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dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
July 04 2011 09:00 GMT
#101
On July 04 2011 17:57 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 17:56 One wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:53 Jurassic wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:44 Hekisui wrote:
I would play SC2 if it wasn't noobified, didn't have all the Blizzard controls over maps/tournaments/servers, had lan latency, didn't have chunky unit input and unit acceleration/turning and didn't have annoying 3d graphics but something much clearer and more pleasant.

Right now the only thing SC2 has going for it is that it is fresh and new unit and strategy wise. Everything else is just inferior.

It is well known that many top foreigners dislike SC2. Idra, Nony, Ret, etc. They just play it because the SC2 scene is so big because SC2 is new.

Why is SC2 so popular now? Because of the graphics? It is basically the same gameplay concept. Because it is easier to play?
I don't understand why there's all these people blowing up the SC2 scene, throwing money at it and raving about how amazing RTS esports is. We had SC BW for 12 years and people outside Korea largely ignored it.
Why? Because of flashy graphics that serve nu purpose?


To be fair not every progamer thinks that way. From a recent interview with Nada:

"Q. What are your thoughts between SC1 and SC2

In SC2, the graphics are very nice and the overall mechanics of the game is easier so it’s easier to play, but because of that, each battle and strategy becomes more important. For example, many units in one control group tends to bunch up so you have to be careful to spread them in battle. As for strategy, there are many that just simply end the game if you are not prepared, so you have to be extremely careful, especially in the beginning of the game. What people say about early game scouting being difficult is true. However, through my vast experience, I have to predict by feel what my opponent’s strategy will be."

"Q. Many people consider TvT a matchup very similar to SC1, what are your thoughts on this?

No, I think it is much harder. With the added units like Banshees and Marauders, it is hard to find the right balance of units. In SCBW, it was a positional game like Go (the black and white board game), involving positional and mental battles, but in SC2 there is the added dimension of unit composition. I think that TvT, especially in SC2 is both dynamic and fun. Haha."

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=239760

PR dude...
"Poster boy" Nada wont go around in interviews telling his fans that watch him play sc2 that its a shitty game...

He's just a little upset that he's no longer the undisputed BW GOAT =/. Cheer up Nada.


LOL i like how it says BW TvT is not as hard and then compares it to Go.
i type teamliquid into the url subconsciously... all...the...time...
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
July 04 2011 09:00 GMT
#102
On July 04 2011 17:58 puppykiller wrote:
This thread is getting me properly fired up for SKT vs CJ Code A RO8. THANKS OP GRAPHICS!


YES I LOVE WATCHING TVT
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
July 04 2011 09:00 GMT
#103
Good lord, people.

[image loading]
Meh
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
July 04 2011 09:04 GMT
#104
On July 04 2011 17:53 Jurassic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 17:44 Hekisui wrote:
I would play SC2 if it wasn't noobified, didn't have all the Blizzard controls over maps/tournaments/servers, had lan latency, didn't have chunky unit input and unit acceleration/turning and didn't have annoying 3d graphics but something much clearer and more pleasant.

Right now the only thing SC2 has going for it is that it is fresh and new unit and strategy wise. Everything else is just inferior.

It is well known that many top foreigners dislike SC2. Idra, Nony, Ret, etc. They just play it because the SC2 scene is so big because SC2 is new.

Why is SC2 so popular now? Because of the graphics? It is basically the same gameplay concept. Because it is easier to play?
I don't understand why there's all these people blowing up the SC2 scene, throwing money at it and raving about how amazing RTS esports is. We had SC BW for 12 years and people outside Korea largely ignored it.
Why? Because of flashy graphics that serve nu purpose?


To be fair not every progamer thinks that way. From a recent interview with Nada:

"Q. What are your thoughts between SC1 and SC2

In SC2, the graphics are very nice and the overall mechanics of the game is easier so it’s easier to play, but because of that, each battle and strategy becomes more important. For example, many units in one control group tends to bunch up so you have to be careful to spread them in battle. As for strategy, there are many that just simply end the game if you are not prepared, so you have to be extremely careful, especially in the beginning of the game. What people say about early game scouting being difficult is true. However, through my vast experience, I have to predict by feel what my opponent’s strategy will be."

