EPTThe only thing obvious is that gomtv wanted Boxer vs Nada, the rest is absurd.
GomTV protecting Boxer? - Page 7
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
The only thing obvious is that gomtv wanted Boxer vs Nada, the rest is absurd. | ||
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On November 30 2010 17:53 adeezy wrote: I don't see how randomly generated ro64 brackets would be better. At that sample size. Could you imagine the uproar if Ret vs Idra was first round or something of the sort. No matter what, I prefer seeding, even if you think it gives people an advantage. I say this also coming from a tourney competitor back when I used to play random fighting games. They wouldn't be any better, they'd only remove the intentional advantage that's given to the best players at a given tournament. Randomly generated brackets would likely result in lower ratings (why watch the rest of the tournament if the 2 best players play in the ro64?), which would result in lost revenue (why pay for advertising if everyone stopped watching after the ro64?), which would result in less exposure to the population (why bother televising the tournament if no one's watching?), which would result in less competitive players (why play a game no one cares about?), which would result in the death of the tournament scene (why keep competing if the same 64 players keep playing with nearly the same results every single time?). | ||
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On November 30 2010 17:58 NrG.ZaM wrote: GOM so trying to give boxer a free ride, I mean, half the terrans in GSL2 were on his side of the bracket. HALF, on HALF the bracket! Unacceptable. They're even doing the same thing in GSL3, half the terran players are on each side of the bracket, this is madness! I've never seen this kind of favoritism before, completely stacking half the bracket just to give boxer a better shot. ![[image loading]](http://knowyourmeme.com/i/626/original/ohoq9.jpg) User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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adeezy
United States1428 Posts
On November 30 2010 18:03 Nemireck wrote: They wouldn't be any better, they'd only remove the intentional advantage that's given to the best players at a given tournament. Randomly generated brackets would likely result in lower ratings (why watch the rest of the tournament if the 2 best players play in the ro64?), which would result in lost revenue (why pay for advertising if everyone stopped watching after the ro64?), which would result in less exposure to the population (why bother televising the tournament if no one's watching?), which would result in less competitive players (why play a game no one cares about?), which would result in the death of the tournament scene (why keep competing if the same 64 players keep playing with nearly the same results every single time?). It's common consensus that people address random seeded brackets as worse. And the main point I was arguing is the intentional advantage people are trying to prove is not apparent when you look at the bracket as a whole. | ||
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ScarletKnight
United States691 Posts
Could I see they fixing the brackets? Yeah sure, he's a famous player that people love to watch and while I don't see that doing much as far as expanding the popularity of SC2 it is fun to watch him play. The best thing for the game would to have it create their own stars. Guys like Foxer who were never big in BW are huge SC2 stars now and I find that better than having cross-over stars coming to play. | ||
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shire
United States405 Posts
rigged or not rigged... there will always be people that if u give them a steak they will say why can't i have sushi. if you give them sushi, they will say why can't i have a steak. | ||
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shire
United States405 Posts
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adeezy
United States1428 Posts
On November 30 2010 18:23 shire wrote: however, gom did show favoritism by making boxer play last round of 64. giving him (and his opponent) ltos of time to prepare I would like to think that's more.... Saving the best for last =) | ||
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Snowbear
Korea (South)1925 Posts
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Excomm
United States152 Posts
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shire
United States405 Posts
On November 30 2010 18:30 adeezy wrote: I would like to think that's more.... Saving the best for last =) lol perhaps you are right. oh and one more thing to add. if gom wanted to give boxer free ride, they should have made polt.prime's ro64 opponent terran instead of zerg. so who ever wins out of that match would a terran. boxer's opponent in ro64 could have been a zerg. and some people might say polt's opponent zerg wasn't good so it was expected... or something of. but then game is still new. leenock performed very well in season 3 compare to his loss to nada in season 2. also kyrix and zenio played amazing in season 2 compare to season 1. | ||
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lol12tree
Canada88 Posts
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
When you watch tennis you will never see Nadal and Federer play each other in a tourney before the final. Thats because they are seeded 1 and 2 and therefore are at opposite ends of the bracket. This is prolly whats happening at GOM, they seed players so that they dont have the "top 16" players meet until as far down the bracket as possible. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
So actually BoxeR has got 2 TvT's by GOM at max. The other 5 came to him by chance. Maybe his matchup right now is TvT because he has had to play it so much, his TvP looked pretty good too, would like to see more of that. (and TvZ ofc) | ||
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MICHELLE
Korea (South)199 Posts
On November 30 2010 13:38 Looky wrote: he said in a interview its his best mu. anyways i think its rigged too since there were so many zergs and yet he gets to face terran in the 1st round. He never said that in interview, he said it's his favorite mashup | ||
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TMStarcraft
Australia686 Posts
 That's not sarcasm, I'd actually be interested in the figures. | ||
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jaycee
Australia62 Posts
I'm not saying they were fudged, but moving forwards, the above will avoid a lot of threads similar to the OP. | ||
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shire
United States405 Posts
On November 30 2010 18:53 jaycee wrote: Brackets need to be telecast being drawn out of a hat (a la World Cup) or have published cedings prior to the draw. I'm not saying they were fudged, but moving forwards, the above will avoid a lot of threads similar to the OP. even in world cup, they dont have 4 european teams or south american teams in a same bracket. | ||
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HiHiByeBye
Canada365 Posts
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SiNoCiDe
Turkey67 Posts
On November 30 2010 16:14 rawk wrote: No you do. Say you have 3 TvT's, theres 6 T's playing, 3 win, so terrans win 3 games but terrans also lose 3 games, hence terran having a 50% winning percentage. Your correct, however he stated "current ratio" and not winning percentage . There is a difference. That would mean out of 3 TvTs . Terran won 3 times. 3/3 = 1 = 100%. + Show Spoiler + By the means of Troll Logic. | ||
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