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On September 25 2011 01:12 LionKiNG wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 01:04 Hazuc wrote:
Thorzain for T
Huk for P
IdrA for Z
Can't believe people voted for Stephano. He hasn't prove himself yet. Proof? He is classes above IdrA, he is roflstomping best korean TvZ players, so seriously...u can have opinion that IdrA is best but saying something like that for such a talent and person that PROVEN himself in last 2 months is stupid.
For real? Online?
When will people get it in their head that playing against Koreans online holds little to no truth what so ever? Take TSL for an example. How many people beat Koreans in there? Then using your logic those Foreigners > Koreans
Look at the past 3 / 4 months, how many foreigners have beat Koreans at Lans? Not as many as the TSL results would have you thinking.
I have nothing against Stephano I think though that people give him too much credit, he will be the future of Zerg but he isn't just yet for a reason because he's not ready for it.
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Sen closely followed by thorzain
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ThorZaIN for T and overall.
NaNiwa for P.
Sen for Z, likely Stephano very soon though.
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On September 25 2011 01:14 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 01:12 LionKiNG wrote:On September 25 2011 01:04 Hazuc wrote:
Thorzain for T
Huk for P
IdrA for Z
Can't believe people voted for Stephano. He hasn't prove himself yet. Proof? He is classes above IdrA, he is roflstomping best korean TvZ players, so seriously...u can have opinion that IdrA is best but saying something like that for such a talent and person that PROVEN himself in last 2 months is stupid. In online tournaments. All sorts of weird and wonderful things happen in online tournaments which don't happen at LAN's. Stephano still needs to prove himself at a Dreamhack or MLG like Huk did.
Well, to be honest in the last two offline tournaments both of them attended, Stephano placed higher than HuK, plus he beat him at Homestory Cup.
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Ahahah the idra hate is pretty funny.
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On September 25 2011 01:06 TheBanana wrote:
ZvZ: Nerchio
ZvT: Stephano
ZvP: Nerchio
TvP: Thorzain
TvT: SjoW (It used to be, not sure now)
TvZ: Thorzain
PvP: Huk/Naniwa
PvT: Mana
PvZ: Huk
Mana's PvZ and PvP > Huk bro
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On September 25 2011 01:14 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 01:06 TheBanana wrote:
ZvZ: Nerchio
ZvT: Stephano
ZvP: Nerchio
TvP: Thorzain
TvT: SjoW (It used to be, not sure now)
TvZ: Thorzain
PvP: Huk/Naniwa
PvT: Mana
PvZ: Huk Agree, the only matchups I'm not that sure about are TvT and PvZ, it's really hard to say who's the best there. As for the poll, I voted Thorzain as best, IdrA as not belonging on the list and Nerchio as most deserving to be on the list, as evidenced by the fact that I'd give him the title of best Zerg in two of three matchups.
I agree, the TvT and PvZ I'm not sure about.
I have some doubts about the ZvP as well, the other 6 I feel strongly about.
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Major should definitely be on the list.
He may not be a likable or respectable person but hes hands down the best NA Terran and has a 63% overall win ratio (78% in TvT).
Also, hes only lost 3 sets the past 2 months.
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On September 25 2011 01:06 Lunas wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 01:04 Hazuc wrote:
Thorzain for T
Huk for P
IdrA for Z
Can't believe people voted for Stephano. He hasn't prove himself yet. Idra over Sen,Stephano and Dimaga? plz provide some evidence to backup that claim?
- Qualified for every GSL Open Season and made it to the round of 8 during GSL January
- Won IPL Season 1
- Won MLG D.C.
- He's the only foreigner that managed to make a top 4 to a MLG since the koreans started to compete there
- etc.
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Uuuh, SelecT is not American.
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Does Sen even play on the KR ladder anymore now that he is full time Taiwan?
If he doesn't, then he is NOT the best foriegn anymore and will slowly slip off the radar like every other non-kr training foreigner.
