EPTAn open letter to djWheat and the Liveon3 folks - Page 8
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brotosterone
United States260 Posts
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On November 09 2010 02:32 brotosterone wrote: I agree with the OP. I am all for having fun, but being professional is equally as important. I don't mind it. I actually enjoy it a lot, but others outside of e-sports looking to come in may be discouraged by crude behavior. The first thing people outside of e-sports tune into won't be a podcast, they'll probably be more interested in watching games. | ||
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MrShank
Canada144 Posts
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brotosterone
United States260 Posts
On November 09 2010 02:34 vyyye wrote: The first thing people outside of e-sports tune into won't be a podcast, they'll probably be more interested in watching games. I just think the overall image of the casters, commentators, etc. is very important in the growth of e-sports. | ||
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Louky
Canada72 Posts
On November 09 2010 02:09 ZomgTossRush wrote: I think 90% of these posters are saying the same thing. "i am not offended, I like how it went, keep doing it." When they should be saying. "I am not offended, but I can see how others could be, and yes, these casters should be aware that that they COULD offend people, especially those new to the scene." They ARE aware. That is the reason why they're very PC on air and in general. EVERYTHING anyone does could offend someone else. They were at a (e)sports party, and that's how it goes: a bunch of guys drinking beer and being dumb. Of course it's going to be racier (rofl) that a usual broadcast. If that's not your cup of tea, don't tune in. It doesn't change the fact that everyone in that room acts professionally during tournaments and broadcast times. Some people are reacting like djWheat explained fisting to a bunch of 10 year old kids while casting from the MLG desk. | ||
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ghostsquall
United States187 Posts
Another thing you guys don't realize...is that these guys are all good friends. They travel event to event with each other and practice with each other online all the time. Sure, there is the professional aspect of it, but people that want to make sc2 so uptight that the players can't even broadcast themselves having a good time....then this is a community I don't want to be a part of. If you want that, fly over to Korea and chill with Kespa....this is the American e-sports scene...not the Korean...and partying and being awesome is simply a part of our culture. :D | ||
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Typhon
United States387 Posts
Dear TL posters: The OP had this to say about the cast: The majority of the cast was wonderful to watch. I loved your conversations with the player post wins/losses, getting the inside perspective and knowing more of the behind the scenes of the tournament. However, it is the last few minutes of the cast that I want to address i.e., He loved 98% of it. 2% of it, he has some criticism on. Seems reasonable enough to me. Here are your collective responses: Let's make no fun at all then You're everything wrong with the sc2 community Why do people have to pretend not to know how to have fun to appease stuck up people? This is TL. we all love djWheat, but there's no need to be a rabid hater. Hell, you're probably not even drunk. At least Slasher had an excuse. | ||
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ghostsquall
United States187 Posts
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
If you think this "unproffesionalism" will hurt e-sports, lol, we have one affair a month with football players getting drunk and partying with hookers, and it is still the most popular sport, people don't care about professionalism that much (I am not saying that everything goes, but as I said this was the most tame party I have ever seen) and sponsors care only about money. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On November 09 2010 02:36 brotosterone wrote: I just think the overall image of the casters, commentators, etc. is very important in the growth of e-sports. I know I have personally never given a damn about the image of casters or commentators. When I watched a lot of football I didn't check who was going to cast it, I was more concerned with who was playing. The 'growth of e-sports' has bigger concerns than an after-party podcast. Really, do you tune in to <whatever sport you watch> wondering/caring about who will cast/commentate? | ||
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Odoakar
Croatia1837 Posts
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Tuneful
United States327 Posts
Starcrafters take eSports seriously while outsiders do not take eSports seriously. If the goal is to branch out with eSports and associated brands, doesn't it make sense to comply with standards of professionalism adopted by others? The webcast is not as harmful as perceived by some, but there's going to be less room for stuff like this in the future. Brands will have to hold their employees accountable for their public statements and their social network use as notoriety and investment increases. | ||
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AwfulPlayer
249 Posts
On November 09 2010 01:06 Phos wrote: I'm not a racist and not trying to be a troll or anything but it really surprises me how something like this is always offensive to only US-Americans. Speaking as someone from Europe you guys over there have a very strange perspective on whats OK on media. Showing all kinds of gory violence on any form of broadcast is good, but a few people hanging out and having fun and doing what everybody does when they had a few beers is beyond the line of whats acceptable. I really cant understand that attitude and how you can be bothered so much by this that you made a post about it. this. | ||
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resilve
United Kingdom678 Posts
What DJWheat was giving people was a back stage pass to the 'afterparty' for MLG. This. I, for one, felt priveleged to be able to access a party full of gaming heros, at a hugely fun tournament across the world from me. When wheat+co are giving up their time and energy to give some amazing free content, I think you have to be very careful with criticism. If you are a new viewer to LO3 you might not be aware that swearing and alcohol is not a taboo, and you might not be aware that after 3 gruelling days players and 'backstage' participants want to let off some steam, enjoy themselves and savour their last moments together as friends till the next LAN. I really think most behaviour is excusable under these influences of beer and good company - because when it comes down to it, nobody is obliged to share this with the rest of the community - and just by doing so is a blessing. | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On November 09 2010 02:32 brotosterone wrote: I agree with the OP. I am all for having fun, but being professional is equally as important. I don't mind it. I actually enjoy it a lot, but others outside of e-sports looking to come in may be discouraged by crude behavior. An after party has nothing to do with e-sports. It's like a football team wins the superbowl, and has a party. Does this party have anything directly to do with football? are they drinking and throwing up all over their fans at the game? no, get over it. | ||
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Malhorn
United States148 Posts
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s.Carter
United States36 Posts
Life is full of difficult choices. | ||
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Cynoks
United States87 Posts
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LoliKuma
United States237 Posts
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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