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iSini
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
13 Posts
February 05 2011 01:41 GMT
#1
Hi Guys, I'm iSin and I play in the NA server. Being Korean many people criticize me since I play in bronze league. Still I'm working hard to refine my skills. Currently my APM is 70 early game and 100 mid-late game...

I would really like to increase my APM because I just feel that I'm not microing right, and since I play as Zerg for ladder, I need to continue to micro right, but I can only macro well. I really need to learn to do both but I really am finding it difficult to raise my APM.

Would someone please teach me anyway to raise my apm?
red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 01:44:19
February 05 2011 01:43 GMT
#2
the only way is to practice.

people are joking about you being in bronze lol. work on getting thicker skin before improving at a game, anyway.

I made it into plat with 60 apm zerg. 100 is sufficient to play at all but the very highest level, and even then it's not a vacuum and more =/= playing better. better playing = higher apm.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
February 05 2011 01:43 GMT
#3
you can start by checking out this link:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=apm
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 01:46:06
February 05 2011 01:44 GMT
#4
Getting the basics down will raise your apm.

Keep making drones, keeping in mind where your enemy's army is, don't overmake drones when his army is on the move.
Keep spawning larvae
Retain map control
Don't let your money get too high. Even during engagements, focus on making units while watching the battle.
Put all your hatches on one control group.
Ogna
Profile Joined November 2008
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 01:44:46
February 05 2011 01:44 GMT
#5
i would almost say that 70-100 is too much for bronze leauge......

Try to learn build orders, and really try to grasp WHY this or that works.

once you learn this the information you obtain from scouting will auctually mean something to you.

Try to macro and build units while you are attacking

and last but not least. play a lot of games


I am in masters 2600 and my apm is around 114
Sheekthief
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States267 Posts
February 05 2011 01:46 GMT
#6
Don't worry about it. Thats how. I look at APM to flex my epeen between me and my friends. Other than that I take it worth a grain of salt. Just work on general mechanics and in time it will get higher.
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Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 01:50:40
February 05 2011 01:46 GMT
#7
Oh my god, why is there a thread on this every day!?

Search for exising threads on the subject before making a new thread, I'm pretty sure there are already 500 of them.
I think esports is pretty nice.
ectonym
Profile Joined July 2010
United States147 Posts
February 05 2011 01:46 GMT
#8
I've read that warming up your fingers before a match (cracking your knuckles, shaking yours hands and fingers, stretching your hand ligaments, etc) can help to slightly increase your APM. I hope that's a good start.

The only other way I know is consistent practice, exercise those phalanges.
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TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
February 05 2011 01:47 GMT
#9
I'm 40 APM and silver which makes me think that maybe you're spam clicking a little too much.
http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/4712303/
according to Day9, sometimes its good to click a little less so you can work on your precision
but yeah the main thing is just practice, practice with the micro and the macro, and then switching back and forth between them as fast as possible
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
Skamtet
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada634 Posts
February 05 2011 01:48 GMT
#10
If you can macro well you are not supposed to be in Bronze league.
I really doubt you have good macro.

I thought spamming ladder games would be the obvious answer here.
Okiesmokie
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada379 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 01:48:39
February 05 2011 01:48 GMT
#11
If you're stuck in the bronze league APM should be the last thing on your priority list. As you learn the mechanics of the game, your APM will naturally increase.

At bronze-level play you should not be focusing on microing all your units perfectly, but instead working on macro and other mechanics. Would you rather have one zergling that can perfectly dance around units, or twenty zerglings that could easily plow through said units?
arterian
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1157 Posts
February 05 2011 01:48 GMT
#12
your apm is fine, work on the fundamentals. Learn build orders, proper scouting techniques, and strategies.
http://www.twitch.tv/arterian
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
February 05 2011 01:50 GMT
#13
I've seen players with 70APM in Master. I honestly don't think it's your APM that's holding you back in Bronze. You should try to focus on your basic macro and decision making instead.
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
February 05 2011 01:51 GMT
#14
>>>100 APM
>>>Bronze League

...

