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On November 04 2011 18:02 Eartz wrote: Can't wait !
2 movies : looks like they have the money. Good.
Anyone knows if there's a teaser already ? found nothing on imdb
No, it's too early yet.
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BUMP, i think this thread should be remade with a new title,
this thread is at first glance almost a 8 years old..
[Movie] THE HOBBIT
anyways, i just wanted to say to anyone with the idea that books are better than movies. the truth is movies are movies, and a book is a book.
you get two different emotions from them.
with a book it can take an hour to read a chapter. and sooo much imagery is left out. i tell you ive never read any of these books, so i decided last night to DL the hobbit. wow 1300+ pages took me 11 hours straight.
that being said, im glad i saw all the LOTR movies first because i was able to picture things sooo much more clearer. in my opninion, if there was no bias, a movie should make the book better. so go out and watch movies before you read the books, this way while you read each characters lines you can hear their voices so much clearer. and you can see everything the author depicts so much clearer. its amazing what a movie can do for a book being read.
but this is the opinion of a man who loves to watch movies rather than sit down with a book. (i watch everything from chick flicks, to horror, to action, to fantasy) I LOVE MOVIES
but for those who love books the same can be said in vice versa.
my point is that a movie can give a book so much more color, even if parts are left out. i hope thats ok to say.
NOW SOMEONE MAKE A NEW THREAD! <3
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my point is that a movie can give a book so much more color, i hope thats the right word.
yeah or it takes a lot away, or portrais it not as you imagined books let you paint your own pictures.
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We don't need a new thread. -_-
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Elija Wood is a baller name for a baller actor. I'll definitely see that movie ! Hope they'll do the silmarillion aswell !
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Every time I see something made by Peter Jackson, I get him mixed up with Lakers coach, Phil Jackson. Then I get confused and wonder why or when he became a director...
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On November 05 2011 06:05 Erasme wrote: Elija Wood is a baller name for a baller actor. I'll definitely see that movie ! Hope they'll do the silmarillion aswell ! Haha Silmarillion as a movie would be all CG and a 10 part series like Band of Brothers. Would still watch it though :D
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I never managed to watch Lord of the Ring until the end. As much as I like Tolkien novel, and although some image were really strong and some passages really successful, I really thought Peter Jackson did overall a terrible job.
Don't think I will bother watching him slaughtering The Hobbit, which is my favorite Tolkien book.
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On November 05 2011 06:06 tehemperorer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 06:05 Erasme wrote: Elija Wood is a baller name for a baller actor. I'll definitely see that movie ! Hope they'll do the silmarillion aswell ! Haha Silmarillion as a movie would be all CG and a 10 part series like Band of Brothers. Would still watch it though :D Could be totally badass ! It could also be a fail ... but in Peter Jackson I trust!
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+ Show Spoiler +On November 05 2011 05:51 wishbones wrote: BUMP, i think this thread should be remade with a new title,
this thread is at first glance almost a 8 years old..
[Movie] THE HOBBIT
anyways, i just wanted to say to anyone with the idea that books are better than movies. the truth is movies are movies, and a book is a book.
you get two different emotions from them.
with a book it can take an hour to read a chapter. and sooo much imagery is left out. i tell you ive never read any of these books, so i decided last night to DL the hobbit. wow 1300+ pages took me 11 hours straight.
that being said, im glad i saw all the LOTR movies first because i was able to picture things sooo much more clearer. in my opninion, if there was no bias, a movie should make the book better. so go out and watch movies before you read the books, this way while you read each characters lines you can hear their voices so much clearer. and you can see everything the author depicts so much clearer. its amazing what a movie can do for a book being read.
but this is the opinion of a man who loves to watch movies rather than sit down with a book. (i watch everything from chick flicks, to horror, to action, to fantasy) I LOVE MOVIES
but for those who love books the same can be said in vice versa.
my point is that a movie can give a book so much more color, even if parts are left out. i hope thats ok to say.
NOW SOMEONE MAKE A NEW THREAD! <3
So, I'm sorry but, I wholeheartedly disagree with your post. The best part about reading a book is using your imagination. Taking the authors details, descriptions and ideas and using them to create your own unique view of a world. In that respect I love reading a good novel way more than a movie for this exact reason. The setting, the nuances, behavior and portrayal of characters are done by the authors words but in my own image. I can make whatever I want of the world, it can be as colorful and vibrant as I want it or it can be as gloomy and dreary as I imagine.
