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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
A maxed Terran off 3 base cannot win like this unless going mech, and obviously Zerg needs map presence to come close to winning. Basically, Protoss is considered the easy race because they have the best late game army and find it difficult to move out on the map. This results in every win for the Protoss "omg easy race no multitask no scouting no map control" and every loss for the Protoss "omg I out multitasked you so bad you suck so much you skilless turtling retarded Protoss" | ||
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rycho
United States360 Posts
On August 11 2011 05:12 DannyJ wrote: Macro is obviously the easiest, there's less ways to flat out die, A-moving is far more successful compared to other races. hahaha is this a serious post? god you people | ||
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mustache
Switzerland309 Posts
Apart from that they also have the easiest to control lategame army in the sense that you can often a-move the colossus deathball in every matchup and have quite some success. And of course the macro is easier because of the frequency you have to build units. i.e you only have to "macro" half as much as the other player. 1 zealot instead of building 2 marines etc. This holds true compared to zerg more than terran i belive This all makes for a very begginer friendly race, it evens up pretty fast though. | ||
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Mortal
2943 Posts
On August 11 2011 05:14 HentaiPrime wrote: ![[image loading]](http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/starcraft-ii/171927d1305652662-protoss-strategies-replays-protosskeyboardsmul4.jpg) and ![[image loading]](http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/starcraft-ii/171928d1305652662-protoss-strategies-replays-forcefield.jpg) now you're set! that's why i play protoss, zerg is way too hard and terran tank positioning is too much for me same thing could be done for terran except it's A, D, T, S. let's not start the "lol it's a 1a race" discussion, as that's not at all what the thread is about. you can 1a with any race, it's how you stray away from it that shows skill, and it's why people are getting away from colossus and roach/hydra specifically. as mechanics get better, people will use spellcasters more effectively, netting them higher cost efficiency. | ||
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Bluerain
United States348 Posts
imo, it takes relatively little skill to become a gold/platinum protoss player. just macro up and make a stalker/collosi ball with some sentries and a move and force field a couple times. of course at pro levels, i think skill requirement is relatively the same for all races. | ||
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
On August 11 2011 05:12 DannyJ wrote: Macro is obviously the easiest, there's less ways to flat out die, A-moving is far more successful compared to other races. Macro is actually easiest with zerg imo. Larva stacks so if you miss using it it saves up unlike for Protoss or Terran. I think decision making is hardest fro Zerg and easiest for Protoss and micro is obviously hardest for Protoss. Terran is kind of a middle ground with hard macro and prettyb easy micro. Terran definately needs most multitasking tho and Protoss needs kind of little of that. | ||
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shivren
Poland22 Posts
I would actually disagree. I tried toss for a while and found out it's an extremely micro heavy race therefore it's not really for me. | ||
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Soluhwin
United States1287 Posts
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Mesha
Bosnia-Herzegovina439 Posts
Anyway, to play the race at high level there is no easy or hard race, because, once you have the mechanics of a race - strategy and talent and skill comes in action and then it doesn't really matter how 'easy' or 'hard' is a race to play with. | ||
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Rah
United States973 Posts
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akaname
United Kingdom599 Posts
i'm Protoss. Zerg is definitely the hardest race at my levels (gold-platinum). Evidence: a) players have to have a deeper understanding of economy and when you can drone/expand/etc b) when i play as them as random my APM is 10 higher easily c) their macro mechanic is more punishing, you miss the inject you lose your chance. am actually happier that fungal is becoming popular, as it is an ability that requires less skill for what it does, helping zerg catch up! complaining terrans, on the other hand, haven't got a leg to stand on. /IMHO: edit: On August 11 2011 05:15 oskarla wrote: Macro is actually easiest with zerg imo. Larva stacks so if you miss using it it saves up unlike for Protoss or Terran. hmm interesting never thought about it that way | ||
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TehForce
1072 Posts
Learning with Terran: - Lots of Hotkeys and or tabbing required. - Constant production needs a lot of focus (e.g. 5ss4aad3sTABdd) - No Auto-Defense-Building. (Except Planetary, also not for air) - Need to learn Stop&Go Firing Learning with Zerg: - Injections are very hard to pull off - You need battle micro, so your lings dont run into hellions and roaches not into marauder - Need to learn A LOT to defend all one base cheeses you will encounter. - Larva management is something you have to learn which is vastly a different mechanic than the other races Learning with Protoss: - Convient warp-in mechanic with W as standard hotkey. In most (beginner) games you only need this hotkey, one for nexus and maybe another one for robo/stargate. - Deathball. A-Move is all you need - Cannons which defends against Air/Ground/Invisible - Easiest Beginner Builds (4Gate) - Most forgivible macro mechanic (chrono boost. nobody needs that at the start) This doesn't mean that protoss is the easiest to play, but just the easiest to begin with. | ||
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DeepBlu2
United States975 Posts
 Also, an important note: I'm left handed, protoss feels nicer as a left handed. as a Zerg player, i wish i wasn't left handed quite often as I'm forced to do a quite bad injection method. | ||
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Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
Of course easy at the start doesn't mean easy to master as Protoss has plenty of room for complexity with chrono boost timings, micro, and sim city. Also, I don't think you can peg this on IdrA, BW protoss is also generally considered the easier race to pick up. | ||
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acrimoneyius
United States983 Posts
This isn't a subject relevant to the highest levels of play, just mid-master and below IMO. | ||
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Fiercegore
United States294 Posts
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Treble557
United States221 Posts
On August 11 2011 05:15 oskarla wrote: Macro is actually easiest with zerg imo. Larva stacks so if you miss using it it saves up unlike for Protoss or Terran. I think decision making is hardest fro Zerg and easiest for Protoss and micro is obviously hardest for Protoss. Terran is kind of a middle ground with hard macro and prettyb easy micro. Terran definately needs most multitasking tho and Protoss needs kind of little of that. Larva stacking means missed units. You may get the larva from the queens, but you miss out on 1-2 units per cycle you're letting sit there like that, which when calculating per hatch, can wind up being alotta units missed. Just like when you miss cycles with warp gates, you can still spam a bunch of em and make a ton of units, but you're still missing out on units you coulda potentially had by macroing properly. | ||
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Sky0
United States214 Posts
B. They have very strong 1 base and 2 base pushes that are easy to learn and easy execute against the average to good player . (I.E. 4 gate, 3 gate robo, 3 gate vr, 3 gate dt rush, 6 gate , 2 base collossi push) C. simple micro might seem easy from higher level players but lack of micro and army control against toss cant flat out make the fight seem totally unfair (I.E. kiting chargelots, dodging storms,marine control vs VR , etc) Toss is indeed an A move race till you get to a higher level of play where there competition begins to micro armys effectively | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
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