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iSini
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
13 Posts
February 05 2011 01:41 GMT
#1
Hi Guys, I'm iSin and I play in the NA server. Being Korean many people criticize me since I play in bronze league. Still I'm working hard to refine my skills. Currently my APM is 70 early game and 100 mid-late game...

I would really like to increase my APM because I just feel that I'm not microing right, and since I play as Zerg for ladder, I need to continue to micro right, but I can only macro well. I really need to learn to do both but I really am finding it difficult to raise my APM.

Would someone please teach me anyway to raise my apm?
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 01:44:19
February 05 2011 01:43 GMT
#2
the only way is to practice.

people are joking about you being in bronze lol. work on getting thicker skin before improving at a game, anyway.

I made it into plat with 60 apm zerg. 100 is sufficient to play at all but the very highest level, and even then it's not a vacuum and more =/= playing better. better playing = higher apm.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
February 05 2011 01:43 GMT
#3
you can start by checking out this link:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=apm
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 01:46:06
February 05 2011 01:44 GMT
#4
Getting the basics down will raise your apm.

Keep making drones, keeping in mind where your enemy's army is, don't overmake drones when his army is on the move.
Keep spawning larvae
Retain map control
Don't let your money get too high. Even during engagements, focus on making units while watching the battle.
Put all your hatches on one control group.
Ogna
Profile Joined November 2008
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 01:44:46
February 05 2011 01:44 GMT
#5
i would almost say that 70-100 is too much for bronze leauge......

Try to learn build orders, and really try to grasp WHY this or that works.

once you learn this the information you obtain from scouting will auctually mean something to you.

Try to macro and build units while you are attacking

and last but not least. play a lot of games


I am in masters 2600 and my apm is around 114
Sheekthief
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States267 Posts
February 05 2011 01:46 GMT
#6
Don't worry about it. Thats how. I look at APM to flex my epeen between me and my friends. Other than that I take it worth a grain of salt. Just work on general mechanics and in time it will get higher.
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Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 01:50:40
February 05 2011 01:46 GMT
#7
Oh my god, why is there a thread on this every day!?

Search for exising threads on the subject before making a new thread, I'm pretty sure there are already 500 of them.
I think esports is pretty nice.
ectonym
Profile Joined July 2010
United States147 Posts
February 05 2011 01:46 GMT
#8
I've read that warming up your fingers before a match (cracking your knuckles, shaking yours hands and fingers, stretching your hand ligaments, etc) can help to slightly increase your APM. I hope that's a good start.

The only other way I know is consistent practice, exercise those phalanges.
I cannot be what I am so I become money, quarter by quarter, and live as long as I can live. "Why I Play Video Games," by Tony Barnstone. check out my design website, ectonym.com
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
February 05 2011 01:47 GMT
#9
I'm 40 APM and silver which makes me think that maybe you're spam clicking a little too much.
http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/4712303/
according to Day9, sometimes its good to click a little less so you can work on your precision
but yeah the main thing is just practice, practice with the micro and the macro, and then switching back and forth between them as fast as possible
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
Skamtet
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada634 Posts
February 05 2011 01:48 GMT
#10
If you can macro well you are not supposed to be in Bronze league.
I really doubt you have good macro.

I thought spamming ladder games would be the obvious answer here.
Okiesmokie
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada379 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 01:48:39
February 05 2011 01:48 GMT
#11
If you're stuck in the bronze league APM should be the last thing on your priority list. As you learn the mechanics of the game, your APM will naturally increase.

At bronze-level play you should not be focusing on microing all your units perfectly, but instead working on macro and other mechanics. Would you rather have one zergling that can perfectly dance around units, or twenty zerglings that could easily plow through said units?
arterian
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1157 Posts
February 05 2011 01:48 GMT
#12
your apm is fine, work on the fundamentals. Learn build orders, proper scouting techniques, and strategies.
http://www.twitch.tv/arterian
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
February 05 2011 01:50 GMT
#13
I've seen players with 70APM in Master. I honestly don't think it's your APM that's holding you back in Bronze. You should try to focus on your basic macro and decision making instead.
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
February 05 2011 01:51 GMT
#14
>>>100 APM
>>>Bronze League

...

Wat?


Dood try making workers, units and expanding instead of spam clicking so much. Most Bronze players have ~20-40 APM.
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 01:52:50
February 05 2011 01:51 GMT
#15
If you're stuck in the Bronze league with 70-100 APM, you're probably going wrong somewhere else because that should be more than sufficient speed at that level. Most likely you need to be looking at your decision making and what you're actually doing with the speed that you have. Honestly, macroing well and 1-A attacking is enough to get you out of Bronze in most instances so maybe you're not macroing as well as you think you are?
`Zapdos
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States935 Posts
February 05 2011 01:51 GMT
#16
EGAxslav has the same apm as you. It's not how fast you are, it's how you use each click
www.twitch.tv/thezapdos come watch me :]
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
February 05 2011 01:51 GMT
#17
Try not to keep your camera in the same place for more than a second or 2. Army, back to macro, back to army, back to scouts, back to macro, etc. and if you remember to do all your macro, esp when you get your late game, your apm will definitely be pretty high.

And it's important to keep your money low by spamming units and keeping under supply. Constantly putting out units instead of waiting to do a giant blob of like 30 units at once will allow you to have an army when you need it, and it will boost your apm.
How's the weather down there?
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
February 05 2011 01:53 GMT
#18
People are getting confused that somehow getting macro right will raise APM, infact its the other way around. Low APM will ruin your macro.

Some of the ways to raise apm:

1.) SPAM, yes this does help and before anyone comes yelling at me, all the pros spam and they spam like a crazy Nigerian fraudster. You can have your own opinion on just how 'useful' spamming is but the fact that every single pro spams should really null your arguments.

2.) Play the game on the slowest game setting vs AI and gradually increase the game speed.
bisu fanboy
Pacman234
Profile Joined December 2010
United States88 Posts
February 05 2011 01:54 GMT
#19
Watch Day9. Watch anything that says mental checklist, or basic videos like his first 2 newbie tuesdays, and when you want real mechanics, watch all newbie tuesdays.
He talks mainly about strategy in normal dailies, which actually shouldn't be the major focus in bronze. its about getting a ton of stuff out. once your in platinum, really, you should try boosting apm, but smartly. Watch daily 252 to do that, because believe, NO PRO TRULY SPAMS.
Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 01:57:17
February 05 2011 01:55 GMT
#20
I watch a lot of replays with all sorts of different players, and view APM averages among replays on sc2replayed.com. Bronze level APM is generally 17-35 APM. Silver to Platinum generally a 30-50 APM, Diamond to lower masters 60-90 APM. Above that it seems to vary hugely, from APM's of 110 up to APM's of 300. Typically players who make it to the top of foreign tournaments have somewhere around 120-170 APM.

These observations suggest to me that your APM is not at all what is holding you back.

But if you're really focused on APM, Day9 just did a daily episode this week where he covered the topic and gave his view on where APM typically comes from and what you should do that will result in higher APM (Useful actions obviously). (http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/4712303/)

I'd suggest you focus on other aspects of your play, though. GL
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