Wat?


Dood try making workers, units and expanding instead of spam clicking so much. Most Bronze players have ~20-40 APM.
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 01:52:50
February 05 2011 01:51 GMT
#15
If you're stuck in the Bronze league with 70-100 APM, you're probably going wrong somewhere else because that should be more than sufficient speed at that level. Most likely you need to be looking at your decision making and what you're actually doing with the speed that you have. Honestly, macroing well and 1-A attacking is enough to get you out of Bronze in most instances so maybe you're not macroing as well as you think you are?
`Zapdos
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States935 Posts
February 05 2011 01:51 GMT
#16
EGAxslav has the same apm as you. It's not how fast you are, it's how you use each click
www.twitch.tv/thezapdos come watch me :]
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
February 05 2011 01:51 GMT
#17
Try not to keep your camera in the same place for more than a second or 2. Army, back to macro, back to army, back to scouts, back to macro, etc. and if you remember to do all your macro, esp when you get your late game, your apm will definitely be pretty high.

And it's important to keep your money low by spamming units and keeping under supply. Constantly putting out units instead of waiting to do a giant blob of like 30 units at once will allow you to have an army when you need it, and it will boost your apm.
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fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
February 05 2011 01:53 GMT
#18
People are getting confused that somehow getting macro right will raise APM, infact its the other way around. Low APM will ruin your macro.

Some of the ways to raise apm:

1.) SPAM, yes this does help and before anyone comes yelling at me, all the pros spam and they spam like a crazy Nigerian fraudster. You can have your own opinion on just how 'useful' spamming is but the fact that every single pro spams should really null your arguments.

2.) Play the game on the slowest game setting vs AI and gradually increase the game speed.
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Pacman234
Profile Joined December 2010
United States88 Posts
February 05 2011 01:54 GMT
#19
Watch Day9. Watch anything that says mental checklist, or basic videos like his first 2 newbie tuesdays, and when you want real mechanics, watch all newbie tuesdays.
He talks mainly about strategy in normal dailies, which actually shouldn't be the major focus in bronze. its about getting a ton of stuff out. once your in platinum, really, you should try boosting apm, but smartly. Watch daily 252 to do that, because believe, NO PRO TRULY SPAMS.
Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 01:57:17
February 05 2011 01:55 GMT
#20
I watch a lot of replays with all sorts of different players, and view APM averages among replays on sc2replayed.com. Bronze level APM is generally 17-35 APM. Silver to Platinum generally a 30-50 APM, Diamond to lower masters 60-90 APM. Above that it seems to vary hugely, from APM's of 110 up to APM's of 300. Typically players who make it to the top of foreign tournaments have somewhere around 120-170 APM.

These observations suggest to me that your APM is not at all what is holding you back.

But if you're really focused on APM, Day9 just did a daily episode this week where he covered the topic and gave his view on where APM typically comes from and what you should do that will result in higher APM (Useful actions obviously). (http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/4712303/)

I'd suggest you focus on other aspects of your play, though. GL
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
February 05 2011 01:56 GMT
#21
think faster

play a lot so you know what you're supposed to do for TONS of different possible situations / circumstances
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
SlapMySalami
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
February 05 2011 01:57 GMT
#22
On February 05 2011 10:47 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
I'm 40 APM and silver which makes me think that maybe you're spam clicking a little too much.
http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/4712303/
according to Day9, sometimes its good to click a little less so you can work on your precision
but yeah the main thing is just practice, practice with the micro and the macro, and then switching back and forth between them as fast as possible



