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On September 19 2011 08:59 PaPoolee wrote:Read the PM i sent you, it's not Maphack, it's just a recent bug that was discovered on Tal'darim alter where you could see the position of the zerg without scouting, simply look at the tree behind his mineral line (the one he was looking at in the replay) and if it moves that means the Z is there, if it doesn't then check the other bases! it's not maphack. EDIT: Omg I can't believe ToT was confirmed maphacker, that guy is the #1 in my division, always steals my #1 spot  gotta watch out for him now lol.
Yeah the top right spot on Taldarim can easily be told if its zerg or not. It was listed on a bug on the blizzard forums
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On September 17 2011 09:48 NineteenSC2 wrote:Server: NA Your Name : Nineteen Hacker Name : chOice Replay : http://www.filesonic.com/file/2015835584/chOice_hacking.SC2ReplayDescription: Seems to be production tab hacking. Take a look at his tech structures, he puts down a baneling nest, I see it and put down 3 cannons and there's no baneling bust. After, he puts down a spire, I scout it and put 3 cannons at each mineral line + tech blink, and he decides to not make any mutalisks. Instead, immediately puts down an infestation pit and a roach warren. I'm a grandmaster protoss, and no zerg is stupid enough to get every single tech building on a lair, it's just very inefficient. On top of all this his first overlord was not directed to any base, but rather, just to his natural. Another point to note, when you're playing high level games a zerg ALWAYS sends in an overlord into the protoss base around 7-8 minutes in. This person NEVER cares to scout me, not a single overlord, overseer, or even a zergling or drone past my naturals cannon defense. Even when I decide to push out with my collo stalker army and take the top xel naga tower, he didn't even care to take a look at my composition. If you say he made the spire to counter collosi, why didnt he make corrupters when he noticed them? A little bit too fishy. Please ban.
Nothing fishy. He may throw down alternate tech for one of two reasons a) he knows he is way ahead of you because you spent waaaay too much money and cut too many probes doing your early shinanigans and he got 3 bases up quick, or b) because he knows you scouted the spire with the obs. Him seeing the air ripple because of your observer is enough to tip him off to not make mutalisks.
Looks to me like you're just a sore loser. Don't cry hack every game you lose?
Also, your recount of what happens is flawed. He puts down alternative tech long before you put cannons in your mineral line. You just saw spire and made a big assumption. Come on, you yourself said you are in grandmasters - yet you don't think players can't see an observer floating by?
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On September 19 2011 17:39 Gnial wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2011 09:48 NineteenSC2 wrote:Server: NA Your Name : Nineteen Hacker Name : chOice Replay : http://www.filesonic.com/file/2015835584/chOice_hacking.SC2ReplayDescription: Seems to be production tab hacking. Take a look at his tech structures, he puts down a baneling nest, I see it and put down 3 cannons and there's no baneling bust. After, he puts down a spire, I scout it and put 3 cannons at each mineral line + tech blink, and he decides to not make any mutalisks. Instead, immediately puts down an infestation pit and a roach warren. I'm a grandmaster protoss, and no zerg is stupid enough to get every single tech building on a lair, it's just very inefficient. On top of all this his first overlord was not directed to any base, but rather, just to his natural. Another point to note, when you're playing high level games a zerg ALWAYS sends in an overlord into the protoss base around 7-8 minutes in. This person NEVER cares to scout me, not a single overlord, overseer, or even a zergling or drone past my naturals cannon defense. Even when I decide to push out with my collo stalker army and take the top xel naga tower, he didn't even care to take a look at my composition. If you say he made the spire to counter collosi, why didnt he make corrupters when he noticed them? A little bit too fishy. Please ban. Nothing fishy. He may throw down alternate tech for one of two reasons a) he knows he is way ahead of you because you spent waaaay too much money and cut too many probes doing your early shinanigans and he got 3 bases up quick, or b) because he knows you scouted the spire with the obs. Him seeing the air ripple because of your observer is enough to tip him off to not make mutalisks. Looks to me like you're just a sore loser. Don't cry hack every game you lose? Also, your recount of what happens is flawed. He puts down alternative tech long before you put cannons in your mineral line. You just saw spire and made a big assumption. Come on, you yourself said you are in grandmasters - yet you don't think players can't see an observer floating by?
To add to this, Nineteen has accused other people of maphacking in this thread. So far noone has really commented on that other replay either.
