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Glimred
Profile Joined October 2010
China888 Posts
June 09 2011 20:43 GMT
#561
How are there so many people on TL who don't think there's something incredibly wrong about being able to map a complex series of actions to just one button?


Anyway, thanks Grubby for showing me how to get my account banned. Also, I'm glad I don't own any steelseries products.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
June 09 2011 20:45 GMT
#562
On June 10 2011 05:12 GGzerG wrote:
XsebT I like and respect you and your views but saying that Response's comment was unbelievably stupid was just un called for, and invalid within itself, sure keyboards with macros can potentially help a player, and give a certain edge, but for a player to get this edge he has to first completely relearn how he plays the game (assuming that he didn't always play with macro keys) Which is a pretty good assumption to make, I myself have played around 10 thousand games as Zerg since the beta, for me to stop how I play and completely relearn a new way in which I would have to stop what i'm doing and hit a macro key, then no, the advantage gained over this is so small, and the player with the better mechanics, apm, and skill will still almost always win, this is not giving anyone a huge advantage to win games, Everyone needs to think more logically instead of just thinking "Omg he can press 1 key and do multiple things" , it's not like the macro keys on a keyboard are going to win games for you.


You'd seriously have a problem using one key to inject larvae if you used a macro instead of the 2 current debateable methods because it would be such a detriment to your current "playstyle". lol give me a break.
There's no S in KT. :P
Vulcano
Profile Joined June 2011
United States147 Posts
June 09 2011 20:48 GMT
#563
On June 10 2011 05:43 Glimred wrote:
How are there so many people on TL who don't think there's something incredibly wrong about being able to map a complex series of actions to just one button?


Anyway, thanks Grubby for showing me how to get my account banned. Also, I'm glad I don't own any steelseries products.


yes im new here but i know that TL.net is an honorable type gaming community.. not a 1337 haXXor location for tips that will later be incorporated into the auto-play keyboard (whether its 5% automation or 50% automation - as i think someone has pointd out) STAY CLASSY TL.. dont use it
someone set up us the bomb
SixPackAbs
Profile Joined September 2010
United States160 Posts
June 09 2011 20:49 GMT
#564
"Boom sandwich!"

-grubby
GummyZerg
Profile Joined November 2010
United States277 Posts
June 09 2011 20:50 GMT
#565
I would never want someone on the ladder using an edge such as this, glad it's not allowed.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
June 09 2011 20:51 GMT
#566
On June 10 2011 05:50 GummyZerg wrote:
I would never want someone on the ladder using an edge such as this, glad it's not allowed.


Its not allowed but I have yet to see a single person banned for using macros in any blizzard games.

Catreina
Profile Joined April 2010
United States304 Posts
June 09 2011 20:54 GMT
#567
On June 10 2011 05:51 Hypemeup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 05:50 GummyZerg wrote:
I would never want someone on the ladder using an edge such as this, glad it's not allowed.


Its not allowed but I have yet to see a single person banned for using macros in any blizzard games.




You sir are fucking blind then.

How about you stop trolling, get your head out of your ass and the shit out of your eyes.

User was temp banned for this post.
Defrag
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland414 Posts
June 09 2011 20:55 GMT
#568
How can anyone argue this should be allowed?

I guess larva inject hack should be allowed as well then, nothing really different then saving myself few clicks every 40s.

youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 09 2011 20:56 GMT
#569
I don't understand why you guys all raise your pitchforks at Steelseries but then completely absolve Grubby from all responsibility.

I mean, I like the guy too but he's clearly promoting something that can and will get you banned. You can't just say this is 100% Steelseries and say they paid Grubby to do it. If I got paid to do something illegal, I'm still completely in the wrong, in the same way if you're going to hate Steelseries you better hate Grubby too. Otherwise you're just a fucking idiot.
lalala
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 20:58:34
June 09 2011 20:57 GMT
#570
On June 10 2011 05:54 Catreina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 05:51 Hypemeup wrote:
On June 10 2011 05:50 GummyZerg wrote:
I would never want someone on the ladder using an edge such as this, glad it's not allowed.


Its not allowed but I have yet to see a single person banned for using macros in any blizzard games.




You sir are fucking blind then.

How about you stop trolling, get your head out of your ass and the shit out of your eyes.


Point me to once case where this has happend thanks.

