EPTplz blizz remove hellions and reapers alltogether and give us back the firebat, so we have an effective fightingweapon for melee, light, groundunits and no gay backstabby units
Patch 1.4 PTR Notes (updated 9/8) - Page 66
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Since this whole topic degenerated into the usual balance flamefest where every topic ends up if unmoderated it's time for it to clean up. Locking this down for a while. Any posts made after my post [page 233] not addressing the changes in this patch directly and containting flames or general balance whine will get banned for at least a week. ~Nyovne There is way too much flaming in this thread right now. Calm down before you post! (Page 271) ~iamke55 | ||
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harhar!
Germany190 Posts
plz blizz remove hellions and reapers alltogether and give us back the firebat, so we have an effective fightingweapon for melee, light, groundunits and no gay backstabby units | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 25 2011 13:47 Spectorials wrote: Infestor move speed OFF creep is 2.25. Creep gives 30% speed bonus. Infestor move speed ON creeps is 2.925  creep gives different bonuses to different units no? 30% increase to Queen's base off creep would be useless. | ||
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Karellen
United States50 Posts
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On August 25 2011 13:46 Pirat6662001 wrote: Thats true, but the super early game is already so fragile (early is 3-7 minutes), thing like 6 pool on maps with hard to wall off places and proxy gates become stronger cause u have a big delay in marine production+ a lot of early terran pressure is now now possible (i really dont want it to become a turtle race again, cause then i'll have to switch) I don't think 6 pool has ever been an issue against terran. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51080 Posts
On August 25 2011 13:49 Karellen wrote: I never knew contaminate was imba lol not imba but stupidly annoying. | ||
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
Overall, really nice changes | ||
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Diversify
Canada30 Posts
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
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Pirat6662001
Russian Federation949 Posts
On August 25 2011 13:49 KimJongChill wrote: I don't think 6 pool has ever been an issue against terran. Its not, but proxy gates on Xel naga been an issue before | ||
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hitpoint
United States1511 Posts
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akalarry
United States1978 Posts
nerfing barracks time is so annoying. especially in tvp close positions. why can't blizzard just remove close positions altogether. sigh. | ||
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Spectorials
558 Posts
On August 25 2011 13:48 Condor Hero wrote: creep gives different bonuses to different units no? 30% increase to Queen's base off creep would be useless. Hydra's get 50% Queens get 170% | ||
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HinagikUx
United States178 Posts
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densha
United States797 Posts
I honestly think the Hellion has been very healthy for the SC2 meta-game and as much as I hate them sometimes, I'm not sure if they should be nerfed. I guess if you really think about it, though, even if Blue Flame was completely removed they'd still be a powerful unit in groups of 3 and 4 or more. The barracks change is cool - I'm all for slowing down the Terran early game in any way possible. Seeker missile is interesting - hopefully that change leads to more opportunities to micro against it in pro games, making for more exciting and tense moments. Protoss changes seem fine overall, I'm just fearful of Immortal range though, but I guess that's just me since I prefer the old-fashioned roach/hydra/corruptor style most of the time. | ||
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Drium
United States888 Posts
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 25 2011 13:50 Diversify wrote: This is just a guess on the barrack change, but I think its to make it so Protoss can Nexus first or 1 gate FE against terran to better hold off the 1/1/1, while not flat out dying to 2 rax when terran scouts it. Just a guess though. sadly 5 secs will probably just encourage terrans to tug more scvs off the mineral line. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On August 25 2011 13:50 Pirat6662001 wrote: Its not, but proxy gates on Xel naga been an issue before Hmm, I think 5 second delay can be compensated by repair. | ||
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Snaphoo
United States614 Posts
On August 25 2011 13:48 harhar! wrote: ehhhhh, whats the point of bf nao? plz blizz remove hellions and reapers alltogether and give us back the firebat, so we have an effective fightingweapon for melee, light, groundunits and no gay backstabby units I REALLY REALLY REALLY wish TL had a Reddit-style upvote/downvote system so that I could read the thoughts of actual pros and community pillars (Travis/Alejandrisha/Sheth/Tyler/Jinro/etc.) without having to sift through 60 pages of trash like this. | ||
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_Search_
Canada180 Posts
[B]On August 25 2011 13:39 SetStndbySmn wrote: do you... do you realize carriers arn't aoe? things like this make people think you really only have a good understanding of your own race, and your opinion is meaningless bias. Which is why most of my comments were geared toward TvT, most of the Protoss changes were heavily praised (I only disagreed with the WP buff) and the Zerg changes were considered unnecessary, in other words I'm fairly neutral on the Zerg changes. But, no, please dismiss the whole post because you don't consider Carriers to be AOE. And, judging from other comments, it seems like many others are also questioning the Terran nerfs. It's not like I'm against Terran nerfs, this is just not the way to do it. At this point Blizzard needs to be using a scalpel, not a baseball bat. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On August 25 2011 13:47 Spectorials wrote: Infestor move speed OFF creep is 2.25. Creep gives 30% speed bonus. Infestor move speed ON creeps is 2.925 Omg return of Defiler vs Science vessel? I hope this change goes through, it would be so cool. | ||
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