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On September 19 2011 17:27 Itallion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 08:59 PaPoolee wrote:On September 19 2011 08:55 Lanki wrote:Server: AM Your Name: SouperiorOne Hacker Name: Grandmaster Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/13263Description: Maphacking. Very short replay that tells it all. Just look at his vision at the very start of the game and you'll see. Read the PM i sent you, it's not Maphack, it's just a recent bug that was discovered on Tal'darim alter where you could see the position of the zerg without scouting, simply look at the tree behind his mineral line (the one he was looking at in the replay) and if it moves that means the Z is there, if it doesn't then check the other bases! it's not maphack. EDIT: Omg I can't believe ToT was confirmed maphacker, that guy is the #1 in my division, always steals my #1 spot gotta watch out for him now lol. Yeah the top right spot on Taldarim can easily be told if its zerg or not. It was listed on a bug on the blizzard forums
Did you read anything or even watch the replay? Your one of the main reason why this thread has lost respect, please mods, take a look at all of itallions posts in this thread. Itallion, do you even read what you write?
Patch 1.3.0 dated 22nd of March provided a fix
--> Fixed an issue with creep destroying more foliage than it should, and made foliage destruction by creep faster.
Further a user points out later that this is incase the fact and that grandmaster, if for some reason abused the bug did not even take a look at any of the bases for foilage.
There is only one grandmaster on NA with the name spelled like that, he is a 83% master Terran player, thus making this even more suspicious that he would do this as protoss at a diamond level (indicative of the user wanting to reach master faster)
I took a look at all of your posts in this thread and have seen why maybe this thread has lost respect, you are a huge troll
if anyone is curious to the post I am referring to
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Read the PM i sent you, it's not Maphack, it's just a recent bug that was discovered on Tal'darim alter where you could see the position of the zerg without scouting, simply look at the tree behind his mineral line (the one he was looking at in the replay) and if it moves that means the Z is there, if it doesn't then check the other bases! it's not maphack.
EDIT: Omg I can't believe ToT was confirmed maphacker, that guy is the #1 in my division, always steals my #1 spot gotta watch out for him now lol.[/QUOTE]
also more proof of you posting without watching anything , in your last post you stated nineteen has accused other people in the thread, thus making his word considered more or less "to be taken without much consideration" yet you are not even close to reluctant to apply a different standard to other people who accuse everyone.
If you had watched that replay you would have known why the zerg is not a hacker but instead, you decide to stir up drama through your troll comments, not once have I seen you post a replay analysis but instead I see you post drama filled, flame baiting comments which you have been warned for before.
Please maintain the high quality and standard set by previous seasons, it is beyond evident that the mods are busy with other things and cannot respond fast enough, save them the time of looking through stuff such as posts like yours, instead provide detailed replay analysis with a conclusion.
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@Subcooled: This thread is below any criticism since the Deezer/Lone replay anyways. It became a trollfest. We should have stricter rules and harsher punishments about what can you post here and what - not. This is supposed to be a serious thread, because what we do is play investigators and judges. I liked it, but I will wait for a clean season 4 thread to start again.
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On September 19 2011 20:31 Subcooled wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 17:27 Itallion wrote:On September 19 2011 08:59 PaPoolee wrote:On September 19 2011 08:55 Lanki wrote:Server: AM Your Name: SouperiorOne Hacker Name: Grandmaster Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/13263Description: Maphacking. Very short replay that tells it all. Just look at his vision at the very start of the game and you'll see. Read the PM i sent you, it's not Maphack, it's just a recent bug that was discovered on Tal'darim alter where you could see the position of the zerg without scouting, simply look at the tree behind his mineral line (the one he was looking at in the replay) and if it moves that means the Z is there, if it doesn't then check the other bases! it's not maphack. EDIT: Omg I can't believe ToT was confirmed maphacker, that guy is the #1 in my division, always steals my #1 spot gotta watch out for him now lol. Yeah the top right spot on Taldarim can easily be told if its zerg or not. It was listed on a bug on the blizzard forums Did you read anything or even watch the replay? Your one of the main reason why this thread has lost respect, please mods, take a look at all of itallions posts in this thread. Itallion, do you even read what you write? Patch 1.3.0 dated 22nd of March provided a fix --> Fixed an issue with creep destroying more foliage than it should, and made foliage destruction by creep faster. Further a user points out later that this is incase the fact and that grandmaster, if for some reason abused the bug did not even take a look at any of the bases for foilage. There is only one grandmaster on NA with the name spelled like that, he is a 83% master Terran player, thus making this even more suspicious that he would do this as protoss at a diamond level (indicative of the user wanting to reach master faster) I took a look at all of your posts in this thread and have seen why maybe this thread has lost respect, you are a huge troll if anyone is curious to the post I am referring to -->
Read the PM i sent you, it's not Maphack, it's just a recent bug that was discovered on Tal'darim alter where you could see the position of the zerg without scouting, simply look at the tree behind his mineral line (the one he was looking at in the replay) and if it moves that means the Z is there, if it doesn't then check the other bases! it's not maphack.
