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Since this whole topic degenerated into the usual balance flamefest where every topic ends up if unmoderated it's time for it to clean up. Locking this down for a while. Any posts made after my post [page 233] not addressing the changes in this patch directly and containting flames or general balance whine will get banned for at least a week. ~Nyovne There is way too much flaming in this thread right now. Calm down before you post! (Page 271) ~iamke55 | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On August 25 2011 21:19 SharkStarcraft wrote: Hmm... I dont like the infestor nerf, now that Zerg FINALLY could do something against the deathball, infestors get nerfed -.- Deathball dies to multipronged attacks, drops, and baneling drops. Infestors only help with one of those. They were never really the solution to the deathball. | ||
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arbitrageur
Australia1202 Posts
On August 25 2011 21:21 Yaotzin wrote: Deathball dies to multipronged attacks, drops, and baneling drops. Infestors only help with one of those. They were never really the solution to the deathball. That's your opinion. | ||
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UnholyRai
720 Posts
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Redfish
United States142 Posts
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Slakter
Sweden1947 Posts
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CaptainCrush
United States785 Posts
On August 25 2011 21:17 tdt wrote: Protoss need it. Basically slowing Zerg is all ins today and we all know what happens if you leave zerg alone. Terran has plenty of options but most Protoss' were nerfed out... VR WG, etc. Just want to point out that terran has not recieved a buff in many, many patches - if at all.... now protoss starts losing a couple games and then this? I think its a step in the wrong direction honestly... WG and Voids needed a nerf, they are both still viable options, just not overpowered anymore. And now with the hellion nerf, terran is basically forced to go rax units and ghosts against a toss every single game. Hellions wont be able to stand up to zealots any more... And what the heck is the additional 5 sec build time on teh rax for? Could that really have been affecting anything? About the only thing I agree with in this patch is the fungal growth damage. | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
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Highways
Australia6098 Posts
Was hoping for an EMP nerf though, in particular taking all the Protoss shields away. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
Okay...and its how like every pro stops it. | ||
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esre
Ireland109 Posts
On August 25 2011 21:11 TwilightRain wrote: I don't like the contamination cost increase , at least from the ZvZ perspective. I feel like it would eliminate possibilities for timing pushes as ways to come back. ZvZ would be even more boring than it is right now.  Dunno if its been mentioned but contamination is dearer beacuse its now cheaper to make mulitple overseers. . . | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
And pretty much any high-level zerg's. If you really think Infestors were the only reason zergs were figuring out ZvP, you're sorely mistaken. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On August 25 2011 21:21 Yaotzin wrote: Deathball dies to multipronged attacks, drops, and baneling drops. Infestors only help with one of those. They were never really the solution to the deathball. Also, ultra build time decrease helps a lot against death ball. After the first clash you can now remax with ultras. And ultras can be good against death ball aynway if used with fungal and baneling. | ||
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Sunrunner
United States80 Posts
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JanBanan
Norway29 Posts
45 sec is 5 more than ghost and 10 less than ultralisk. 40 would be nice. Also they can nerf the grenade thing to 25 or something. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On August 25 2011 21:25 Redox wrote: Also, ultra build time decrease helps a lot against death ball. After the first clash you can now remax with ultras. And ultras can be good against death ball aynway if used with fungal and baneling. OTOH immortals are more attractive to toss and we all know what they do to ultralisks ^_^ PvZ will continue to be very topsy turvy as people come up with new builds, I predict. | ||
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Aldin_D2x
Canada55 Posts
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AdrianHealey
Belgium480 Posts
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sjschmidt93
United States2518 Posts
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ZnyX
Denmark44 Posts
On August 25 2011 21:21 Yaotzin wrote: Deathball dies to multipronged attacks, drops, and baneling drops. Infestors only help with one of those. They were never really the solution to the deathball. Infesters aren't really nerfed against the deathball. Armored targets take 0.8 less damage after patch, i dont see why zergs cry. Its just simplified, i like it. Marines also still die in 2 fungals, so it wont make "that" much difference. | ||
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