Hello community,

This thread will consist of three things:
1) Why I am retiring from Starcraft:BroodWar.
2) iCCup's contribution; specifically quoted text from their administration.
3) What I hope to have left the community, how I will still be minorly contributing, and an expression of my appreciation.

Some may know me as LRM)Game, some as MgZ)inG, some as Odin[fOu], but few as Dave. Despite that, if you have been active in the foreign BW community as of 2005, you have ran into me or heard of my works at one time or another. But of my recent IPBan from iCCup, and some other very major projects that are unbeknownst to those who don't work with me regularly within Los Reyes del Mambo or the tournaments I organize, I have been pushed over the edge as Game and need more time for Dave. After the glory in LRM) and other lack need of mention tournaments, real life has caught up with me. With three summer courses right now, five insanely hard fall courses coming up shortly after, and a real life to maintain, I will be around and helping friends, but not doing anything special. As of the end of ISL2 I will be retiring. Also, at the end of this iCCupCL/BWCL season I will be handing the reigns of LRM) over to LRM)jinu, an old prominent and capable leader, and LRM)nOoNe who will be managing the team.

+ Show Spoiler [Part Two; iCCups contributions] +

As I promised to Nvoyne, there would be no biased hatred or personal grudge here, just fact.

Disclaimer: Everything here is copy/pasted except for the missing copy/pastes of iCCup.GeckoXP who made all of the messages ever sent between the two of us disappear from my various inboxes.

+ Show Spoiler [iCCup.cheloman] +

from: AR iccup.cheloman

08 Apr @ 11:12 CET
[RE]: Hey

Hi Game,

So, you have used our server, our admins, our community, our anti-hack, our webpage, and you will sell your replay pack and we dont get anything?.You are free to post it, of course, is not broken any rule with this, but, this ends here.

There is no more ISL at iccup, no more privte forum, no more banners, no more admins involved with private tournaments without benefit for us. We will not solve any more complaints of tagged players from now.

You are a smart person and you will understand this quickly.

If you want to organize a tournament when you will sell something, you will have to pay for it a iccup.

Regards,

My response:
from: AR iccup.cheloman

08 Apr @ 11:21 CET
[RE]: Hey

#1 there was never an agreement to pay iCCup any royalties for anything. #2 iCCup staff was counter-productive in ISL. The banners were cool, the headaches were not.

+ Show Spoiler [iCCups contribution] +

+ Show Spoiler [First SS Explanation] +

I've been made aware that the first screenshot is too small. In the middle of a conversation I received a message "Your account has been locked by an Admin." The last message on the screenshot is "To iCCup.Paladin: Why was my account just locked?"

today @ 02:37 CET iCCup.Paladin /ipban a 6x.xx.xx.xxx 178.xxx.xx.xx iCCup.Paladin
today @ 02:37 CET iCCup.Paladin /kill lrm)game 178.xxx.xx.xx iCCup.Paladin
today @ 02:36 CET iCCup.Paladin /lockacct lrm)game 178.xxx.xx.xx iCCup.Paladin
today @ 02:36 CET iCCup.Paladin /lockacct lrm)game. 178.xxx.xx.xx iCCup.Paladin
today @ 02:36 CET iCCup.Paladin /lockacct lrm)game.. 178.xxx.xx.xx iCCup.Paladin
today @ 02:35 CET iCCup.Paladin /lockacct lrm)game... 178.xxx.xx.xx iCCup.Paladin
today @ 02:35 CET iCCup.Paladin /lockacct lrm)gayme 178.xxx.xx.xx iCCup.Paladin
today @ 02:35 CET iCCup.Paladin /lockacct lrm)gayme2 178.xxx.xx.xx iCCup.Paladin

With this said, I hope I have left the BW community better than when I found it, from a managerial and organizational standpoint. I no longer have the time to give the countless hours of BW work or the want to deal with it. However, given that I have had certain parties working with me through thick and thin on several things, I'm sure people like nOoNe, Sayle, and JoeKim will be fully capable of continuing the foundation that I have laid. I left several other important names out there, which I apologize for, but I don't want to drag this text out for the tl;dr. Also, as my one last offer of availability to the community, if there are tournaments to be hosted and people are unsure who to contact, or need me to hold the prizepool for mediation sake, I'm willing to help.

Lastly, I want to thank the Starcraft:Broodwar community as a hole for providing me with a very realistic home, albeit online. For the support I received, the flaming that kept me motivated, the uncontrolled bias that made me feel like I was in a war prison and needed to prove my innocence, all of the people that have helped sponsor tournaments to enhance our fading scene, and last but not least - my loyal friends and what I would even consider real friends, thank you all very much.