EDIT: Omg I can't believe ToT was confirmed maphacker, that guy is the #1 in my division, always steals my #1 spot gotta watch out for him now lol.[/QUOTE]
also more proof of you posting without watching anything , in your last post you stated nineteen has accused other people in the thread, thus making his word considered more or less "to be taken without much consideration" yet you are not even close to reluctant to apply a different standard to other people who accuse everyone.
If you had watched that replay you would have known why the zerg is not a hacker but instead, you decide to stir up drama through your troll comments, not once have I seen you post a replay analysis but instead I see you post drama filled, flame baiting comments which you have been warned for before.
Please maintain the high quality and standard set by previous seasons, it is beyond evident that the mods are busy with other things and cannot respond fast enough, save them the time of looking through stuff such as posts like yours, instead provide detailed replay analysis with a conclusion. [/QUOTE]
Hey man I don't know why you're getting so defensive.
I provide my comments when neccesary. So based on your reasoning, only people you that you approve of can throw in their two cents.
This is after all a community post and not some elitist type thing that you and your friends are doing on their free time.
Hoping that a mod will come in and fix all this since all your doing man is making personal attacks while I actually point out key stuff.
And yes I watch the replays, sorry if they're not up to your methodical standards sir
I doubt people will take your posts seriously since you write troll stuff like this.
"I have to agree with what Deezer is saying here. His stream was openly removed from the stream list and was not publicly discussed and was privately resolved. From what I understand from people such as minigun and fayth, Deezer doesn't actually stream cheat just snipe which teamliquid has stated is "ok" not recommended but acceptable whereas stream cheating is not acceptable at all. Deezer's stream was removed because he is "bad mannered" which is an inconsistent decision. The streamlist is to be accurate to the growth of esports from what I personally understand. If Deezer has a fanbase that wants to watch his stream then why not allow his stream to be there?"
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Played with this dude in a team game, he was one of my allies... Was a couple of weeks ago, I forgot about it till now.
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Server: SEA
Your Name: Ryder
Hacker Name: Sacrum
Replay: http://drop.sc/35986
Description:
4:42 : says they are coming without seeing anything
5:17; pings minimap to tell us where to gather to meet enemy, despite fact he can't see they about to go up ramp
7:39: pings centre expansion despite no vision of them there
That is sorta iffy, but real evidence is here
9:03- says 'fucking banshee' despite none of us scouting anything (this was before a banshee was even on map, it was just in production)
9:34- my other partner asks 'how do you know'?
9:50- hacker scans EXACTLY where his starport in response to us asking how do you know. Keep in mind he scanned here 50 seconds AFTER saying banshees are on the way
At 10:00 I say cloak is on the way cause I saw it in scan.
Either way I think the banshee business makes it pretty obvious he was map hacking...
Is there a way to get this to blizz? I reported him but dunno if they actually did anything, despite replay proof...they never got back to me.
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On September 19 2011 17:26 Itallion wrote:
I don't know if I can agree completely with this one.
The 2 rax location is suspicious but I've seen even Grandmaster pros like VVVRuff take wild probability chances on his stream with proxy locations. It all comes down to whether the player is willing to cut corners or play safe.
Also throughout the entire replay the terran never even looks at the zerg's base or his army, I guess this could be that camera lock everything is talking about but there's no real point in the game where the terran is frozen into something for an extended period of time.
So I think this is inconclusive at best.
The terran doesnt need to look at the base army, he can see it on the minimap and there's pretty much nothing to fear from a zerg at this time of the game.
Also, camera-locking, checking, unlocking can happen in a 1sec windows, not every cheater is a braindead and some will actually not take their time.