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On September 25 2011 01:19 MrMercuG wrote:
Uuuh, SelecT is not American.
and americans are europeans
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On September 25 2011 01:19 Hazuc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 01:06 Lunas wrote:On September 25 2011 01:04 Hazuc wrote:
Thorzain for T
Huk for P
IdrA for Z
Can't believe people voted for Stephano. He hasn't prove himself yet. Idra over Sen,Stephano and Dimaga? plz provide some evidence to backup that claim? - Qualified for every GSL Open Season and made it to the round of 8 during GSL January - Won IPL Season 1 - Won MLG D.C. - He's the only foreigner that managed to make a top 4 to a MLG since the koreans started to compete there - etc.
What has he done for us lately.
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On September 25 2011 01:19 Hazuc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 01:06 Lunas wrote:On September 25 2011 01:04 Hazuc wrote:
Thorzain for T
Huk for P
IdrA for Z
Can't believe people voted for Stephano. He hasn't prove himself yet. Idra over Sen,Stephano and Dimaga? plz provide some evidence to backup that claim? - Qualified for every GSL Open Season and made it to the round of 8 during GSL January - Won IPL Season 1 - Won MLG D.C. - He's the only foreigner that managed to make a top 4 to a MLG since the koreans started to compete there - etc.
IdrA's results have been dipping massively recently, and right now hes nowhere near the top foreign Zerg.
Those results were from a year ago, except IPL Season 1 which was played ~6 months ago.
Its undeniable that hes not doing well recently, he hasn't placed decently In a MLG since Columbus either.
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On September 25 2011 01:20 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 01:19 Hazuc wrote:On September 25 2011 01:06 Lunas wrote:On September 25 2011 01:04 Hazuc wrote:
Thorzain for T
Huk for P
IdrA for Z
Can't believe people voted for Stephano. He hasn't prove himself yet. Idra over Sen,Stephano and Dimaga? plz provide some evidence to backup that claim? - Qualified for every GSL Open Season and made it to the round of 8 during GSL January - Won IPL Season 1 - Won MLG D.C. - He's the only foreigner that managed to make a top 4 to a MLG since the koreans started to compete there - etc. What has he done for us lately.
What has any foreigner done for us lately?
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On September 25 2011 01:19 MrMercuG wrote:
Uuuh, SelecT is not American.
His ethnicity is Korean, but he practices with foreigners and has a U.S. citizenship.
He's very much a foreigner.
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On September 25 2011 01:15 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 01:12 LionKiNG wrote:On September 25 2011 01:04 Hazuc wrote:
Thorzain for T
Huk for P
IdrA for Z
Can't believe people voted for Stephano. He hasn't prove himself yet. Proof? He is classes above IdrA, he is roflstomping best korean TvZ players, so seriously...u can have opinion that IdrA is best but saying something like that for such a talent and person that PROVEN himself in last 2 months is stupid. For real? Online? When will people get it in their head that playing against Koreans online holds little to no truth what so ever? Take TSL for an example. How many people beat Koreans in there? Then using your logic those Foreigners > Koreans Look at the past 3 / 4 months, how many foreigners have beat Koreans at Lans? Not as many as the TSL results would have you thinking. I have nothing against Stephano I think though that people give him too much credit, he will be the future of Zerg but he isn't just yet for a reason because he's not ready for it.
The last 2 major lans in EU Stephano placed higher then Huk took 3rd in Assemply summer how is that not proving himself??
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ThorZain/Sen/HuK for each race. Idra shouldn't be on that list
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On September 25 2011 01:22 Toppp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2011 01:19 Hazuc wrote:On September 25 2011 01:06 Lunas wrote:On September 25 2011 01:04 Hazuc wrote:
Thorzain for T
Huk for P
IdrA for Z
Can't believe people voted for Stephano. He hasn't prove himself yet. Idra over Sen,Stephano and Dimaga? plz provide some evidence to backup that claim? - Qualified for every GSL Open Season and made it to the round of 8 during GSL January - Won IPL Season 1 - Won MLG D.C. - He's the only foreigner that managed to make a top 4 to a MLG since the koreans started to compete there - etc. IdrA's results have been dipping massively recently, and right now hes nowhere near the top foreign Zerg. Those results were from a year ago, except IPL Season 1 which was played ~6 months ago. Its undeniable that hes not doing well recently, he hasn't placed decently In a MLG since Columbus either.
Ofc it is, but the same is true for other players on that list (offline results).
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