"Q. Many people consider TvT a matchup very similar to SC1, what are your thoughts on this?

No, I think it is much harder. With the added units like Banshees and Marauders, it is hard to find the right balance of units. In SCBW, it was a positional game like Go (the black and white board game), involving positional and mental battles, but in SC2 there is the added dimension of unit composition. I think that TvT, especially in SC2 is both dynamic and fun. Haha."

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=239760


Nada retired before the current TvT metagame change. I thought sc2 is more about positioning since there are no units(other than tanks) that can hold an area and highground advantage is bullshit.

"strategy, there are many that just simply end the game if you are not prepared"

This, shows that game design is flawed somewhere alright. What happened to defender advantage?
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 09:07:26
July 04 2011 09:07 GMT
#105

This, shows that game design is flawed somewhere alright. What happened to defender advantage?


Warpgate happened
Cackle™
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 09:11:07
July 04 2011 09:07 GMT
#106
On July 04 2011 18:00 dangots0ul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 17:57 ShadeR wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:56 One wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:53 Jurassic wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:44 Hekisui wrote:
I would play SC2 if it wasn't noobified, didn't have all the Blizzard controls over maps/tournaments/servers, had lan latency, didn't have chunky unit input and unit acceleration/turning and didn't have annoying 3d graphics but something much clearer and more pleasant.

Right now the only thing SC2 has going for it is that it is fresh and new unit and strategy wise. Everything else is just inferior.

It is well known that many top foreigners dislike SC2. Idra, Nony, Ret, etc. They just play it because the SC2 scene is so big because SC2 is new.

Why is SC2 so popular now? Because of the graphics? It is basically the same gameplay concept. Because it is easier to play?
I don't understand why there's all these people blowing up the SC2 scene, throwing money at it and raving about how amazing RTS esports is. We had SC BW for 12 years and people outside Korea largely ignored it.
Why? Because of flashy graphics that serve nu purpose?


To be fair not every progamer thinks that way. From a recent interview with Nada:

"Q. What are your thoughts between SC1 and SC2

In SC2, the graphics are very nice and the overall mechanics of the game is easier so it’s easier to play, but because of that, each battle and strategy becomes more important. For example, many units in one control group tends to bunch up so you have to be careful to spread them in battle. As for strategy, there are many that just simply end the game if you are not prepared, so you have to be extremely careful, especially in the beginning of the game. What people say about early game scouting being difficult is true. However, through my vast experience, I have to predict by feel what my opponent’s strategy will be."

"Q. Many people consider TvT a matchup very similar to SC1, what are your thoughts on this?

No, I think it is much harder. With the added units like Banshees and Marauders, it is hard to find the right balance of units. In SCBW, it was a positional game like Go (the black and white board game), involving positional and mental battles, but in SC2 there is the added dimension of unit composition. I think that TvT, especially in SC2 is both dynamic and fun. Haha."

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=239760

PR dude...
"Poster boy" Nada wont go around in interviews telling his fans that watch him play sc2 that its a shitty game...

He's just a little upset that he's no longer the undisputed BW GOAT =/. Cheer up Nada.


LOL i like how it says BW TvT is not as hard and then compares it to Go.


Go is a scrub game, Marauders are where it's at.

On July 04 2011 18:07 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +

This, shows that game design is flawed somewhere alright. What happened to defender advantage?


Warpgate happened


Warpgate, and close-clump pathfinding, and no high ground miss percentage, and entrenching/slow units generally got nerfed or removed while faster units got buffed.
My strategy is to fork people.
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
July 04 2011 09:08 GMT
#107
gonna disregard the content of this thread for now and just answer your question, because I CAN'T STOP! I've tried for years to quit scbw but every time I come back and fall in love with the game again.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 09:12:04
July 04 2011 09:09 GMT
#108
Like everyone else I was excited as hell about SCII. But then Blizzard started acting weird. Paying people to advertize illegaly to promote SCII in Korea, constant updates, trying to kill the BW scene, no chatrooms until forever later. I'm sure it's a fun game - I just couldn't care less. Also - GOM really should have FREE HD streams & VODs. You're trying to ESTABLISH a scene - leave it free for a while at least. If I hear about a cool play I might check it out if it's accessible. Also - the BW leagues are way more exciting than the SCII ones. TSL3 was the high point of SCII so far. Really Blizzard / GOM, you can't outshine an online tournament? No wonder they're trying to get good with OGN /MBC and let them host SC2 tournaments.