It's completely obvious to me, feel free to disagree
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On September 19 2011 22:02 Ryder. wrote:Played with this dude in a team game, he was one of my allies... Was a couple of weeks ago, I forgot about it till now. FORMAT Server: SEA Your Name: Ryder Hacker Name: Sacrum Replay: http://drop.sc/35986Description: 4:42 : says they are coming without seeing anything 5:17; pings minimap to tell us where to gather to meet enemy, despite fact he can't see they about to go up ramp 7:39: pings centre expansion despite no vision of them there That is sorta iffy, but real evidence is here 9:03- says 'fucking banshee' despite none of us scouting anything (this was before a banshee was even on map, it was just in production) 9:34- my other partner asks 'how do you know'? 9:50- hacker scans EXACTLY where his starport in response to us asking how do you know. Keep in mind he scanned here 50 seconds AFTER saying banshees are on the way At 10:00 I say cloak is on the way cause I saw it in scan. Either way I think the banshee business makes it pretty obvious he was map hacking... Is there a way to get this to blizz? I reported him but dunno if they actually did anything, despite replay proof...they never got back to me. Just watched the replay, it's as obvious as it can get. Try to send a ticket via your battle.net Account.
https://eu.battle.net/support/de/ticket/submit for EU
https://us.battle.net/support/de/ticket/submit for US
Make sure to include a link to the replay.
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On September 19 2011 22:02 Ryder. wrote:Played with this dude in a team game, he was one of my allies... Was a couple of weeks ago, I forgot about it till now. FORMAT Server: SEA Your Name: Ryder Hacker Name: Sacrum Replay: http://drop.sc/35986Description: 4:42 : says they are coming without seeing anything 5:17; pings minimap to tell us where to gather to meet enemy, despite fact he can't see they about to go up ramp 7:39: pings centre expansion despite no vision of them there That is sorta iffy, but real evidence is here 9:03- says 'fucking banshee' despite none of us scouting anything (this was before a banshee was even on map, it was just in production) 9:34- my other partner asks 'how do you know'? 9:50- hacker scans EXACTLY where his starport in response to us asking how do you know. Keep in mind he scanned here 50 seconds AFTER saying banshees are on the way At 10:00 I say cloak is on the way cause I saw it in scan. Either way I think the banshee business makes it pretty obvious he was map hacking... Is there a way to get this to blizz? I reported him but dunno if they actually did anything, despite replay proof...they never got back to me.
This one is really obvious.
Just the banshee part alone was a dead give away. w/o scan or anything how could he know about it?
I'd report it or call blizzard about it.
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On September 19 2011 22:41 Protosnake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 17:26 Itallion wrote:
I don't know if I can agree completely with this one.
The 2 rax location is suspicious but I've seen even Grandmaster pros like VVVRuff take wild probability chances on his stream with proxy locations. It all comes down to whether the player is willing to cut corners or play safe.
Also throughout the entire replay the terran never even looks at the zerg's base or his army, I guess this could be that camera lock everything is talking about but there's no real point in the game where the terran is frozen into something for an extended period of time.
So I think this is inconclusive at best. The terran doesnt need to look at the base army, he can see it on the minimap and there's pretty much nothing to fear from a zerg at this time of the game. Also, camera-locking, checking, unlocking can happen in a 1sec windows, not every cheater is a braindead and some will actually not take their time. It's completely obvious to me, feel free to disagree
Good points, but I'm not sure what you mean about minimap looking. Is there like an indicator on hacks that shows different zerg units on the minimap? It could be drones moving around for all we know.
The camera lock thing, I don't know too much about how it works so I'll take your word for it. If it's as fast as you say the terran p could have seen everything coming in I guess
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On September 19 2011 17:27 Itallion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 08:59 PaPoolee wrote:On September 19 2011 08:55 Lanki wrote:Server: AM Your Name: SouperiorOne Hacker Name: Grandmaster Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/13263Description: Maphacking. Very short replay that tells it all. Just look at his vision at the very start of the game and you'll see. Read the PM i sent you, it's not Maphack, it's just a recent bug that was discovered on Tal'darim alter where you could see the position of the zerg without scouting, simply look at the tree behind his mineral line (the one he was looking at in the replay) and if it moves that means the Z is there, if it doesn't then check the other bases! it's not maphack. EDIT: Omg I can't believe ToT was confirmed maphacker, that guy is the #1 in my division, always steals my #1 spot gotta watch out for him now lol. Yeah the top right spot on Taldarim can easily be told if its zerg or not. It was listed on a bug on the blizzard forums
He said this guy didn't map hack but this guy sent a probe 5 seconds into the game WITHOUT Looking at any bases and sends it right to my natural to make proxies. The bug requires you to look at the bases yet this guy doesn't even look at them when he sent the probe at the very start of the game. He sends the probe top left of the map and doesn't even look at the "trees"
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Server:EU
Your Name: Despair
Hacker Name: Shape
Replay: http://drop.sc/36035 and http://drop.sc/36038
Description: Never scouts my base, looks at my base several times through fog of war. Awaits my reaper with 2 zerglings without ever scouting it. Waits for my BFH drop with zerglings without ever scouting it, multiple times. Around ~1min and ~7min notable timestamps, but pretty obvious from the replay that he's maphacking.
