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Since this whole topic degenerated into the usual balance flamefest where every topic ends up if unmoderated it's time for it to clean up. Locking this down for a while. Any posts made after my post [page 233] not addressing the changes in this patch directly and containting flames or general balance whine will get banned for at least a week. ~Nyovne There is way too much flaming in this thread right now. Calm down before you post! (Page 271) ~iamke55 | ||
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
On September 09 2011 21:33 MapleLeafSirup wrote: This is not only a nerf, it makes the infestor useless and zvp wont be winnable anymore so now making only a few to fungal suddenly = worthless and unwinnable matchup? lol | ||
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Xacalite
Germany533 Posts
Thats exactly what I thought. Blizz thinks zerg has too many options. Its too complicated for us. So they make everything useless except roaches and flying roaches. Im so glad I play zerg. On a serious note though: when you have your tips "on" during load time the tip for Neural Parasite says "use it against powerful enemy units like siegetanks or Colossi...... or Colossi...... Colossi.... thumbs up i guess. But then again Zerg is not supposed to be cost effective. The infestor was the only exception but i guess its gone now. Turned from a good patch to a disaster. | ||
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Saiton
Sweden467 Posts
On September 09 2011 21:33 MapleLeafSirup wrote: This is not only a nerf, it makes the infestor useless and zvp wont be winnable anymore RIGHT HERE is the problem. You're relying on your ONE unit to win you the entire game. That's what the infestor does and that's why it's being nerfed. | ||
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
It's not like it had ridiculous range or uncanny health for a spellcaster or the ability too go invisible *cough*ghosts*cough* | ||
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starmeat_
105 Posts
On September 09 2011 21:35 eYeball wrote: YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! Holy shit, I always wondered how a infestor could neutral parasite a colossus that's robotic or a fucking mothership. Good thing  Idra basically won the game against MC with NP on Immortals so yes. Robots use electrical signals. So does nerves. Plus, there's another being inside the Collosus controlling it, much like the Immortal. | ||
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ilikeLIONZ
Germany427 Posts
On September 09 2011 21:33 MapleLeafSirup wrote: This is not only a nerf, it makes the infestor useless and zvp wont be winnable anymore yeah, ask morrow about his zvp 95% winrate in practice, without abusing infestors. | ||
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Rybaia
Italy213 Posts
On September 09 2011 21:33 MapleLeafSirup wrote: This is not only a nerf, it makes the infestor useless and zvp wont be winnable anymore I've seen alot of Z players win without usig infestors in ZvP or without using np what are you talking about? O_o Fungal + Carpet bombing is still insanely good vs the protoss ball. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On September 09 2011 21:33 MapleLeafSirup wrote: This is not only a nerf, it makes the infestor useless and zvp wont be winnable anymore Do you think you might be exaggerating just a bit? Fungal Growth and Infested Terrans are still god-tier spells, Neural Parasite will just have a more niche role. | ||
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
I guess it's one of those changes where they'll just revert it back in a week, for whatever reason. | ||
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locant
Australia45 Posts
All the protoss wine seems to have made blizz take action and considering terran dont get hurt from this change i cant complain Edit: no more np thors :D | ||
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SlaverR
Germany87 Posts
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rpgalon
Brazil1069 Posts
where is my ghost nerf????? | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Also, isn't it more standard to use fungal + baneling drops to kill colossi instead of relying solely on neural parasite? | ||
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Dew.
Brazil104 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
Nobody is going to even research Neural now. Their use will be almost niche now. | ||
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Fyzar
Netherlands8010 Posts
Neural nerf, can't say I don't like that, it was so sad to see my poor zealots get raped by my own freaking archons ;<. | ||
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Darksoldierr
Hungary2012 Posts
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On September 09 2011 21:42 SlaverR wrote: ... and btw, how do you kill mass collossus/stalker armees no. corruptors are just a stupid couter, since they are a onesided, and really bad unit overall i think. it didnt work out befor, why would it work out now? : ( Fungal the enemy. Drop banelings on his head. | ||
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
Now said units can't be NPed anymore, so NP got useless or do you want to NP zealots ?? Here is an explanation: The colossus/voidray deathball was almost unbeatable, now that NP doesn't work anymore and fungal got nerfed, this deathball have its revival. Protoss will learn to just turtle and move out with the deathball because they are not dependant on pressuring anymore; every deathball with 5-6 colossus and maybe even archons or voidrays in addition will be too strong Sure zergs can beat protoss players without NP now, but protoss can easily change their unit compositions now | ||
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