TLDR: SCII is still like late game TvT in BW. Two armies circle each other. One clash. GG.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
July 04 2011 09:10 GMT
#109
Because its awesome and fun to play and watch. It has better graphics than SC2 (yes, in fact 2D is much better for rts than 3D, plus BW graphics are more "mature")

and there are so much more things that are making BW a much better game (the best esport ever) than SC2 atm.

Thats why im gonna wait till all the expansion sets for SC2 are going to be released and see whats going to happen then

hopefully we all gonna switch to BW again ;P
T H C makes ppl happy
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
July 04 2011 09:13 GMT
#110
There is lots of reasons why i play BW.

First of all as many said its fun and its challenging to play with simple and clean graphics that are easy on the eye. The only game that I've played for over 5 years and never get bored playing it. Watching pros playing BW is entertaing and more fun than playing and at last my PC is kinda crappy so it runs BW with no problems.

And why is SC2 even mentioned in this thread? This is not about SC2 vs BW gtfo trolls.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
July 04 2011 09:16 GMT
#111
On July 04 2011 18:13 SkelA wrote:
There is lots of reasons why i play BW.

First of all as many said its fun and its challenging to play with simple and clean graphics that are easy on the eye. The only game that I've played for over 5 years and never get bored playing it. Watching pros playing BW is entertaing and more fun than playing and at last my PC is kinda crappy so it runs BW with no problems.

And why is SC2 even mentioned in this thread? This is not about SC2 vs BW gtfo trolls.


Did you read the poll? BW vs SC2 was clearly the OP's intent.
I drop suckas like Plinko
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3126 Posts
July 04 2011 09:16 GMT
#112
On July 04 2011 17:40 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 17:39 ShadeR wrote:
In all seriousness a more appropriate question would be "Why play SC2?"


Maybe i should post that in the sc2 forums


Done

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240229
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
The_Piper42
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States426 Posts
July 04 2011 09:16 GMT
#113
Because I'm poor and haven't bought SC2 yet. And even after I do there are some things about SC:BW I really like that SC2 lacks so I might go back and play BW for nostalgia's sake.
Boxer, White-Ra, Grubby, Flash fighting!
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
July 04 2011 09:17 GMT
#114
On July 04 2011 18:16 puppykiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 17:40 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:39 ShadeR wrote:
In all seriousness a more appropriate question would be "Why play SC2?"


Maybe i should post that in the sc2 forums


Done

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240229


The sad thing is, that thread will be closed before this one is.
I drop suckas like Plinko
Rhaegar99
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Australia1190 Posts
July 04 2011 09:19 GMT
#115
On July 04 2011 18:17 Gann1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 18:16 puppykiller wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:40 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:39 ShadeR wrote:
In all seriousness a more appropriate question would be "Why play SC2?"


Maybe i should post that in the sc2 forums


Done

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240229


The sad thing is, that thread will be closed before this one is.


Something even sadder is that you actually went ahead with this
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66158 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 09:20:40
July 04 2011 09:19 GMT
#116
On July 04 2011 18:17 Gann1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 18:16 puppykiller wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:40 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:39 ShadeR wrote:
In all seriousness a more appropriate question would be "Why play SC2?"


Maybe i should post that in the sc2 forums


Done

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240229


The sad thing is, that thread will be closed before this one is.

i agree, SC2 is more important for TL anyway, it's the sad truth


On July 04 2011 18:19 Rhaegar99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 18:17 Gann1 wrote:
On July 04 2011 18:16 puppykiller wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:40 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:39 ShadeR wrote:
In all seriousness a more appropriate question would be "Why play SC2?"


Maybe i should post that in the sc2 forums


Done

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240229


The sad thing is, that thread will be closed before this one is.


