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ammeL
Profile Joined August 2009
United States211 Posts
July 01 2011 04:47 GMT
#141
On July 01 2011 11:08 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 11:01 ammeL wrote:
Whatever happened, happened. Things happen for a reason. iCCUP has their points, Game has his. No one is going to win in this battle, it seems. It seems iCCUP's decision is permanent (since IPBans were made).

This is how I see it:
If Game wanted to charge for replays, which he indicated to the public on March 31st (as he had created a thread back then saying he could charge for replays), I don't see the big deal. Actually, if anything, it's a good thing. He mentioned that the proceeds would be going to the next big tournament. That's a good thing, isn't it? That means it'd be a bigger tournament, draw more attention, and there would be more Brood War activity. All of this would be taking place on iCCUP; thus, the player activity and popularity of iCCUP would rise. This is a good thing for iCCUP and a good thing for the players participating in the tournament (since the prize pool would be bigger). Not to mention, all the hard work and dedication that goes into running such a big tournament - why not let some of the admins/people working hard take a little share. In the end, they are working for the community, and essentially, with the passion and pose that they ran things, I believe they deserved a little something aside from respect and gratitude.

That leads me to the viewpoint of iCCUP.
iCCUP wanted royalty fees since Game was charging for replays and they wanted some share of it, too (I'm not sure if this is exactly what happened since some of those screenshots were unclear). Nonetheless, iCCUP wanted some sort of compensation from ISL. Now, what I have to say about this is that why on earth would iCCUP ever do this? Like I mentioned in the previous paragraph, the "donation" (in a sense), from the purchasing of replays was going to make a bigger and better tournament which, in return, would make a bigger and better iCCUP. iCCUP would have gotten more attention and, I'm sure iCCUP earns money through ads and whatnot; thus, with more player activity, they'd be earning more revenue anyways. And since Game would have been bringing such activity to iCCUP, why would they care? They should've been happy about it. And then, I'm unclear of what took place about Game flaming them and whatnot, but there was no reason to IPBan the guy who did so much, made iCCUP bigger during the brink of death, etc.

It seems that there was greed and corruption amongst the iCCUP staff. Wanting fees for the work of another was not necessary of iCCUP. Not to mention, it's not like Game pulled that on anyone last second saying he'd charge money for replays. He did this early on (about a month ago). Furthermore, it was for the better of the community as a whole. And since iCCUP does host this server and do a lot for the community, I don't see why they would be against this? They should have wanted to join Game and his endeavors and aim to revive a community we once had.

Either way, what's done is done now. There was some sort miscommunication, greed, corruption, etc going on and it seems that the final cuts have been made. The only thing that can be done now is if iCCUP realizes what idiocy they have committed...

All in all - great work, Game. We were friends for a while on B.net for the last few years, played games together, and had some talks. Best of luck; and we all know you were doing this for the community and no other selfish reason. Some people just won't understand and let their power trips get to them. Can't do anything about it, man.

Best wishes, be safe, and hope to see you around.


When I saw your name before I read the wall of text, I was like "ut oh". But that was an educated post. Also, thanks for your wishes... and I love your sig lol.


Yeah, if I want to be a troll/total BM prick, I could. But, in this case, I think the wrong thing was done. Good luck. But, don't let this whole thing blow up too much. What's done is done, nothing you can do. In the end, it really is a game (and a game that is unfortunately dying). So don't take this too seriously.
Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it.
Joefish
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany314 Posts
July 01 2011 04:55 GMT
#142
On July 01 2011 13:45 GGzerG wrote:
[...] wtf is going on.. T_T

wtf indeed..
Iccup just keeps digging their own grave.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 05:23:14
July 01 2011 05:21 GMT
#143
You gotta admit, law has to be established - and the primary means for achieving that is swinging the ban hammer. As Sayle himself likes to say, Paladin bringin' down the ban hammer! Things have got somewhat out of line, and to solve problems, enforcement of conditions established by the authorities is necessary.

