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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 18 2011 19:04 GMT
#261
Because riot uses it as a platform for season championships, links to it directly from it's homepage and game client. It's actually a big deal who wins the LoL finals.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 18 2011 19:04 GMT
#262
On June 19 2011 03:47 LeLeech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 03:40 Domination wrote:
Man this thread just keeps getting worse and worse but morbid curiousity is getting the better of me. So much angst over an extremely trivial thing. "Oh noes, LoL's one tournament is getting as many views as MLG Columbus, which is one of many tournaments". Yeesh.


No one cares how many viewers LoL is getting compared to any sc2 tournament. Its the fact that they are using software which forces stream views upon people who login League itself.


Yay lets lie so sc2 seems cooler.
GANDHISAUCE
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
June 18 2011 19:06 GMT
#263
holy virgins...how do people get upset about e-sports growing lol

its actually a great spectator game, a lot more exciting then sc2 to watch although i think broodwar was the best spectator e-sport.

Brees on in
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
June 18 2011 19:06 GMT
#264
On June 19 2011 03:33 GizmoPT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 03:29 Vestige wrote:
On June 19 2011 03:22 IzieBoy wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:38 Kickboxer wrote:
I'm positive that only Sc2 and fighting games are even remotely watchable to non-players.

Diablo might get in there if casuals can understand what's going on.

Shooters and WoW have zero spectator appeal, and LoL is in the same league but has a massive and very casual playerbase so a huge tourney here and there might get some viewers (those numbers are most probably broken, though).


sc2 is like watching chess games though


if chess were ctrl 1 and then 1a. SC2 isn't nearly nailbiting or exciting as an esport. you dont go "OMG LOOK AT THE INSANE CONTROL ON THAT COLLOSUS!" or" LOOK AT THE ULTRA BLING ARMY GO! HE HAS NO CHANCE AT VICTORY NOW!." Its just like there isnt a difference between the semipros and the pros because the game closed that gap with all the mechanics built into it, however, the single biggest thing prevent from sc2 from becoming a major esport is unit clumping. fights last too small and some units are just way too cost efficient in their clumps. Who has a bigger clump of crap. Thats who will win. ok im bored.


what are you doing in this forum ?


Supporting BW likely, this is general forum area...
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
yazu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States255 Posts
June 18 2011 19:07 GMT
#265
Wait i just want to make sure you all understand that you have to click on the stream and watch it. I mean when they have 180k viewers throughout the entire game then the viewers are legit.... no one is asking the viewer to stay and watch...... I am confused by all the hate going towards league of legends lol. (no pun intended).
g.cuisine
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 18 2011 19:07 GMT
#266
Another game getting views aside from SC2, this obviously can't happen, is a fluke and is bad for E-sports.

lol.

WriterXiao8~~
Sae
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom74 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 19:09:08
June 18 2011 19:08 GMT
#267
There is no stream embedded in the client, it's advertised with a video box which is just a url to this site: http://season-one-championship.na.leagueoflegends.com/ and pando media booster is only used for the installation, not in the game itself (afaik, I have it uninstalled ever since I installed the game and have had no issues running it).
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
June 18 2011 19:09 GMT
#268
^ That's pretty much what it is.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 19:20:44
June 18 2011 19:09 GMT
#269
I think this huge number of viewer from LOL come from lulzsec who try to crash the stream with new type of ddos attack ^^ (joke)

More seriously they have say this some week ago

"It appears that LulzSec has taken down the server for MMORPG Heroes of Newerth (a game very similar to World of Warcraft). The group mocks that Defense of the Ancients ("DotA") custom scenario for Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos "is better."

http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiel3 SCBW FPVOD
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
June 18 2011 19:11 GMT
#270
On June 19 2011 04:09 Rodiel3 wrote:
I think this huge number of viewer from LOL come from lulzsec who try to crash the stream with new type of ddos attack ^^

... what?
:)
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
June 18 2011 19:11 GMT
#271
Blizzard should really link streams on the main page on bnet... i know a LOT of people that only know about eSports because of those types of news on WC3
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
June 18 2011 19:11 GMT
#272
While I am kinda ticked off that Sc2 is not dominating in viewership(sorry but no way is the numbers -that- far off) at the moment I am watching both so who knows though I am kinda hoping this silences alot of people's thoughts on that only sc2 can get big numbers.