Something even sadder is that you actually went ahead with this


makes us seem like bad people lol the responses aren't very funny in that thread
POGGERS
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 04 2011 09:20 GMT
#117
Lol i will watch that thread from a distance i dare not venture in though.
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 09:23:16
July 04 2011 09:22 GMT
#118
On July 04 2011 18:19 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 18:17 Gann1 wrote:
On July 04 2011 18:16 puppykiller wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:40 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:39 ShadeR wrote:
In all seriousness a more appropriate question would be "Why play SC2?"


Maybe i should post that in the sc2 forums


Done

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240229


The sad thing is, that thread will be closed before this one is.

i agree, SC2 is more important for TL anyway, it's the sad truth


Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 18:19 Rhaegar99 wrote:
On July 04 2011 18:17 Gann1 wrote:
On July 04 2011 18:16 puppykiller wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:40 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:39 ShadeR wrote:
In all seriousness a more appropriate question would be "Why play SC2?"


Maybe i should post that in the sc2 forums


Done

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240229


The sad thing is, that thread will be closed before this one is.


Something even sadder is that you actually went ahead with this


makes us seem like bad people lol the responses aren't very funny in that thread


SC2 people dont joke. Its all about the ESPORTS. And ESPORTS is serious shit.
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
July 04 2011 09:23 GMT
#119
On July 04 2011 17:48 puppykiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2011 17:45 One wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:42 puppykiller wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:41 ShadeR wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:40 Black[CAT] wrote:
On July 04 2011 17:39 ShadeR wrote:
In all seriousness a more appropriate question would be "Why play SC2?"


Maybe i should post that in the sc2 forums

Follow it with an appropriate parallel like... Why have sex with a woman when you can masturbate?


Why go to cook a burger when u can put a turd in a bun?


Why break your mouse when you can punch your brother?


Why take a bath when you can walk your dog?


Too good.

Man this thread was good for a few laughs. OP's strategy: Make a thread about BW being a game for lepers -> Announce the cure for leprosy is to stop being a leper and start being healthy -> Profit?..
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 09:28:31
July 04 2011 09:24 GMT
#120
god damn. the OP is so naive its irritating. I had a large flame post that i omitted largely because i would get banned.

I don't play BW anymore (too little people, im falling behind, school, im using Win7, etc) but, i can argue that it is a much much much better game than SC2 and i would play it if the crowd was larger (yeah theres a large Korean population but hey, im not as good as them :l). I did get SC2, and i do play it from time to time with friends if possible but thats really it. Unlike BW when i got into it, i played it every day (I would be one of those Custom/UMS gamers playing Cat n Mouse all day and Fastest/BGH! in my first year online). There were hackers, and faggots everywhere on battle.net but that didnt stop me from having a ton of fun. Maybe a crucial part of the BW experience was the chat channels. i dont know but i realize i loved the interface.

Really, even I dont know why i love the game so much, but i can tell you why i dont like SC2. Its not the easier mechanics, i think thats fine (cept MBS and tabbing unit spells) but the main problem is how unappealing the game turned out to be (aka Blizzard's management on the game). What happened to all the cool strategies and perks that blizzard offered us back 3 FUCKING YEARS AGO??? Why is it that the only troll unit is the Mothership? Why dont we have a starbase? Where is the advanced interface that battle.net 2.0 promised? Why do the custom maps suck ass? Why are the maps flooded with rocks?

Thats just some of the problems

Also SC2 is boring to watch. sorry. being a BW player, my expectations of a good game are significantly higher

On July 04 2011 18:13 SkelA wrote:
There is lots of reasons why i play BW.

First of all as many said its fun and its challenging to play with simple and clean graphics that are easy on the eye. The only game that I've played for over 5 years and never get bored playing it. Watching pros playing BW is entertaing and more fun than playing and at last my PC is kinda crappy so it runs BW with no problems.

And why is SC2 even mentioned in this thread? This is not about SC2 vs BW gtfo trolls.

I wish. He was just so naive and brought up SC2 half way through the thread

"From a SCII player's perspective, I don't get it and I would like to understand the reasons why you guys still play BW rather than SCII. "

What is this shit. this is directly fro mthe OP
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