LRM)Game Retirement Announcement - Page 14

On July 03 2011 22:08 LG)cheloman wrote:
Hello,
The situation with Game started when the guy start call to my admin team retarded, etc. Insult to the people who is working for you by FREE, is not the best way to keep friends.
At iccup, can´t support to someone who make money with our free service. This is the second reason about why you, Game, wont be supported by my admin team.
Its 100% true that this kind of tournaments keeps the community active, but no the whole community is playing the tournament. With ISL, about 85% of our complaints came from ISL ladder and we were over capacity to help everyone.
So, iccup gave you banners, promotion, ladder support, an almost abusers-free server, and a lot of admin time for free, and what we got? Your insults your disrespect.
We cant be sit down seeing how you make money and using our service for you.
Is not true that ISL give us promotion. iccup doesnt need promotion.

Is not an easy decision for us (specially for me), dont allow to my team helps you. And yes, its my decision, no Paladin decision. I know that money tournaments gets the sympathy of community, but we cant accept that our admin team works for free for your bussiness.

Im not in the position to valorate if money prizes, or pay for replay pack its legal, allowed or not. I prefere that Ant, iccup owner, decide about this. But its my responsability to protect to my admin team (in consequence the whole ladder), of insults of someone who wants professional admins when we just have FREE people using their FREE time for help people for get a good experience in our ladder.

I hope none blames about iccup.TV or iccup super admins, who can get a different vision about this situation.
Sadly we can give to the community a perfect admin team. We would like to, but we gives you what we have.
We are improving our system, our rules, our super admins, our trials, everything, as hard as we can. But never, never, never will be perfect. There is not exist a perfect ladder, but we are proud of to be here, after many years, enjoying with our players of the best ladder than SC-BW has had in his history.

On July 05 2011 13:27 Warlord_Master wrote:
Without game being part of the organizers, will there be a ISL3 or any future tournaments or this is the last big one?

On July 04 2011 10:12 Eywa- wrote:


The server is free for everyone, you just treat Game differently because he's a well known icon and you're trying to show your power. Many other people have shout out the same bm without anywhere near the punishment. You really should have thought this through. You exiled one of the most important people in foreign bw just to set an example of "oooh look at me, I can ban people who disobey the rules". Had it been any average ladder player, there would have been virtually no action. BM against the admins is everywhere, everyone does it and its because of shit like this. Also, as far as I know you don't even do shit for bw, I don't understand how you have your admin position. Very poor way to show off the ban hammer you have.

On July 05 2011 16:34 Cedstick wrote:

No, anyone in the position of Game heading this tournament would become well-known. They made the right decision when it comes to disrespecting their free service. What would you do if someone asked to come over and use your shit, then bitch and insult you when you don't give them a mile after an inch?

Not that it's black and white, but when something gets out of hand like this, there's only so much you can do.

On July 05 2011 20:18 hauton wrote:
Seems pretty cut and dry to me - unless Game explicitly told iCCup officials that he would be selling replay packs for profit from the very beginning, iCCup had every right and reason to shut him down for being a manipulative leech.

On July 05 2011 20:21 supernovamaniac wrote:

That's not the whole picture. I could explain everything, but I won't since people don't read the full story and only jump onto conclusions

On July 05 2011 20:24 hauton wrote:

I would be glad to learn more.

From their own words, people on Game's side were offered compensation for their work. Some took it, others refused.

Game never gave those on the iCCup admin side that choice. So you can say it was for future prize money or whatever, but then treat everyone the same - everyone works for free and all pack sales go towards purely helping the tournament.

On July 05 2011 20:18 hauton wrote:
Seems pretty cut and dry to me - unless Game explicitly told iCCup officials that he would be selling replay packs for profit from the very beginning, iCCup had every right and reason to shut him down for being a manipulative leech.