From reading your post I get a single impression "I can't be bothered to use my imagination, so I'll let Peter Jackson's brain do it for me". How can watching the movie, which has limitations in time constraints, visual technology and lack of detail (in comparison to the book) be better that using the most powerful tool at our disposal, our brain (imagination, creativity).
Don't get me wrong, watching the movies is a great experience. Being able to see how a different person visualized the same world differently is very interesting. In some cases I enjoyed Peter Jackson's take on parts of the book, but overall nothing compared to reading the book first hand. Being able to see myself along the characters for the ride, feeling their joy, pain and sorrow.
IDK, maybe I'm old fashioned.
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I like the movies for putting a face on the characters. I never manage to imagine faces for characters I'm reading. As for the surroundings I usually have a mixture of my own imagination and scenes from the movies when I'm reading anything LotR related.
I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE. IT'S STILL SO LONG AWAY T_T
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Films > books, but this is my opinion because the whole litterature/language, to me, is a joke in terms of making a story. Call me dumb but thats me...
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I love the book but I doubt they can make the same magic happen in the movie.
The Hobbit was one of the best books I've ever read.
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On November 05 2011 06:37 Valashu wrote: I love the book but I doubt they can make the same magic happen in the movie.
The Hobbit was one of the best books I've ever read.
i agree. But i still have faith in Peter Jackson...Lord of the Rings was brilliant even tough not as awesome as the books.
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That video on Jackson's facebook was like an orgasm that lasted 10 minutes. I can't wait till the movie comes out!
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I am excited for this movie. The set looks so beautiful and complex.
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Edit: On topic: I can't wait to see Smaug and the random orc tunnels and the 15,000 Dwarves or whatever 
Off topic (high school essay tiem):
I love the LotR books, and I've re-read them all 5 times (the Hobbit only twice). I also really enjoyed the movies, for somewhat different reasons.
I like the books better, even though the writing is not nearly as good as some people seem to think. In fact, by today's standards, Tolkien's writing was mediocre at best, especially The Hobbit. A lot of scenes, description, and even a few subplots were awkwardly done, poorly placed or simply too long. Rivendell, Tom Bombadil and the long, dull, boring, gritty, dull, long trek to Mount Doom stand out as weak points.
The movies fixed a lot of problems in Tolkien's storytelling but, of course, had the problem of being a movie. Pandering to the masses, the idiotic implementation of the dead road subplot, the bland representation of the already-bland elves, removal of several great scenes, etc.
What the books and movies both had was... sheer epicness. Has there ever been any fictional world created so thoroughly and consistently? I mean, damn. The amount of random stuff, lore, culture, and continuity in the books is what makes them awesome. If you can't get completely into the world, you probably wouldn't even like the books. But most can, and do. You feel like you're there, watching history happen, learning about the world along with your naive, oblivious hobbits. You understand the import of the battles, the confrontations, the difficulties and the ever-present threat of failure and complete destruction just as viscerally as the characters do. Useless (plot-wise) bits like Tom Bombadil and the scouring of the Shire (wtf was that anyway lol) don't bother you much because they're part of the experience of the world. Because that's what the books are: an experience, and not just a story.
The movies are just a pretty good and very entertaining approximation of the books. I find myself having no trouble keeping the books separate from the visuals in the movies. I can apply the stuff I know from the books to the movies and enjoy the beautiful Shire and the sweet fight scenes and the "I-am-a-total-boss" Balrog.
TLDR: I love everything, books and movies and kittens and stuff! All for what they are! :3
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On November 05 2011 06:06 Rkie wrote: Every time I see something made by Peter Jackson, I get him mixed up with Lakers coach, Phil Jackson. Then I get confused and wonder why or when he became a director...
lol never in a million years would Phil Jackson make a movie.... I doubt he knows how to work a camera
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On November 05 2011 06:56 MrHoon wrote:I remember when I first read the hobbit... It was the single best book I've ever read as a child, hands down. I loved the characters and when the book ended I wanted to learn more and more about bilbo and his adventures When I got a bit older I finally got around the Lord of the Rings I was shocked to see the story will now revolve not around bilbo but some douche named frodo. Not to mention the Lord of the Rings was substantially harder to read than the Hobbit. As a young guy, I was turned off immediately by the Lord of the Rings book. Maybe I was a bit too young to appreciate the book  I'm so pumped for this movie. Yes there are alot of criticism to Peter Jackson saying how he took some liberties with his movie, but tbh I have no other director anywhere in the world who I want to direct the hobbit.
Sounds familiar man, so so familiar
Bard really is a terribad name for a hero though
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