Why SC2 can't be an e-sports - Page 4

On July 29 2011 18:03 DueSs wrote:


So the content of your OP, according to the title of your thread, is ?

On July 29 2011 18:02 brachester wrote:
i agree with the op, but saying it can't be an e-sport is not right, more like it can never be as "mature" as its predecessor. People saying top players still making mistakes in sc2 and therefore, there's still a lot of skills cap to cover. To a certain extent this is true, but not entirely. Players who transition to sc2 are overall lower level players from bw and also sc2 pro teams generally have a much lower practice pressure, and come on, everyone makes mistakes. Also notice how volatile sc2 is? I doubt we gonna see anyone who's able to dominate the korean sc2 scene for more than 6 months, don;t even talk about being a new bonjwa for sc2. Why? Since the skills caps is much lower, lower level players will still have a much more chance in upseting the top players. Increasing the skill caps will reward the hardworking/talented players, not the lazy one, notice how tester is still in code S despite being lazy (not because he's playing bad, just that he''s still good by not practicing).

NOTE: Please read the full post before posting, I'm not trying to piss on SC2 and say there isn't e-sports happening. The title is there to just get people more interested in the thread and that SC2 would be better as an e-sports if it had smart casting removed.


So the content of your OP, according to the title of your thread, is ?

On July 29 2011 17:59 MonkSEA wrote:
So it doesn't take skill to cast a storm in sc2?

It's not exciting to see HuK cast like 8+ storms all over a bio army and watch nothing return alive?

It's not skill placing the storms and predicting where the Terrans army will walk off too?

Your post is just dumb.. Sorry man, any good fungal, storm, emp requires some type of skill, none of this "smart casting ruined sc2". You can't just 'be good' at the game when you pick it up. The games only been out for a year, give it some time before you bash on it. Remember it took blizzard 3 years to balance bw and it took roughly that many years to make it popular.

On July 29 2011 17:51 Angra wrote:
Someone makes a well put together thread to discuss an interesting subject, and just because it's not raising SC2 up on a golden pedestal and raining praise all over it, people come in just to shit all over the thread. Typical.

Not saying I agree or disagree with his opinions, but you guys could at least discuss them in an intelligent fashion rather than the predictable ragefest at someone who thinks that the game could be improved in some way than its current state.

On July 29 2011 17:51 Angra wrote:
Someone makes a well put together thread to discuss an interesting subject, and just because it's not raising SC2 up on a golden pedestal and raining praise all over it, people come in just to shit all over the thread. Typical.

Not saying I agree or disagree with his opinions, but you guys could at least discuss them in an intelligent fashion rather than the predictable ragefest at someone who thinks that the game could be improved in some way than its current state.

On July 29 2011 18:05 mnck wrote:
You state that you can cast as good if not better storms and fungal than pros? I'd love to see you forcefield like MC does. Because almost no one forcefields with his precision. It's a very small differences in the way he does it compared to others, but if you understand the game you would realize that he does it with extreme precision and speed unlike no other protoss I've seen do consistently. It may not be as hard as it was in BW to cast spells, but it that doesn't change the fact that your average scrub can't match MC.

Every protoss match up, except mirror, is in fact is so dependent on forcefields you can easily spot a good protoss from a pro just by watching their forcefields. It may not be something obvious to the average spectator that some players get so much more out of their forcefields than others, but to me it's really what sets apart the good from the best.

tldr; You can't cast spells with the speed and precision of a progamer. So stop claiming to have this ability.

On July 29 2011 18:06 thehitman wrote:

You need to predict where he is going to move the army in Brood War as well and you couldn't just have 14 infestors in 1 control group and just ffffffffffffff kill whole armies.

On July 29 2011 18:11 KeksX wrote:

So you(not the personal you, talking in general here) have to respond with a shitstorm of trolls and flames and basically are not able to respond in an appropriate way? Oh wow, I never saw that.

Saying that we can't change the game to make it more exciting because it is what it is now is pretty..well.. stupid? Not saying it in a bad way, just can't think of another word. Why would making something better be bad?
If we actually can find solid arguments as to why something is good, why should that be a bad thing?

I for myself like the idea of removing smartcasting, I won't shitstorm if it doesn't happen but I'm just saying that I think that this would make the game more exciting.
Am I killing eSports now? Do people have the right to troll me now because of that opinion? I don't think so.
But sadly, this is what people do.