Also do take the time out and explain to me how they would be able to tell a macro doing it for me from me preforming the action myself.
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
June 09 2011 20:58 GMT
#571
can blizzard even check for macro's in thier anti hack programs or whatever they use?

im really surprised grubby agreed to make this video when its common knowledge every RTS game (well at least blizzard own) does not promote macros like this. Next thing there is a macro to spam workers for the first 15 mins of the game.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
June 09 2011 20:59 GMT
#572
wow so many persons upset. From my experience its more like 80% of the people are using macro keys. Even though everyone does it its not a good idea to make it a commercial, because everyone will dislike it.
Also from my experience the more stuff people use that makes their competetiv life easier, the weaker they get. So at the end they are as good as if they would have been without all these nice tools.
Thats why i don't worry to much, the only bad thing about it is though, if you lose you think your opponent won because of the evil tools they use. (thats giving bad karma)
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 21:01:30
June 09 2011 20:59 GMT
#573
On June 10 2011 05:55 Defrag wrote:
How can anyone argue this should be allowed?

I guess larva inject hack should be allowed as well then, nothing really different then saving myself few clicks every 40s.



why would you even want that -,.- isn't it better to have something challenging? it would be boring to use it :X
NomaD.
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania42 Posts
June 09 2011 21:01 GMT
#574
The topic should be change to "SteelSeries promotes macro cheating?" Grubby has nothing to do with this.Just respecting some agreements
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
June 09 2011 21:02 GMT
#575
I never understand why so many TLers get so worked up over the most unimportant and insignificant things. I mean 30 pages for promoting macros (I know they ~shouldn't be used~), but if you're going to go up in arms at everything that people do that they shouldn't you gunna have a pretty tough life.
Vulcano
Profile Joined June 2011
United States147 Posts
June 09 2011 21:03 GMT
#576
On June 10 2011 05:59 Dia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 05:55 Defrag wrote:
How can anyone argue this should be allowed?

I guess larva inject hack should be allowed as well then, nothing really different then saving myself few clicks every 40s.



why would you even want that -,.- isn't it better to have something challenging? it would be boring to use it :X


:p no you see i want it to be challenging for them, just not me. i'd like to press W , and the harder i press it, the more i WIN... so when things get really tough.. and the W key isnt doing right, ill have no effing clue what to do without my WIN button
someone set up us the bomb
PigglyWinks
Profile Joined May 2011
364 Posts
June 09 2011 21:04 GMT
#577
I suppose it's very naive to think the RTS scene would be exempt from an auto-play friendly attitude in a post-WOW world. It's sad to see it even on Team Liquid, though.
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
June 09 2011 21:04 GMT
#578
maybe grubby's promoting this for single player and not for competitive play?
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
June 09 2011 21:04 GMT
#579
On June 10 2011 05:56 youngminii wrote:
I don't understand why you guys all raise your pitchforks at Steelseries but then completely absolve Grubby from all responsibility.

I mean, I like the guy too but he's clearly promoting something that can and will get you banned. You can't just say this is 100% Steelseries and say they paid Grubby to do it. If I got paid to do something illegal, I'm still completely in the wrong, in the same way if you're going to hate Steelseries you better hate Grubby too. Otherwise you're just a fucking idiot.


I'm reserving judgement on how I feel about Grubby agreeing to this because no one really knows what went on behind closed doors.

It's actually completely possible that Grubby himself was not aware that such tools are banned on ladder. Obviously they would be banned from tournaments, so as a competitor why would Grubby feel the need to research what Blizzard allow on their ladder? It doesn't concern him.

None of us have the facts here so I see no reason to immediately throw him under the bus.

Steelseries fucked up and Grubby, knowingly or unknowingly, went along with it. At this point in time that is all we can really say for sure.
Pochtli
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland690 Posts
June 09 2011 21:05 GMT
#580
On June 10 2011 05:59 Dia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 05:55 Defrag wrote:
How can anyone argue this should be allowed?

I guess larva inject hack should be allowed as well then, nothing really different then saving myself few clicks every 40s.



why would you even want that -,.- isn't it better to have something challenging?


It's naive to think that all of the people play to improve and have a fair game (in anything really, not just SC2) rather than get profit, whether it is ladder points, money and whatnot. Some people go further down the road than others in helping themselves to achieve these things.
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