purpose.

I heard it was to dodge mandatory military service, but I'm not positive.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
humbre
Profile Joined August 2011
353 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 16:41:27
September 24 2011 16:40 GMT
#152
nvm
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 24 2011 16:41 GMT
#153
On September 25 2011 01:39 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:36 TheBanana wrote:
On September 25 2011 01:33 PHILtheTANK wrote:
If it was "Who is your favorite progamer" maybe my answer would be different, but since its "Who is the best progamer" i don't know how anyone else could even be CONSIDERED other than Huk. Still the only foreigner to win lan events with koreans there right? Still the only foreigner to maintain a spot in Code S, something that a number of great Koreans can't do. Hes the clear and only choice.



No, Dimaga won Assembly.


wat Nada was the only Korean in attendance from what Liquipedia tells me, Koreans as in more than 1.

Naama won Dreamhack Winter 2010, and it had Inca and Top.
Drizzt3
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States189 Posts
September 24 2011 16:41 GMT
#154
HuK is the best but protoss is terrible now so Thorzain comes off as better
"Before my time is done I will look down at your corpse and smile."-Brad Pitt (Achilles)
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 24 2011 16:41 GMT
#155
On September 25 2011 01:37 kraut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:35 Denzil wrote:
On September 25 2011 01:30 ReaperX wrote:
On September 25 2011 00:51 Denzil wrote:
I haven't been up to date with Stephano lately but what has he done against Koreans? The only thing I think I can remember is him getting crushed by MC at HSC


and him getting raped by PuMa in IEM


Stephano has achieved significantly less that 60% of people on that list, I have no idea how he has grabbed so many votes.



because the question is "who do you think is the best foreigner?" and not who achieved the most.


Then the question isn't a good one.

The best foreigner of when? Last 2-3 months? Since release? Since last month?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
StatX
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada343 Posts
September 24 2011 16:41 GMT
#156
For results and prestige alone, theres no denying Huk here.

That being said, I really like select.

Can we snipe it? Yes we can!
LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
September 24 2011 16:41 GMT
#157
yeah idra doesn't belong on the list. he has been scrubbing it up lately
since 98'
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 24 2011 16:43 GMT
#158
On September 25 2011 01:41 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:39 Denzil wrote:
On September 25 2011 01:36 TheBanana wrote:
On September 25 2011 01:33 PHILtheTANK wrote:
If it was "Who is your favorite progamer" maybe my answer would be different, but since its "Who is the best progamer" i don't know how anyone else could even be CONSIDERED other than Huk. Still the only foreigner to win lan events with koreans there right? Still the only foreigner to maintain a spot in Code S, something that a number of great Koreans can't do. Hes the clear and only choice.



No, Dimaga won Assembly.


wat Nada was the only Korean in attendance from what Liquipedia tells me, Koreans as in more than 1.

Naama won Dreamhack Winter 2010, and it had Inca and Top.


My head hurts from such confusing arguments and counter arguments when there isn't a consensus on what is counted and what isn't.

If that's in support of Naama being a good foreigner then Idra is better if not the best as during that time he consistantly beat Koreans placed well in Code S and won MLG
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
September 24 2011 16:43 GMT
#159
On September 25 2011 01:39 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 01:36 TheBanana wrote:
On September 25 2011 01:33 PHILtheTANK wrote:
If it was "Who is your favorite progamer" maybe my answer would be different, but since its "Who is the best progamer" i don't know how anyone else could even be CONSIDERED other than Huk. Still the only foreigner to win lan events with koreans there right? Still the only foreigner to maintain a spot in Code S, something that a number of great Koreans can't do. Hes the clear and only choice.



No, Dimaga won Assembly.


wat Nada was the only Korean in attendance from what Liquipedia tells me, Koreans as in more than 1.


Oh, I thought the criteria was bad enough by itself, I didn't know it was supposed to be slimmed down to be even worse.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 16:45:15
September 24 2011 16:44 GMT
#160
I voted (T)ThorZaIN, I truly believe he plays the best starcraft 2 of all foreigners, but I'd add a few things.

-Most accomplished: (P)HuK
-Best "up and coming": (Z)Stephano
-Highest potential: (Z)DIMAGA

Best Terran: (T)ThorZaIN
Best Zerg: (Z)Stephano
Best Protoss: (P)HuK

Undeserving in that list: (Z)IdrA
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