+ Show Spoiler [Special Thanks] +

Special thanks goes to:
SpaniarD
nOoNe
Sayle
JoeKim
EleGant
supernovamaniac
Pholon
HawaiianPig
Semih
Belladona
FleSs
Kolll
Pike
OyA
Bakuryu
jinu
Hejek
lokiM
Soko
OctZerg
cDsuede
Shade
sYz-Adrenaline
kpcrew
Tenshi
Megashira
KoS-Templar
LML
KaalVeiten
Glory
a1k1a4k1
Trap

GenesisX

Canada4267 Posts

June 30 2011 04:14 GMT

;_;

User was warned for this post

Game

3191 Posts

June 30 2011 04:16 GMT

Gonna post up top so I can update anything*

eton7410

Canada261 Posts

June 30 2011 04:17 GMT

Good Luck and Thank you for what you have done.
Regardless of what iCCup says about you, i have always been respecting you for what you have done for the community.
Good luck with your real life.

Kiante

Australia7069 Posts

June 30 2011 04:28 GMT

really looks like paladin is having fun on his powertrip. situation really kinda sucks

you'll be missed in this community, lets just pray that somehow the tournament situation can keep being as rich as you're leaving it

Black[CAT]

Malaysia2589 Posts

June 30 2011 04:28 GMT

Is this for real?

GLHF in real life!

OyA

Sweden1 Post

June 30 2011 04:35 GMT

Very very sad, GL in the future with whatever you'll do & keep in touch my friend, thanks for what you've done for SC:BW.
GL & HF.

L_Master

United States8017 Posts

June 30 2011 04:36 GMT

Well, thats an unfortunate situation, certainly sad to see you go.

Thank you so much for what you have done for the BW community and the tournament scene, your work is definitely appreciated and will be missed.

konadora

Singapore66170 Posts

June 30 2011 04:53 GMT

the first screenshot is too small for me to see. so what happened is Game hosted a tourney on iccup, but iccup demanded royalties (?!?) for it?

Ero-Sennin

United States756 Posts

June 30 2011 04:55 GMT

#10

That's beautiful Dave. Can't wait to see you in SC2

lulz

Anomarad

Canada565 Posts

June 30 2011 04:55 GMT

#11

Thanks for your contributions to the foreign BW scene. Watched you on Sayle's stream a number of times. Goodluck in your future endeavors.

Game

3191 Posts

June 30 2011 04:56 GMT

#12

On June 30 2011 13:53 konadora wrote:
the first screenshot is too small for me to see. so what happened is Game hosted a tourney on iccup, but iccup demanded royalties (?!?) for it?

Edit: Put a screenshot explanation in a spoiler above it.

Shield

Bulgaria4824 Posts

June 30 2011 04:56 GMT

#13

From the information provided, I don't like what iCCup did there, especially that Paladin guy.
Anyway, good luck with your life Dave!

erin[go]bragh

United States815 Posts

June 30 2011 04:57 GMT

#14

Kinda was afraid this would happen after the crap with ISL2. Game's not a saint, but it's still really shitty what iccup did no matter what way you slice it. IMHO they were really at fault here.

Either way it's stupid for such a small supposedly tight-knit community (LOL) like this to cannibalize itself. We needed guys like Game now more than ever.

But hey, I'm sure Paladin is happy. Joy.

TheNessman

United States4158 Posts

June 30 2011 05:00 GMT

#15

I recognize all you did man, and thanks for it. Good luck with school!

hellbound

United Kingdom2242 Posts

June 30 2011 05:01 GMT

#16

Well this is stupid.

Thank you for all the input to the community, certainly not a fair share.

I guess I won't be able to play a 3v3 with you any more

lastkarrde

New Zealand66 Posts

June 30 2011 05:06 GMT

#17

Thanks for all your contributions to the BW community <3

Now where did that brain server connection guide go...

ZeroCartin

Costa Rica2390 Posts

June 30 2011 05:09 GMT

#18

THis thread makes me rage really hard. WTF is up with iccup??? If Blizzard doesnt charge anything for a replay pack, why on EARTH should Iccup, a private "illegal" server be allowed a piece of the sale?

This is fkn bullshit. Seeing Paladin even lying to other admins is just regretful.
+ Show Spoiler +

iCCup.Paladin: "like I wrote above: just one violation of Rules and flaming of the Server too much.

Enough discussion."

There is a rule for replay selling? WTF

konadora

Singapore66170 Posts

June 30 2011 05:10 GMT

#19

damn power trippy jerks.

sorry to see people like you having to go, thanks for everything!

xxpack09

United States2160 Posts

June 30 2011 05:10 GMT

#20

So iCCup has managed to drive away one of the greatest tournament organizers in current BW?

Wonderful... I guess I'm going to have to man up, learn some korean, and install brain/fish since I cannot support a server that takes actions that are effectively killing the foreign BW community.

Anyway, thanks for all of the great things you have done for this community (especially in the past year!) and I wish you luck in your future endeavors.