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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
July 04 2011 08:40 GMT
#61
On July 04 2011 17:40 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 17:39 ShadeR wrote:
In all seriousness a more appropriate question would be "Why play SC2?"


Maybe i should post that in the sc2 forums


Do it now!
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 08:41:25
July 04 2011 08:41 GMT
#62
Same reason I like all previous Final Fantasys more than Final Fantasy 13.
More depth, more fun, even if it's a little less pretty.

edit- I enjoy both, however.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
July 04 2011 08:41 GMT
#63
On July 04 2011 17:38 Nazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 17:37 kalany wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:32 kalany wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:29 setzer wrote:
Troll OP. Please close this, his only intention is to argue with people and make his points about how stupid people are to follow/play BW and not SC2.



What the heck?

Okay, the reason I ask this is because I have a solution to protect the livelihoods of pro BW players. I think I'll reveal it now because you guys are accusing me of things.


I think KESPA should contract a really good mapmaker and get him to recreate SCBW on SCII engine. Hence, the game improves graphically but the gameplay remains the same.


LOOOOOOOOOOOL



I really don't get it. Will recreating SCBW on SCII really destroy the integrity of the game? I've seen TLAttack where Sheth plays the BW maps on SCII and it seems like it has got a lot of potential. Everything from MBS to auto-mine can be disabled.


Or Blizzard could try harder with HotS.

HAHAHA
POGGERS
Lumire
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States607 Posts
July 04 2011 08:41 GMT
#64
On July 04 2011 17:40 puppykiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 17:40 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:39 ShadeR wrote:
In all seriousness a more appropriate question would be "Why play SC2?"


Maybe i should post that in the sc2 forums


Do it now!


Right now!
|| o.o
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 04 2011 08:41 GMT
#65
On July 04 2011 17:40 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 17:39 ShadeR wrote:
In all seriousness a more appropriate question would be "Why play SC2?"


Maybe i should post that in the sc2 forums

Follow it with an appropriate parallel like... Why have sex with a woman when you can masturbate?
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
July 04 2011 08:42 GMT
#66
On July 04 2011 17:37 kalany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 17:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:32 kalany wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:29 setzer wrote:
Troll OP. Please close this, his only intention is to argue with people and make his points about how stupid people are to follow/play BW and not SC2.



What the heck?

Okay, the reason I ask this is because I have a solution to protect the livelihoods of pro BW players. I think I'll reveal it now because you guys are accusing me of things.


I think KESPA should contract a really good mapmaker and get him to recreate SCBW on SCII engine. Hence, the game improves graphically but the gameplay remains the same.


LOOOOOOOOOOOL



I really don't get it. Will recreating SCBW on SCII really destroy the integrity of the game? I've seen TLAttack where Sheth plays the BW maps on SCII and it seems like it has got a lot of potential. Everything from MBS to auto-mine can be disabled.

There is no point in recreating SCBW on SC2. BW has been fine as it is for 13 years, despite your dislike of its graphics. Those 2 games should stay as separate games, and nothing else.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
July 04 2011 08:42 GMT
#67
On July 04 2011 17:41 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 17:40 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:39 ShadeR wrote:
In all seriousness a more appropriate question would be "Why play SC2?"


Maybe i should post that in the sc2 forums

Follow it with an appropriate parallel like... Why have sex with a woman when you can masturbate?


Why go to cook a burger when u can put a turd in a bun?
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
July 04 2011 08:43 GMT
#68
as idra put it: "the real game"
i type teamliquid into the url subconsciously... all...the...time...
kalany
Profile Joined June 2011
United States149 Posts
July 04 2011 08:43 GMT
#69

Just from this thread though it's pretty evident that there's a us vs. them dynamic between the BW and SCII community. I was surprised how much I was crucified for writing this topic. I really had no intentions of trolling anyone.

In the words of Rodney King, "Can we all just get along?"
"There is no spoon."
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
July 04 2011 08:44 GMT
#70
On July 04 2011 17:43 kalany wrote:

Just from this thread though it's pretty evident that there's a us vs. them dynamic between the BW and SCII community. I was surprised how much I was crucified for writing this topic. I really had no intentions of trolling anyone.

In the words of Rodney King, "Can we all just get along?"

it's the way you approached us, go back to your pretty game and reflect
POGGERS
dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
July 04 2011 08:44 GMT
#71
OP has demonstrated low level thinking and no understanding of BW. please go back to your forums
i type teamliquid into the url subconsciously... all...the...time...
Hekisui
Profile Joined May 2011
195 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 08:49:42
July 04 2011 08:44 GMT
#72
I would play SC2 if it wasn't noobified, didn't have all the Blizzard controls over maps/tournaments/servers, had lan latency, didn't have chunky unit input and unit acceleration/turning and didn't have annoying 3d graphics but something much clearer and more pleasant.

Right now the only thing SC2 has going for it is that it is fresh and new unit and strategy wise. Everything else is just inferior.