Was going to link this. You should actually try SLOWING DOWN when you play. No more spam clicks just play calmly. I dunno how you're at 100 APM I avg 110 as Zerg and I'm at about ranked 1000 NA on sc2ranks (Master League). I know you want to hear surefire ways to improve APM but that will be useless if you don't work on everything else first.
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 02:08:09
February 05 2011 01:58 GMT
#23
You do not want high apm. The lower your apm, the better, because this means all your clicks are effective (assuming you have enough apm to macro and micro of course). Usually 80-100 apm late game is fine(don't even bother getting your average apm to 80, as long as your late game current apm is 80). Early game apm is mostly negligible, because there's not much to control. 40 apm is pretty common in the early game, even among pros. Once you feel comfortable with the ability to multitask and you've become very fluid in macro and micro, then you can consider spamming to keep your fingers warm during the early game. But that is personal taste, and the excess apm doesn't actually benefit gameplay other than staying quick and sharp.
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iSini
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
13 Posts
February 05 2011 01:58 GMT
#24
I do watch Day9 Psy HD, and Husky
In fact i love Day 9's channel the best....
But I've been playing Starcraft 2 for about 2 monthes now....and I'm currently division rank 6, but I still find opponents beating me when it comes down to massive army engagements....So I'm thinking maybe I'm microing wrong.....Should I post a link to one of my ladder games?
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
February 05 2011 02:00 GMT
#25
On February 05 2011 10:53 fearus wrote:
People are getting confused that somehow getting macro right will raise APM, infact its the other way around. Low APM will ruin your macro.

Some of the ways to raise apm:

1.) SPAM, yes this does help and before anyone comes yelling at me, all the pros spam and they spam like a crazy Nigerian fraudster. You can have your own opinion on just how 'useful' spamming is but the fact that every single pro spams should really null your arguments.

2.) Play the game on the slowest game setting vs AI and gradually increase the game speed.


70-100APM is plenty enough to macro well in diamond, and like I said above, I've even seen a Master league player with 70APM. It's clear that the problem here isn't his APM. You don't want him to start spamming just to boost his APM which could actually disrupt him from his decision making skills at his level of play.
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
February 05 2011 02:03 GMT
#26
On February 05 2011 10:53 fearus wrote:
1.) SPAM, yes this does help and before anyone comes yelling at me, all the pros spam and they spam like a crazy Nigerian fraudster. You can have your own opinion on just how 'useful' spamming is but the fact that every single pro spams should really null your arguments.


This is horrible advice. Your reasoning for it is nothing more than "pros do it". Do you even know WHY pros do it?
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
February 05 2011 02:03 GMT
#27
stare on your mimimap every second of the game and use your peripheral vision for the other 90% of your monitor
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 02:05:09
February 05 2011 02:04 GMT
#28
On February 05 2011 10:58 iSini wrote:
I do watch Day9 Psy HD, and Husky
In fact i love Day 9's channel the best....
But I've been playing Starcraft 2 for about 2 monthes now....and I'm currently division rank 6, but I still find opponents beating me when it comes down to massive army engagements....So I'm thinking maybe I'm microing wrong.....Should I post a link to one of my ladder games?


Yes post your replays. Most likely, you are losing due to one of 3 things.

1) Your army is too small. When you watch your replay, look at the population count and the army tab. If his army is bigger, there's the reason you lost.

2) Your army positioning might be wrong. As a zerg, try to gain as much surface area on the opponent as possible. This means surrounding the enemy before attacking, if possible. It also means not fighting in narrow corridors and chokepoints.

3) Your army composition is off. His army might simply be composed of units strong against your units. Make sure to counter your opponent when you scout, and constantly keep tabs on his composition.
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Geniuszerg
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada454 Posts
February 05 2011 02:05 GMT
#29
daily 252! =D
Buddhist
Profile Joined April 2010
United States658 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 02:09:37
February 05 2011 02:06 GMT
#30
If you macro'd well, you wouldn't be in Bronze. Edit: And I didn't just say this to talk shit, rofl. I said this because your main problem is macro, not micro. You don't need to micro till high diamond.

But anyway, the only way to get better micro is to micro, the only way to get higher effective APM is to do it during a game. Spamming will not help you what so ever.

When you're in a game, figure out what you need to do at any given moment, and do it. You'll probably find that it's not your APM that is limited, but your awareness of what you need to do, and ability to remain calm and do it.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
February 05 2011 02:10 GMT
#31
This has been asked over a dozen times. Use search.
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