EPTPatch 1.4 PTR Notes (updated 9/8) - Page 44
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Since this whole topic degenerated into the usual balance flamefest where every topic ends up if unmoderated it's time for it to clean up. Locking this down for a while. Any posts made after my post [page 233] not addressing the changes in this patch directly and containting flames or general balance whine will get banned for at least a week. ~Nyovne There is way too much flaming in this thread right now. Calm down before you post! (Page 271) ~iamke55 | ||
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Theeakoz
United States1114 Posts
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shinyA
United States473 Posts
-1 vision range to high ground + Blink research nerf....NO ONE WILL GO BLINK ANYMORE. It's useless, I'm guessing a single forcefield on ramp will completely counter Blink stalkers and with the immortal buff no one will even bother. Every single game will be 4 gate into colossus , no variety. It's stupid and un-entertaining. 4 gate v 4 gate was at least exciting , this is going to be sooo boring... The ghost is still OP The infestor is still OP Blizzard didn't address the problems all, I don't know what to say. | ||
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TA.GaMei
Dominican Republic23 Posts
On August 25 2011 10:56 Flying_Cake wrote: Rax 5 seconds = 3.5 seconds real time. Won't change anything. The map has a way bigger impact than this change. Hunter Seeker Can basically catch up to anything except phoenix and mutas. Unit vision up ramps reduced Can't wait to see this change in action. Anything that will help the defender will make better gameplay and give us more entertaining games. Blink Nerf This nerf isn't going to change much since you can only get blink past early game. 20 seconds won't change much at this stage since you'll still have the same number of stalkers. The rax changes will provide other races more time to scout inside the terran base imo. thats very good since Terran have like 10 viable openings. | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On August 25 2011 11:55 BLinD-RawR wrote: so far on TL I've only seen you hate and bash people. So Far on TL i've only seen you cry about peoples view points. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On August 25 2011 11:54 XRaDiiX wrote: I told ya Destiny was a one Trick Pony... Infestor Nerf Have Fun in High Masters Destiny Destiny won't be GM anymore He's a One Trick Pony. As Zerg i'm glad to see the Infestor Nerf i don't use Infestor TOO often only as a support unit in Late game compositions.... And I'm Glad the Infestor Was nerfed i felt it was too OP. I am Really liking the Overseer Gas Reduction and the Ultralisk Build time Decrease. Wow, why do you hate the guy so much, did he offend you or something? | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
On August 25 2011 11:54 XRaDiiX wrote: I told ya Destiny was a one Trick Pony... Infestor Nerf Have Fun in High Masters Destiny Destiny won't be GM anymore He's a One Trick Pony. As Zerg i'm glad to see the Infestor Nerf i don't use Infestor TOO often only as a support unit in Late game compositions.... And I'm Glad the Infestor Was nerfed i felt it was too OP. I am Really liking the Overseer Gas Reduction and the Ultralisk Build time Decrease. Please stop posting this kind of trash man. No matter what you feel about Destiny, he's more than a one trick pony. Also, your bizarre capitalization makes your posts difficult to read. Chin up bud. | ||
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
I still don't think that 5 seconds is going to have monumental changes to any match-up and I doubt if it makes the actual patch. I am guessing this is to combat bunker pressures against Z, we'll have to wait to see what it actually means though. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
On August 25 2011 11:44 Dommk wrote: What the hell is that build :S? Sounds so stupid, you need a good 50 probes to support that many gates off two base... by the time that hits Terran should have like 3/4 Medivacs and nullify the push Immediately thought of the Cella 13gate build. Can't seem to understand the addition of 5 seconds to rax but otherwise this seems to be a good patch. | ||
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jazzbassmatt
United States566 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13391 Posts
Wait, Guardian shield didnt do this BEFORE!? WTF!? | ||
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ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
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A Wet Shamwow
United States1590 Posts
On August 25 2011 11:58 TA.GaMei wrote: The rax changes will provide other races more time to scout inside the terran base imo. thats very good since Terran have like 10 viable openings. This doesn't matter, you will just get your worker killed 5 seconds later and not see anything, all this does is change EVERY single Terran timing. I am fine with every terran change (even happy about the hellion change) but this seems unneeded. | ||
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
General Unit vision up ramps has been reduced by 1. A good change for PvP and in general. PROTOSS Immortal Attack range increased from 5 to 6. An unnecessary change but some would probably be happy with it. Mothership Acceleration increased from 0.3 to 1.375. The Mothership’s Cloaking Field no longer cloaks all units instantaneously, but rather adds units to the cloak field over time (maximum of 25 per second). This should alleviate “Mothership Lag” issue when a Mothership comes online. I don't think this would affect mothership usage at high-levels but a nice change nonetheless. Stalker Blink research time increased from 110 to 140. This is an interesting change but I fear it just makes Robo builds much stronger in PvP. I fear we'll just be seeing more War of the Worlds again. Warp Prism Shields increased from 40 to 100. Great change TERRAN Barracks Build time increased from 60 to 65. A very bad change. With the possible exception of the 1-1-1 almost every other timing attack has been figured out and defended. This would just slow Terran as a whole and push them towards the late-game where they are arguably the weakest. Hellion Infernal Pre-Igniter damage upgrade decreased from 10 to 5. This was a necessary change. BFH 2 shot workers were really silly. However I wish this was scaled by a reduction in the upgrade cost or a buff to mech. Raven Seeker missile movement speed increased from 2.5 to 2.953. An interesting change to encourage HSM. ZERG Infestor Fungal Growth damage changed from 36 (+30% armored) to 30 (40 vs Armored). Overall this merely affects ZvP and ZvZ because they have the tankier units. ZvT this is a small nerf to infestors since marines are still glass cannons. Added with the side buff that NPed units retain their upgrade, Infestors are still ridiculously powerful. Overseer Morph cost decreased from 50/100 to 50/50. Contaminate energy cost increased from 75 to 125. Unnecessary change imo but we'll see how this goes. Ultralisk Build time decreased from 70 to 55. Ridiculous change. Zerg late-game is powerful enough. I do not see why they needed to make it even more powerful. If this was to encourage Ultra usage they needed to buff it in a different way and nerf Broodlords and infestors. | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
By far the best "dropship"-type unit in the game now.. Will be really fun to see what a WhiteRa or Puzzle can do with this | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
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NuclearWINtr
United States125 Posts
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Trusty
New Zealand520 Posts
On August 25 2011 11:58 shinyA wrote: I could live with this if it didn't affect PvP so much. -1 vision range to high ground + Blink research nerf....NO ONE WILL GO BLINK ANYMORE. It's useless, I'm guessing a single forcefield on ramp will completely counter Blink stalkers and with the immortal buff no one will even bother. Every single game will be 4 gate into colossus , no variety. It's stupid and un-entertaining. 4 gate v 4 gate was at least exciting , this is going to be sooo boring... The ghost is still OP The infestor is still OP Blizzard didn't address the problems all, I don't know what to say. no one will go 4gate, bro. | ||
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