Edit: After finding someone else who played vs Shape on ladder aswell, I have attached a second replay
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Bah, I know he's already confirmed, but I will add another replay to his "repertoire" of maphack replays.
Server:NA
Your Name: Kitsune
Hacker Name: Fedaykin
Replay : http://drop.sc/36041
Description: Scouts cross spawn on Tal'darim. Right before my Probe has vision of his probe, he pulls his probe away and makes it look like his probe came from one of the side spawns. Later on, I teched to blink stalkers. He sends his army in his base right when I'm about to blink into his base. I saw he had no robotics facility, so I went Dark Shrine - he then proceeded to make his robotics a few seconds after my Dark Shrine started. At 19:30, he used guardian shield before having vision of my units near my 2nd natural. Shortly afteward, he killed my DTs on the way to his base. Although that's not a proof in itself since it was at his natural ramp, he did move his units toward them and surrounded them before his observer had vision of them. Finished me off when I was spending a bit on economy by setting up my 2nd expansion (with no prior scouting). About the scouting part, he didn't bother scouting once after his failed 4 gates.
This guy is so obviously maphacking, why is he still not banned? T_T
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On September 20 2011 01:31 Lanki wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 17:27 Itallion wrote:On September 19 2011 08:59 PaPoolee wrote:On September 19 2011 08:55 Lanki wrote:Server: AM Your Name: SouperiorOne Hacker Name: Grandmaster Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/13263Description: Maphacking. Very short replay that tells it all. Just look at his vision at the very start of the game and you'll see. Read the PM i sent you, it's not Maphack, it's just a recent bug that was discovered on Tal'darim alter where you could see the position of the zerg without scouting, simply look at the tree behind his mineral line (the one he was looking at in the replay) and if it moves that means the Z is there, if it doesn't then check the other bases! it's not maphack. EDIT: Omg I can't believe ToT was confirmed maphacker, that guy is the #1 in my division, always steals my #1 spot gotta watch out for him now lol. Yeah the top right spot on Taldarim can easily be told if its zerg or not. It was listed on a bug on the blizzard forums He said this guy didn't map hack but this guy sent a probe 5 seconds into the game WITHOUT Looking at any bases and sends it right to my natural to make proxies. The bug requires you to look at the bases yet this guy doesn't even look at them when he sent the probe at the very start of the game. He sends the probe top left of the map and doesn't even look at the "trees"
Isn't this what the camera "lock" feature supposed to do?
Some guy in another hack report mentioned it only takes 1 second to unlock/lock and check bases with the camera lock function.
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Server: EU
Your Name: amrojare
Hacker Name: OcSAlerion
Replay: http://up.servut.us/32663
Description: Even though I happened to win this one pretty convincingly I watched the replay. He spawns as (P) at 6 o'clock in Typhon Peaks. He checks my spawn location almost instantly. He does this couple of more times before even scouting my base.
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Hacker name: Lone
Screenshot: ![[image loading]](http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz276/bobby_978/Lone.jpg)
Here's the non-edited screenshot
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On September 21 2011 00:04 amrojare wrote:Server: EU Your Name: amrojare Hacker Name: OcSAlerion Replay: http://up.servut.us/32663Description: Even though I happened to win this one pretty convincingly I watched the replay. He spawns as (P) at 6 o'clock in Typhon Peaks. He checks my spawn location almost instantly. He does this couple of more times before even scouting my base.
Uhh, there is no 6 o clock spawn on typhon.. ?
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Server NA
Name - Craziekev
Hacker - LeahDizon
Replay - http://drop.sc/36728
Description - Weird Hack
Okay so I'm playing like I normally do. Have my control groups set 1 for scout 3 for nexus. I scout him going for a canon rush. I spot his probe and pylon and all hell breaks loose. I had no control of my mouse and keyboard. and then i had all my control groups set to probes and my nexus. I NEVER set those control groups and they appeared out of no where with my mouse clicking everywhere. I've played numerous games before this and one game after, nothing was wrong with my keyboard.
If there is a hack that allows you to take control of you opponents mouse and keyboard, then this guy just did it.
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Server EU
hacker: offlineAseK
replay: http://drop.sc/36789
description - map hack
This one is really ovious. Cross spawnposition on typhon peaks, he sends one of his starting probes to the right location immediately to build proxy gates. He did never actually check if that was the enemy players position.
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