It is well known that many top foreigners dislike SC2. Idra, Nony, Ret, etc. They just play it because the SC2 scene is so big because SC2 is new.

Why is SC2 so popular now? Because of the graphics? It is basically the same gameplay concept. Because it is easier to play?
I don't understand why there's all these people blowing up the SC2 scene, throwing money at it and raving about how amazing RTS esports is. We had SC BW for 12 years and people outside Korea largely ignored it.
Why? Because of flashy graphics that serve nu purpose?

And recreating SC BW units in the SC2 engine would actually be the worst thing to do. Same SC2 flaws but now with the same old beaten to death units and strategy. Not to mention I wish SC BW was balanced across all skill levels.

Best would be to recreate SC2 in SC BW engine. But I still think Blizzard retained the wrong units and added new ones that aren't that great either. Sentry force field seemed to be the most creative and interesting new idea. But it actually turned out pretty annoying.
Lumire
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States607 Posts
July 04 2011 08:45 GMT
#73
On July 04 2011 17:42 puppykiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 17:41 ShadeR wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:40 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:39 ShadeR wrote:
In all seriousness a more appropriate question would be "Why play SC2?"


Maybe i should post that in the sc2 forums

Follow it with an appropriate parallel like... Why have sex with a woman when you can masturbate?


Why go to cook a burger when u can put a turd in a bun?


Why break your mouse when you can punch your brother?
|| o.o
Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
July 04 2011 08:47 GMT
#74
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ArcticVanguard
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States450 Posts
July 04 2011 08:47 GMT
#75
I play both and I enjoy Brood War Mutalisks, Siege Tanks, and Corsairs.
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." ~C.S. Lewis
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 08:48:57
July 04 2011 08:48 GMT
#76
On July 04 2011 17:45 One wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 17:42 puppykiller wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:41 ShadeR wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:40 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:39 ShadeR wrote:
In all seriousness a more appropriate question would be "Why play SC2?"


Maybe i should post that in the sc2 forums

Follow it with an appropriate parallel like... Why have sex with a woman when you can masturbate?


Why go to cook a burger when u can put a turd in a bun?


Why break your mouse when you can punch your brother?


Why take a bath when you can walk your dog?
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
July 04 2011 08:48 GMT
#77
Not many games that I know give me the kind of great feeling after you win the way Brood War does.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
kalany
Profile Joined June 2011
United States149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 08:50:23
July 04 2011 08:49 GMT
#78
On July 04 2011 17:44 Hekisui wrote:
I would play SC2 if it wasn't noobified, didn't have all the Blizzard controls over maps/tournaments/servers, had lan latency, didn't have chunky unit input and unit acceleration/turning and didn't have annoying 3d graphics but something much clearer and more pleasant.

Right now the only thing SC2 has going for it is that it is fresh and new unit and strategy wise. Everything else is just inferior.

It is well known that many top foreigners dislike SC2. Idra, Nony, Ret, etc. They just play it because the SC2 scene is so big because SC2 is new.

Why is SC2 so popular now? Because of the graphics? It is basically the same gameplay concept. Because it is easier to play?
I don't understand why there's all these people blowing up the SC2 scene, throwing money at it and raving about how amazing RTS esports is. We had SC BW for 12 years and people outside Korea largely ignored it.
Why? Because of flashy graphics that serve nu purpose?


I think the graphics are actually really important. It expands the viewer market to more than just those who understand the game thoroughly. In SCII, you can not understand what a 7rax all-in means but still enjoy the game visually because its aesthetically pleasing.

On July 04 2011 17:48 puppykiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 17:45 One wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:42 puppykiller wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:41 ShadeR wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:40 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:39 ShadeR wrote:
In all seriousness a more appropriate question would be "Why play SC2?"


Maybe i should post that in the sc2 forums

Follow it with an appropriate parallel like... Why have sex with a woman when you can masturbate?


Why go to cook a burger when u can put a turd in a bun?


Why break your mouse when you can punch your brother?


Why take a bath when you can walk your dog?


Who's trolling now..... -_-
"There is no spoon."
mansa
Profile Joined May 2011
Philippines336 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 08:50:48
July 04 2011 08:49 GMT
#79
Another SC2 player that never played BW post on BW forum with no idea about BW.

Graphics is not important in a game. Dwarf Fortress is one example of a game that is good because of its gameplay.
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 08:50:46
July 04 2011 08:49 GMT
#80
On July 04 2011 17:47 3xiLe wrote:
What I don't understand is how there aren't more SC2 players trying; or atleast watching BW after playing SC2 to see what it's like. Shouldn't be like reading the sequel of a book in a series first and wanting to read the prequel if you enjoyed it afterwards? I know we get a thread here every week on switching over from SC2 but to be honest, I'd expect a whole entire thread with hundreds of posts on discussion of beginning BW after playing SC2.

just my little rant.


Perhaps the majority of SC2 players are not that into SC2. Then again there are people who make fanclubs for relatively unknown (and pretty shit) players that happen to all kill one time.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
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