What would happen in BW if you got 12 HT all on 1 hotkey and clicked storm somewhere. Would there be 12 storms in that 1 spot? It forces you to individually hotkey each caster?

BLinD-RawR

ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts

July 29 2011 08:58 GMT

#42

On July 29 2011 17:57 Zhalad wrote:
OP is a troll.....

cool it,he ain't no troll,just that the title is misleading.

DueSs

United States765 Posts

July 29 2011 08:58 GMT

#43

edit: self-nuke

zimms

Austria561 Posts

July 29 2011 08:58 GMT

#44

Seriously, if you have an issue with smart casting please address it as such. Why did you have to choose this exaggerated headline which hasn't anything to do with your problem.

Noone will comment on your arguments due to that.

Kipsate

Netherlands45349 Posts

July 29 2011 08:58 GMT

#45

On July 29 2011 17:57 Tachion wrote:
What would happen in BW if you got 12 HT all on 1 hotkey and clicked storm somewhere. Would there be 12 storms in that 1 spot? It forces you to individually hotkey each caster?

Yes, they will all storm the same spot, you can either hotkey or box your casters to do storms.

XenoX101

Australia729 Posts

July 29 2011 08:58 GMT

#46

Selecting spellcasters one by one in the middle of a fight is sometimes impossible and having a hotkey for each spellcaster is not at all practical. Moreover SC2 is already an esport and one single situational mechanic is not about to make or break the game. Try again.

BLinD-RawR

ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts

July 29 2011 08:59 GMT

#47

yep,its annyoing,but we use magic box on our casters.

On July 29 2011 17:58 XenoX101 wrote:
Selecting spellcasters one by one in the middle of a fight is sometimes impossible and having a hotkey for each spellcaster is not at all practical. Moreover SC2 is already an esport and one single situational mechanic is not about to make or break the game. Try again.

difficult yes,impossible no.

MonkSEA

Australia1227 Posts

July 29 2011 08:59 GMT

#48

So it doesn't take skill to cast a storm in sc2?

It's not exciting to see HuK cast like 8+ storms all over a bio army and watch nothing return alive?

It's not skill placing the storms and predicting where the Terrans army will walk off too?

Your post is just dumb.. Sorry man, any good fungal, storm, emp requires some type of skill, none of this "smart casting ruined sc2". You can't just 'be good' at the game when you pick it up. The games only been out for a year, give it some time before you bash on it. Remember it took blizzard 3 years to balance bw and it took roughly that many years to make it popular.

KeksX

Germany3634 Posts

July 29 2011 08:59 GMT

#49

I would really love to see that.
The OP has solid points,
not only would it increase the skill that has to be involved into the micro, but also spectators had another reason to get excited because it would be so awesome to watch.

I'm emberassed by the answers here. This really shows how immature parts of the community can be.
Yes it may not be "killing esports" or something like that but removing smartcasting would make the game a whole lot more exciting.

Instead of "ooh look he fungals the marines..again...and again..."
we would hear "HUGE FUNGALS OHMIGAD DID YOU SEE HOW HE TRAPPED THE MARINES WITH CHAINED FUNGALS AND DIDNT LOSE ANY INFESTORS AT ALL!?"

Address the content and not the way it is presented, yes it's a misleading title etc. but the points he states are actually pretty reasonable.

MilesTeg

France1271 Posts

July 29 2011 08:59 GMT

#50

On July 29 2011 17:41 thehitman wrote:
I will bet everyone that if smart casting was not available infestors would actually become balanced

I love how you managed to slip this in ^^

Zhalad

Australia231 Posts

July 29 2011 09:00 GMT

#51

On July 29 2011 17:58 BLinD-RawR wrote:

Show nested quote +

cool it,he ain't no troll,just that the title is misleading.

Obviously trying to start a BW vs SC2 argument again to me...

SC2 is a different game - the developers have stated this.
SC2 is also already an e-Sport.

Why come in here, and make generalised statements other than to start arguments... pointless thread.

Ksi

357 Posts

July 29 2011 09:01 GMT

#52

You're about 2 years late with this argument.

DtorR

Australia171 Posts

July 29 2011 09:01 GMT

#53

What you are saying isn't fair. Just because you feel that smart casting is imbalanced doesn't mean it will ruin e-sports. If you have a issue with certain units then find other ways to deal with it properly, people who cry imbalance are people who don't know how to problem solve or just plain raging/trolling.

Give the game a chance to develop over time then assess whether it should be an e-sport and bring proper evidence/references to back your claims.

Chronald

United States619 Posts

July 29 2011 09:01 GMT

#54

It is a eSport, you are talking about its success as one.

Honestly, I think that there is a massive micro ceiling in SC2 and we have yet to see even the slightest of sick plays.

Don't forget that the video you posted is from many years into BW's life span.

brachester

Australia1786 Posts

July 29 2011 09:02 GMT

#55

i agree with the op, but saying it can't be an e-sport is not right, more like it can never be as "mature" as its predecessor. People saying top players still making mistakes in sc2 and therefore, there's still a lot of skills cap to cover. To a certain extent this is true, but not entirely. Players who transition to sc2 are overall lower level players from bw and also sc2 pro teams generally have a much lower practice pressure, and come on, everyone makes mistakes. Also notice how volatile sc2 is? I doubt we gonna see anyone who's able to dominate the korean sc2 scene for more than 6 months, don;t even talk about being a new bonjwa for sc2. Why? Since the skills caps is much lower, lower level players will still have a much more chance in upseting the top players. Increasing the skill caps will reward the hardworking/talented players, not the lazy one, notice how tester is still in code S despite being lazy (not because he's playing bad, just that he''s still good by not practicing).

Diamond

United States10796 Posts

July 29 2011 09:03 GMT

#56

This comes up like once every 3 months. Smartcasting, MBS, etc are not the root of all evil and the skill cap of SCII is no where near figured out yet.

Also SC2 does not need to be BW to succeed. With smart casting, MBS, etc is is alreayd a larger INTERNATIONAL E-sport then BW. Korean maybe not, but it's obvious these things have not turned off the millions and millions of people that watch and play SCII every day.

DueSs

United States765 Posts

July 29 2011 09:03 GMT

#57

NOTE: Please read the full post before posting, I'm not trying to piss on SC2 and say there isn't e-sports happening. The title is there to just get people more interested in the thread and that SC2 would be better as an e-sports if it had smart casting removed.

So the content of your OP, according to the title of your thread, is

BuzzCraftTV

United States42 Posts

July 29 2011 09:03 GMT

#58

this is actually a legit troll post, iv seen this exact post several times befor, this will be the third time iv watched that storm video in this same thread, and its still awsome, and op is still wrong

imo, maps are the real problem, the maps just suck

Omegastorm

102 Posts

July 29 2011 09:04 GMT

#59

Hey douchebag..
Remember what you wrote in 1 year, when sc2 becomes the biggest e-sport ever.
Broodwar is old shit move on you jackass

User was temp banned for this post.

TheButtonmen

Canada1403 Posts

July 29 2011 09:04 GMT

#60

Oh hey yet another BW poster who would flip their table if we dared to post in their forum telling us why BW is so much better then SC2.

Thank you for your concern for our game esportsness, we will get right on canceling all the tournaments, leagues and fire all the player post haste.