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Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 15:12:09
May 30 2011 15:04 GMT
#501
On May 29 2011 15:25 Fubi wrote:
Savior is banned from Kespa and Gom, but he isn't banned from Afreeca nor is he banned from playing SC in general.

So what did he do wrong here? why is he getting so much shit?

He did something wrong before, and received his deserved punishment, and that is the end of the story. It is very discriminating of us to ridicule him after he received his punishments.


Exactly. I think it's just this mob mentality surrounding the press, which I imagine would cover Starcraft quite a lot in South Korea.

Say what you like about him and what a bloody idiot he was for throwing away his world class player status like this. He was a phenomenal player and probably a bonjwa in his own right who would have made SlayerS_BoxeR look crap had he peaked even further and stayed on the right side of the law and KeSPA regulations.

Sadly, such phenomenal talent like that had to get caught up in such a significant scandal. Don't get me wrong, Savior is an amazing player but he kinda got what he deserved for throwing games like that.

People say "Oh, but he fell from grace around 2009 - 2010. Well how do you know if that was him declining as a player or throwing matches?

What I was saying in previous posts about whether it would be possible for him to move to SC2. It would seem unlikely. For one, it's a vastly different game to Brood War and you would need a lot of RTS experience and a good amount of practice especially with partners who are also good at the game to hit professional status. No player would be his practice partner if they knew of his past.

Secondly, what Korean team would honestly sign him as a player after the match fixing scandal? None.

And finally, Gretech have upheld the KeSPA lifetime ban in their own leagues. And they are the only e-sports organisation that are actually doing anything SC2 related in Korea, except maybe WCG.

Then there's if he tried to break the foreign scene. There would be a lot of uncertainty around that move i.e. would any foreign team even have the nerve to sign him, would any foreign league even have the nerve to allow him in their league with a (criminal?) conviction to his name?
Eun_Star
Profile Joined April 2010
United States322 Posts
June 14 2011 06:58 GMT
#502
Bump...I believe Savior actually has his own stream on afreeca now. I know I will get a lot of hate for saying this, but I do not support Savior's decision on this one.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
June 14 2011 07:00 GMT
#503
caused a huge shitstorm in korea

20000 viewers on afreeca watching his stream which is a really insane number for afreeca

netizens debating furiously about this
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IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
June 14 2011 07:00 GMT
#504
I want to see this... Why can't kiante stream Afreeca anymore?
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 14 2011 07:01 GMT
#505
On June 14 2011 15:58 Eun_Star wrote:
Bump...I believe Savior actually has his own stream on afreeca now. I know I will get a lot of hate for saying this, but I do not support Savior's decision on this one.


there's an article on this on Fomos. Imma translate it later tonight.
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
June 14 2011 07:02 GMT
#506
ZOMG PLZ someone make guide on how to watch, or can someone restream? will there be vods??!??
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 14 2011 07:08 GMT
#507
Even tho he deserves what he got it'd still be so sick to watch Savior play from a first-person view tho....
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
June 14 2011 07:09 GMT
#508
holy shit I need to figure out how to use afreeca
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
June 14 2011 07:13 GMT
#509
It seems like you need to be korean to use it, or do a bunch of weird shit to be able to watch from outside of korea .
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
June 14 2011 07:14 GMT
#510
It's sad that it's a lifetime ban, and I hope Savior feels really regretful about this.

Anyway, it would be cool if he could still make money from his stream by still playing BW as long as he plays somewhat close to a relatively high level, which should be no difficulty for him.

I agree with others, he got his punishment, stop hating on him.
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Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
June 14 2011 07:15 GMT
#511
On June 14 2011 16:02 Megaliskuu wrote:
ZOMG PLZ someone make guide on how to watch, or can someone restream? will there be vods??!??


THIS!! I really want to see him play~

One would think that he's completely done with sc, though...I mean, he's banned essentially for life, so why does he not just do something else :/ he's getting so much hate, and clearly will not ever get to play competitively again, do why not just move on? Otherwise, it will be hard for him to make a living :x
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 07:25:46
June 14 2011 07:15 GMT
#512
Gah, exact copy double-post.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 07:22:11
June 14 2011 07:21 GMT
#513
You cant watch afreeca without being korean or using korean proxy. And as far as i know, even korean proxy doesn't really work anymore (atleast for me it didn't).

Re-stream go go go go.

ps. there is afreeca "how to watch" -guides out there already, even in TL.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
June 14 2011 07:21 GMT
#514
I think no matter what, he is never getting back into esports. It is apparent that the people up there in GOM and Kespa don't share the same sentiments as we do and this is where it ends as it has for him when he was found out.

Even if he got back, there will surely be much talk and question about his integrity that it would be hard for him to focus on playing.
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Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
June 14 2011 07:25 GMT
#515
its not that simple. Afreeca blocks foreign IP's. To get it working you basically need to find an amazing socks5 proxy, which isn't something that really exists. you can get it working for a few minutes then the proxy dies most of the time, if it works at all. Aparantly if you can get tor working, or do some weird trick where you cut the proxy when afreeca connects you can get it to work. i've never had any luck. You can google "afreeca guide" if you wanna have a go, and if you get it working, make a new one!
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
June 14 2011 08:02 GMT
#516
DES articles on Savior today:

http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=45518
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=45519
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=45520

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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
June 14 2011 08:21 GMT
#517
You can watch Afreeca using it's android app. Anyone knows what BJ sAvIOr is using?
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
June 14 2011 09:09 GMT
#518
Man, I would soooo watch this, but afreeca...
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Pasay
Profile Joined October 2009
United States24 Posts
June 14 2011 09:12 GMT
#519
Just came across this on youtube.



There are a few more vods on the channel too.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
June 14 2011 09:18 GMT
#520
Thx for posting :D
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
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