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On June 19 2011 04:18 LeLeech wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 04:04 De4ngus wrote:On June 19 2011 03:47 LeLeech wrote:On June 19 2011 03:40 Domination wrote:
Man this thread just keeps getting worse and worse but morbid curiousity is getting the better of me. So much angst over an extremely trivial thing. "Oh noes, LoL's one tournament is getting as many views as MLG Columbus, which is one of many tournaments". Yeesh. No one cares how many viewers LoL is getting compared to any sc2 tournament. Its the fact that they are using software which forces stream views upon people who login League itself. Yay lets lie so sc2 seems cooler. What kind of comment is that. This isn't high school. We are all nerd/geeks here, do you really think anyone cares if sc2 is cooler than what ever is on the xbox or pc or whatever? No reason to call lie to people, its a well known fact Riot uses pando media booster. LoL'ers need to Chill
As someone stated its only for patches, there are probably more than 170k players playing lol atm, it has more hours played on xfire, higher than WoW.
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On June 19 2011 04:04 Kennigit wrote:
Because riot uses it as a platform for season championships, links to it directly from it's homepage and game client. It's actually a big deal who wins the LoL finals.
I think it's also like I said in another thread is because Riot casts tournaments, and they are always active and very involved with the community where Blizz only shows up to hand the check to the winner after a final.
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this is the first time ive watch LoL, I was a big dota player few years back but this looks terrible. I prefer to watch HON if im going to watch these style of games. Nonetheless 180k viewers on this stream is impressive, great job LoL.
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I honestly don't know how people are able to watch LoL as compared to Dota or HON. Watched 2 full games get played seemed like the same hero dominated in both and when the camera was on the players they weren't even communicating with their team....doesn't seem very competitive to me. 
Just so people don't flame I am a spectator only I don't play Sc2, dota HON or LoL seriously just for funsies
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On June 18 2011 20:22 Alexl wrote:
Lol is a fucking joke of an esport. real games are quake, cs and sc/wc.
SC2 revitalized the RTS scene, I'm hoping someone comes up with a game to revitalize the fps scene because cs is dying and quake is unfortunately small =(
Yeah 100k winning prize money and 180k+ views is such a joke, no production value for the LoL stream or event at all, so unprofessional.
Still more popular than sc2 atm.
edit: why is TL so ignorant when it comes to discussions like this? Claiming LoL in-game forces you to watch the stream, really? Do you even have it installed, and opened up the menu? So butt-hurt over 40k viewers for day9 and 180k+ for LoL.
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Still after 15 pages every 2nd person claiming they're forcing a stream if you log in to LoL.. They're not. Period. Fact. There's only a picture which is a LINK to the stream when you log in. There is no player at all. Just a picture. With an unrelated picture on it. That says "stream click here" below it. Ok?
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On June 19 2011 04:28 crms wrote:
this is the first time ive watch LoL, I was a big dota player few years back but this looks terrible. I prefer to watch HON if im going to watch these style of games. Nonetheless 180k viewers on this stream is impressive, great job LoL.
LoL.. Typical HoN/DOTA player
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Yeah when you log on to LoL they have direct links to the livestream at DH so it's easily accessible for many people who don't bother going to the DH site and going to the stream. It's a pretty good idea for all the casual viewers who will watch something if it's just one click away to boost viewer numbers. That being said I don't actually enjoy watching any DotA game at a competitive level because games are usually decided based on one team fight, and after that a team has the huge gold advantage which causes them to win future team fights.
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LoL is the second most played game right now, behind WoW. However, its competitive scene is really lacking. The same four teams (CLG, TSM, COL, RS) has been dominating for a long time. There are a lot of tryhard players on the server but most of them are too busy raging at players worse than them rather than trying to find ways to improve. I think if the LoL community establish a website like Teamliquid, its e-sports scene would explode with new talents.
