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Since this whole topic degenerated into the usual balance flamefest where every topic ends up if unmoderated it's time for it to clean up. Locking this down for a while. Any posts made after my post [page 233] not addressing the changes in this patch directly and containting flames or general balance whine will get banned for at least a week. ~Nyovne There is way too much flaming in this thread right now. Calm down before you post! (Page 271) ~iamke55 | ||
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:16 zJayy962 wrote: Actually you can feedback when you are fungal'd. Maybe you should learn a little more about the game. they fungal then run away then ur out of range don't play with the words u dumb nut User was warned for this post | ||
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:16 zJayy962 wrote: Actually you can feedback when you are fungal'd. Maybe you should learn a little more about the game. I'm pretty sure he know a little bit more than you. Do you know him ? | ||
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BigKahunaBurger
Australia334 Posts
Why on earth would you ever want to NP a unit that ISN'T massive? Eliminating Colossi, Thors and Archons is around about 90% of all things you NP. Tanks and Immortals are the only things left, are very situational, and are probably not worth the research. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:11 Nomad123 wrote: so instead of encouraging toss/terran to use HT/ghost and learn to feedback/EMP the infestors, they make the neural useless?? of course protosses have used feedback a lot, it didn't change that infestors were still too good even with feedback | ||
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ImmortalTofu
United States1254 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:09 soupchicken wrote: The speed at which lings die to colossus is stunning, so no... this doesn't work. Well ofcourse! I meant do the "suicide corruptors to kill collosus" into surrounding the blink stalkers with lings and fungal... Is that possible? Or do corruptors die too quickly and it costs too much? | ||
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
 Mutas already own tanks. | ||
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Nomad123
95 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:13 desrow wrote: U can't feedback when ur fungal'd You can't feedback when theres a line of 6-10 broodlords shooting at ur army feedback is an ez answer but a bitch to use spread out your HT, toss has got into the habit of just making one giant ball. when you're at the part where opponent has 6-10 broodlords, you obviously have a lot of high tier units yourself. you will be able to spread out your ball to at least two and still be cost effective. then your HT spread out between the two balls and cast feedbacks. terrans can just spread out ghosts, cloak & EMP. zergs learned the hard way to spread out their infestors too against good HT users. why can't toss learn to use HT properly? | ||
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Tyrellius
36 Posts
I'd rather they try curtail 220-240 food armies that zerg glitch to by using the spine/spore cancel than totally nerf the infestor into the ground. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1213111662 Changes are italicized. Copy+Paste from the closed thread: I tried to compile the updates: Infestor’s Neural Parasite can no longer target Massive units. Custom maps with dependencies containing trigger libraries will now load significantly faster in the editor. Fixed an issue where at the end of a replay the leaving player’s Average APM would set to 0. Fixed an issue where Bunkers would not display their refunded minerals to the owner or allies when they are salvaged. Fixed an issue where Broodlords on the high ground would not be revealed when attacking enemy units on the low ground. Fixed an issue where closing the editor while the previewer is recording would crash the Editor. It looks like the Broodlord high ground advantage got fixed: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252693 And of course there is the obligatory Bunker change. | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
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fierywinds
22 Posts
Then zerg's units are incredibly cost ineffective the bigger the ball gets with the exception of units which actually have range like the broodlord and hydra. Unfortunately these 2 units are cost ineffective when their counters are deployed on the field unlike units like collosus and high templars which are still devastatingly cost effective even when corruptors or vikings are used. And now with this neural parasite nerf, if it goes through, i think most zergs will just be all inning every game before the game gets to late | ||
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
NP is going to seem a little pointless now. The Terran part of me is happy...the Starcraft part of me is not really. But it is just PTR. We'll see how it goes! | ||
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Gentso
United States2218 Posts
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:18 ImmortalTofu wrote: Well ofcourse! I meant do the "suicide corruptors to kill collosus" into surrounding the blink stalkers with lings and fungal... Is that possible? Or do corruptors die too quickly and it costs too much? you can't the corruptor don't do enought dps to kill collosis. you have to attack with you unit to force the toss to make his stalker attack the ground unit | ||
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Leyra
United States1222 Posts
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Nomad123
95 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:18 desrow wrote: they fungal then run away then ur out of range don't play with the words u dumb nut then your reaction time is slow if he got to run away. he just casted his fungal first as opposed to you casting your feedback first. your argument is the same as a zerg saying that fungal is useless cause toss casts feedback first on his/her infestors. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:18 BigKahunaBurger wrote: Have they seriously not thought of the logic of the neural parasite change? Why on earth would you ever want to NP a unit that ISN'T massive? Eliminating Colossi, Thors and Archons is around about 90% of all things you NP. Tanks and Immortals are the only things left, are very situational, and are probably not worth the research. good so infestor still has 2 great spells....... | ||
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biaxiong
United States180 Posts
I think this could be too huge even for me toss player. I say lower range by one or fungal wont stop massive units like massive units break forcefields. | ||
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Fission
Canada1184 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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