As is done, so too is just, and is law for the players on Iccup, to follow the conditions enforced. And to those finding themselves at the bad end of the hammer - such is life, and though rule breaking is avoidable, the negotiation for punishment remains dishonourable and frowned upon by self respecting adults. One would take punishment like a man, respect authorities, and live with reality- It is a kid's move to trample on one's feet and yell over unfair treatment, when the defining condition of fairness rests in the very thing that enforces it, which results in the paradoxical claim of the would-be victim.
Aah thats the stuff..
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
July 01 2011 05:23 GMT
#144
Later, Dave. I haven't played with you in quite a long time... since back in the Vanilla days in LC.
But best of wishes to you, and take care!
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
erin[go]bragh
Profile Joined December 2008
United States815 Posts
July 01 2011 05:26 GMT
#145
Sorry to be off topic but what the fuck now Sayle is banned too?? WTF is going on.
JulyZerg! by.hero, effOrt, KTY.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10686 Posts
July 01 2011 05:30 GMT
#146

Sorry to be off topic but what the fuck now Sayle is banned too?? WTF is going on.


Yea I agree, sorry to be off topic but can someone shed light on the whole Sayle thing? "using his girlfriends admin powers to abuse" ?......-_-;
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
July 01 2011 05:34 GMT
#147
On July 01 2011 13:40 GGzerG wrote:
I think there is way to much unnecessary drama in this thread, it got totally derailed


On July 01 2011 14:30 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +

Sorry to be off topic but what the fuck now Sayle is banned too?? WTF is going on.


Yea I agree, sorry to be off topic but can someone shed light on the whole Sayle thing? "using his girlfriends admin powers to abuse" ?......-_-;
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10686 Posts
July 01 2011 05:35 GMT
#148
Yea agreed, sorry, but it had to be said. My mind has been blown by this thread man.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
July 01 2011 05:35 GMT
#149
wait she was 15? sayle you dog.

but seriously. no sayle means i wont be playing or watching ISL2. Sayle is by far the best caster in broodwar right now (doing live stuff, i still love nuke equally) but yeah...seriously, what the fuck.
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therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
July 01 2011 06:32 GMT
#150
WTF now sayle is banned now too
15 wtf ???
Tekken ProGamer
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
July 01 2011 06:37 GMT
#151
On July 01 2011 14:35 Kiante wrote:
wait she was 15? sayle you dog.

but seriously. no sayle means i wont be playing or watching ISL2. Sayle is by far the best caster in broodwar right now (doing live stuff, i still love nuke equally) but yeah...seriously, what the fuck.


Completely agreed, I was considering making an ISL2 account and seeing how far up I could ladder, but no more. I'm never logging into the server again.
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
July 01 2011 06:50 GMT
#152
LOL i love how the thread goes from games retirement to sayles 15yr old gf.

this is fucking terrible news though, specially if it means sayle isnt casting ISL anymore? im pretty sure he will, because who the fuck else is going to do it? What the fuck iccup?? what the fuck did sayle do rofl
aka DragOn[NaS]
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 06:57:38
July 01 2011 06:56 GMT
#153
On July 01 2011 14:26 erin[go]bragh wrote:
Sorry to be off topic but what the fuck now Sayle is banned too?? WTF is going on.


Well, shit.

I officially have no fucking clue what's happening with the Classic now, and I'm honestly freaking out over it a little.
DetO
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland69 Posts
July 01 2011 06:56 GMT
#154
iccup has always been corrupted. group of amateur admins compared to pgt/wgt/tl
o,o
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
July 01 2011 07:12 GMT
#155
On July 01 2011 15:56 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 14:26 erin[go]bragh wrote:
Sorry to be off topic but what the fuck now Sayle is banned too?? WTF is going on.


Well, shit.

I officially have no fucking clue what's happening with the Classic now, and I'm honestly freaking out over it a little.

Its ok dude. I thought of a cunning plan. Cast everything from replays!

or borrow my VPN to mask his IP and put up an overlay in the game lobby so viewers cant find out what account he's on to ban it.

voila!
Writer
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 09:06:13
July 01 2011 09:05 GMT
#156
Sayle was banned too. I also love how the Iccup stuff dropped the news than Sayle's girlfriend (?) is 15 (?). Frankly, Paladin is showing how despicable he is, using personal information to distort the debate even more.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5253 Posts
July 01 2011 09:18 GMT
#157
no organizer and no caster... sounds fun. this thread just keeps getting better and better
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Menzies
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand129 Posts
July 01 2011 09:29 GMT
#158
You were awesome, sad to see you go

Good luck and best wishes for your life ahead!!
Never ever ever give up. Impossible is nothing
dusthoof
Profile Joined August 2010
279 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 09:38:30
July 01 2011 09:33 GMT
#159
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 01 2011 09:36 GMT
#160
I lost a bit of my soul reading through this thread. Now I am hungry.

Best of luck with future life.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
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