ESPORTS is for everyone, and while you can debate how balanced and perfect a game like LoL is for competitive scene it's obviously got a fanbase and some fairly good players. I don't mind sharing I love both games and hope they both do well and from the looks of it, they are.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
June 18 2011 19:12 GMT
#273
On June 19 2011 04:09 Rodiel3 wrote:
I think this huge number of viewer from LOL come from lulzsec who try to crash the stream with new type of ddos attack ^^

More seriously they have say this some week ago

"It appears that LulzSec has taken down the server for MMORPG Heroes of Newerth (a game very similar to World of Warcraft). The group mocks that Defense of the Ancients ("DotA") custom scenario for Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos "is better."

Come watch true Dota here http://www.livestream.com/xfire_rodiel3

botnet with 100 000+ clients to connect to stream? really dude?. Cmon bro.. at least congratulate a game for its high performance, not this shit
Aah thats the stuff..
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
June 18 2011 19:15 GMT
#274
It was a joke heh
http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiel3 SCBW FPVOD
zawk9
Profile Joined March 2011
United States427 Posts
June 18 2011 19:17 GMT
#275
On June 19 2011 04:07 Kipsate wrote:
Another game getting views aside from SC2, this obviously can't happen, is a fluke and is bad for E-sports.

lol.



Your hurting esports with your words. It might go out of business forever!
there's a bug in the new patch where the other player keeps killing all my dudes.. please nerf this
LeLeech
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom211 Posts
June 18 2011 19:18 GMT
#276
On June 19 2011 04:04 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 03:47 LeLeech wrote:
On June 19 2011 03:40 Domination wrote:
Man this thread just keeps getting worse and worse but morbid curiousity is getting the better of me. So much angst over an extremely trivial thing. "Oh noes, LoL's one tournament is getting as many views as MLG Columbus, which is one of many tournaments". Yeesh.


No one cares how many viewers LoL is getting compared to any sc2 tournament. Its the fact that they are using software which forces stream views upon people who login League itself.


Yay lets lie so sc2 seems cooler.


What kind of comment is that. This isn't high school. We are all nerd/geeks here, do you really think anyone cares if sc2 is cooler than what ever is on the xbox or pc or whatever?

No reason to call lie to people, its a well known fact Riot uses pando media booster.

LoL'ers need to Chill
LoL stream: ~190k viewers. SC2 stream: ~85k viewers. Really Blizzard?
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 19:21:28
June 18 2011 19:20 GMT
#277
On June 19 2011 04:18 LeLeech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 04:04 De4ngus wrote:
On June 19 2011 03:47 LeLeech wrote:
On June 19 2011 03:40 Domination wrote:
Man this thread just keeps getting worse and worse but morbid curiousity is getting the better of me. So much angst over an extremely trivial thing. "Oh noes, LoL's one tournament is getting as many views as MLG Columbus, which is one of many tournaments". Yeesh.


No one cares how many viewers LoL is getting compared to any sc2 tournament. Its the fact that they are using software which forces stream views upon people who login League itself.


Yay lets lie so sc2 seems cooler.


What kind of comment is that. This isn't high school. We are all nerd/geeks here, do you really think anyone cares if sc2 is cooler than what ever is on the xbox or pc or whatever?

No reason to call lie to people, its a well known fact Riot uses pando media booster.

LoL'ers need to Chill


You claim something and never posted any source or proof that Riot artifically increases stream views, yet you call people out for calling you a liar?
Znoz
Profile Joined January 2011
Latvia127 Posts
June 18 2011 19:22 GMT
#278
/trollmath on
What we have :
Lol 5v5 games 180+-k people "watching?"
Sc2 1v1 games near 80+-k people.

180k \ 10p = 18k\1p
80k \ 2p = 40k \1p

Sc2 players and streams are x2+ times more effective than Lol.
/trollmath off

+ There's fact -Riot use very aggressive style of game promotion (wcg sponsorship etc.) so not big surprise, that they put links everywhere - i think in blizzcon will be something equal to this.
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
June 18 2011 19:22 GMT
#279
So, with the title, are you asking why it seems like other games are becoming more viable ESPORTS than SC2, or was the title just what made sense to you because ti's confusing me
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
Microchaton
Profile Joined March 2011
France342 Posts
June 18 2011 19:23 GMT
#280

LoL'ers need to Chill


From what I've seen, LoL'ers have just stated facts.

Those "hating" on LoL need to chill, not the other way around.
Stormy
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