EPTOn September 09 2011 13:08 Alzadar wrote:
Did I miss the patch notes where they removed Brood Lords?
Did I miss the patch notes where they removed Brood Lords?
You know the push will come before brood lord right ?
Patch 1.4 PTR Notes (updated 9/8) - Page 260
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Since this whole topic degenerated into the usual balance flamefest where every topic ends up if unmoderated it's time for it to clean up. Locking this down for a while. Any posts made after my post [page 233] not addressing the changes in this patch directly and containting flames or general balance whine will get banned for at least a week. ~Nyovne There is way too much flaming in this thread right now. Calm down before you post! (Page 271) ~iamke55 | ||
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
You know the push will come before brood lord right ? | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:08 Alzadar wrote: Did I miss the patch notes where they removed Brood Lords? The push comes way before broodlords. | ||
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Nomad123
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nekoconeco
Australia359 Posts
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:08 Alzadar wrote: Did I miss the patch notes where they removed Brood Lords? For BL you need atleast 3-4 mining bases .. BL are tier 3. Better learn to understand game better then post bulshits like that . | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3135 Posts
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
Hydras in BW were actually useful in dealing with mech (mostly it was ultra / ling with drop and darkswarm, but they still had their place), and against colossus you could make a shit ton of hydras and form an arc and flank and so on. I would love BW-esque Hydras. With the Ling, they were always THE zerg unit. | ||
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:11 Nomad123 wrote: so instead of encouraging toss/terran to use HT/ghost and learn to feedback/EMP the infestors, they make the neural useless?? U can't feedback when ur fungal'd You can't feedback when theres a line of 6-10 broodlords shooting at ur army feedback is an ez answer but a bitch to use | ||
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Sandro
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sickoota
Canada918 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:07 MrDudeMan wrote: First of all, hydras may be decent against archons, but they get literally torn apart by storms and colossus. How exactly do you spam fungal the army when colossus outrange fungal? And when stalkers can blink ahead and pick off all of your infestors? Carriers are just a bad unit. Also, it may be true that NP'ing a mothership makes it useless for protoss, but if you are suggesting zerg kills protoss by spam fungaling the army, then why is it unreasonable that protoss players be expected to micro the mothership? Especially with the acceleration buff, it shouldn't be hard to keep it behind your army. Imagine that, a unit composition built from different units is better than just making one or two types of units. Going pure hydra is a terrible idea. Getting a small amount of hydras to mix in with a ling/infestor army or something sounds good to me, especially if those lings are soaking the colossi shots. It's like PvT if you think about it: Bio > gateway > vikings > colossi > bio. Stalkers can't blink if they are fungaled, colossus have the same range as fungal (range 9), so you're wrong there too. You can't micro a mothership btw, even with the acceleration buff. Sure, it can change direction quicker, but it's movement rate is so slow that it isn't going anywhere anytime soon. As for spamming fungal: move one infestor in and fungal, then back him out while the next one goes in. If stalkers blink forwards, surround with lings and fungal those too. BTW, your brood lord/infestor combo is really just as strong now as it was before: brood lords do damage, infestors fungal anything that gets close. You can't Neural colossi or archons now, but you sure as hell can take void rays or immortals still. | ||
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Lomak
United States311 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:09 Whomp wrote: I think it should read like this "Neural parasite has been removed from the game, however we thought it necessary to leave the research as a trap for fat finger zergs." Agreed. If that change goes through who would ever research it in a pro game. Doubt it would be. Also, how is NP on massive OP while Snipe is somehow fine when it wipes out 20k gas worth of ultra/brood. This just pisses me off I don't understand wtf blizz thought process is like. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:14 Lomak wrote: Agreed. If that change goes through who would ever research it in a pro game. Doubt it would be. Also, how is NP on massive OP while Snipe is somehow fine when it wipes out 20k gas worth of ultra/brood. This just pisses me off I don't understand wtf blizz thought process is like. Ghosts are OP too, but Blizzard just won't do anything about it. I keep begging them but it isn't working >_<. | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:13 sickoota wrote: They should just make feedbacking an infestor channeling neural stop the neural instead of removing the ability from the game (effectively)... what are you going to neural now a marine lol? If in next patch blizzard buff marines who knows :D hahaha | ||
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zJayy962
1363 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:13 desrow wrote: U can't feedback when ur fungal'd You can't feedback when theres a line of 6-10 broodlords shooting at ur army feedback is an ez answer but a bitch to use Actually you can feedback when you are fungal'd. Maybe you should learn a little more about the game. | ||
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FryktSkyene
United States1327 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:15 Whitewing wrote: Ghosts are OP too, but Blizzard just won't do anything about it. I keep begging them but it isn't working >_<. Blizzard likes to take there time with terran changes. | ||
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Rhedsa
Costa Rica594 Posts
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Empirimancer
Canada1024 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:09 Fig wrote: You can see what blizzard is aiming for. They don't want people solely massing infestors, which many people were, so they nerfed it to not be a cure-all. If that's the goal, they should give Zerg units good enough to beat 'deathball' compositions like Protoss Colossus/stalker/etc and Terran mech. The admittedly very powerful and very versatile infestor made up for the weakness and lack of versatility of the rest of the Zerg units. Terran/Protoss player here. | ||
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Grimjim
United States395 Posts
It's sad that a race that has been forced to adapt for a year is now being strictly punished because Protoss and Terran players lack the micro skills their Zerg opponents developed while playing at such a disadvantage over the year since SCll was released. If this change goes through, so goodbye to any major Zerg showing at any tournament, get used to watching 1 and 2 base timing push PvTs, 1A herp derpin' Collosus and Mech balls, and 1/1/1 rushes. Without NP, Zerg has absolutely no way of dealing with maxed P and T armies. You might as well be giving them a time limit on all their games. Once it hits twenty minutes, a Terran builds 6 Thors, or a Protoss builds 6 Collosus, the game auto-surrenders for the Zerg. Ridiculous change. I expect it to be reversed by tomorrow. | ||
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