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Quake is honestly the only Shooter that's ever entertained me, and outside of that, I can't really see anything except RTS's being fun to watch. And even then, it varies. I've never found CnC fun to watch, but 40K had it's moments.
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I love playing LoL but its pretty obvious to me that if Blizzard made a Stream and posted stream link in game this thread wouldnt exist.
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I suppose if blizzard would link from battle.net to DH SC2 streams there would be a lot more. LoL guys want to push LoL as an e-Sport. Good for them.
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Many people rages about Lol because it's not game what deserves those people - ballance is really sh*tty - many heroes have simple skills like : aoe, buff, stun + ult .
Compare to War3 Dota - lol is for carebears, casuals and babies.
But anyway even casuals need some "e-sports" - lol gives them that.
Haters - hate, Casuals defend...
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I'm not sure how accurate the viewing numbers about LoL compared to SC2 are but to me it isn't hard to believe that LoL has more viewers than SC2. Not because it's the better game or more e-sports friendly game or whatever but simply because I believe more people play it. And by play it I mean play the actual competitive side of the game shown by the streams. In SC2 you have the option to play custom maps (which isn't uncommon). To then see the ladder part on the streams may not be as interesting to you because it doesn't feel close to home.
It's viewing numbers and more viewers equal more money!
This is how I would imagine it could be.. It's obviously just speculation 
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On June 19 2011 04:51 Kazius wrote:
I suppose if blizzard would link from battle.net to DH SC2 streams there would be a lot more. LoL guys want to push LoL as an e-Sport. Good for them.
If you log onto sc2 and look at news+community, dreamhack shows up; its just not as direct as the LoL link; blizzard's fault really.
As far as the 'fake' viewercount conspiracy, LoL had 80k during the NA regional qualifiers, so the current numbers are quite reasonable.
I don't think LoL is quite there as an esports in terms of the number of top teams and players, but Riot is doing a really good job of pushing to being a full-fledged esport and should be congratulated.
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On June 18 2011 18:59 Phenny wrote:
25kish all up, 12k on Day9tv, 6k Totalbiscuit, 1.8 for ICCUP, 3k for Khaldor, 500 for SETT, 1.2 for Ragequit.
I don't get why such a casual oriented game like LoL has 80k+ viewers, not that I'm not happy that esports is growing. I think it's great!
Might be too soon to call your question, all I'd bank on is Starcraft for now, but if that's how many people usually tune in to large LoL tournies that's amazing.
Because when you log into LoL the login screen is one huge link to get into the LoL stream, blizzard doesn't feel like doing stuff like that.
WTB More company support plz ty.
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If blizz linked bnet to DH streams, there would be just as much or more views.
Also, we can watch the VOD's no?
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And for example - add 50$ price to LoL , and make HoN f2p - people will play an be fanboys of HoN , or Dota - i think it's not matter of game itself - commercial + casuality + f2p = many students happy. :trf:
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On June 19 2011 04:20 Woony wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2011 04:18 LeLeech wrote:On June 19 2011 04:04 De4ngus wrote:On June 19 2011 03:47 LeLeech wrote:On June 19 2011 03:40 Domination wrote:
Man this thread just keeps getting worse and worse but morbid curiousity is getting the better of me. So much angst over an extremely trivial thing. "Oh noes, LoL's one tournament is getting as many views as MLG Columbus, which is one of many tournaments". Yeesh. No one cares how many viewers LoL is getting compared to any sc2 tournament. Its the fact that they are using software which forces stream views upon people who login League itself. Yay lets lie so sc2 seems cooler. What kind of comment is that. This isn't high school. We are all nerd/geeks here, do you really think anyone cares if sc2 is cooler than what ever is on the xbox or pc or whatever? No reason to call lie to people, its a well known fact Riot uses pando media booster. LoL'ers need to Chill You claim something and never posted any source or proof that Riot artifically increases stream views, yet you call people out for calling you a liar?
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
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