EPTThat being said there were some legitimately good interviews that anyone interested in the players or just the overall future of SC2 should probably watch. Painuser gave a good interview, incontrol gave a good interview, and NonY and ret gave really good interviews that would have reflected very well on the scene were there not a party going on in the background. Yeah slasher was annoying at the end, but it is what it is. I think it pretty much delivered the goods regardless, and you're probably over-blowing the effect of the etiquette issues, at least for this specifically.
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Aquafresh
United States824 Posts
That being said there were some legitimately good interviews that anyone interested in the players or just the overall future of SC2 should probably watch. Painuser gave a good interview, incontrol gave a good interview, and NonY and ret gave really good interviews that would have reflected very well on the scene were there not a party going on in the background. Yeah slasher was annoying at the end, but it is what it is. I think it pretty much delivered the goods regardless, and you're probably over-blowing the effect of the etiquette issues, at least for this specifically. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
I highly doubt any professional football player ever uttered any profanity on air. Are you for real? There is an entire press industry in the UK devoted to football player's afterparties. | ||
Chill
Calgary25979 Posts
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Twistacles
Canada1327 Posts
On November 09 2010 03:08 vyyye wrote: If we are to support the growth of e-sports we have to stop acting like drunk idiots. There's a reason alcohol has an age-limit and we shouldn't expose underage viewers to the negative side effects of the potentially lethal drug. The professionalism was lacking and people new to the Starcraft 2/E-sports scene will now associate Starcraft 2 with alcohol. What parents would want their children to see alcohol in association with their video games? Same with swearing, I heard Incontrol drop the f-bomb several times. When was the last time we heard the f-bomb when watching professional sports? I highly doubt any professional football player ever uttered any profanity on air. Party != E-sports This wasn't MLG, this was a USTREAM called cat-in-a-box EDIT: What chill said | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
MLG casters are the face of legitimate esports in America (other than the players). They represent something larger than themselves (their employer, etc). Accept the responsibility and quit acting like frat brahs *on a live stream*. If Marv Albert or John Madden dropped a BJ joke or acted like an idiot on camera at a post-NFL game party, they would be terminated. I want esports to be as large as the NFL. I want these dudes to accept that mantle of responsibility and step up. | ||
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Twistacles
Canada1327 Posts
On November 09 2010 03:14 IPA wrote: Support the OP. MLG casters are the face of legitimate esports in America (other than the players). They represent something larger than themselves (their employer, etc). Accept the responsibility and quit acting like frat brahs *on a live stream*. If Marv Albert or John Madden dropped a BJ joke or acted like an idiot on camera at a post-NFL game party, they would be terminated. I want esports to be as large as the NFL. I want these dudes to accept that mantle of responsibility and step up. Assuming John madden's fan even know what a livestream is | ||
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Chill
Calgary25979 Posts
On November 09 2010 03:14 IPA wrote: Support the OP. MLG casters are the face of legitimate esports in America (other than the players). They represent something larger than themselves (their employer, etc). Accept the responsibility and quit acting like frat brahs *on a live stream*. If Marv Albert or John Madden dropped a BJ joke or acted like an idiot on camera at a post-NFL game party, they would be terminated. I want esports to be as large as the NFL. I want these dudes to accept that mantle of responsibility and step up. I love the demands. Do you think John Madden avoids dropping BJ jokes on a livestream because of his professional reputation, contractual obligations, or for the good of football? Okay, now let's see which of those are analogous to DJWheat's situation... hmm... | ||
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mcleod
Canada350 Posts
On November 09 2010 03:12 Chill wrote: Okay, next time the cameras will be off. Good work guys, you did it. exactly they went out of their way to get this up and spent 2+hours doing interviews and such yes it was in a party atmosphere , if you didnt like it TURN YOUR STREAM OFF you dont have to watch, no one is making you . you dont think these guys would rather just be enjoying themselves after 3 hard days work but instead they think of the community first and put this up props to DJ wheat, Sirscoots and slasher for a really interesting night | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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Strut
United States182 Posts
On November 09 2010 03:08 vyyye wrote: If we are to support the growth of e-sports we have to stop acting like drunk idiots. There's a reason alcohol has an age-limit and we shouldn't expose underage viewers to the negative side effects of the potentially lethal drug. The professionalism was lacking and people new to the Starcraft 2/E-sports scene will now associate Starcraft 2 with alcohol. What parents would want their children to see alcohol in association with their video games? Same with swearing, I heard Incontrol drop the f-bomb several times. When was the last time we heard the f-bomb when watching professional sports? I highly doubt any professional football player ever uttered any profanity on air. this is a dumb post. not everyone in the sc2 community has to be a rolemodel for e-sports. stop worrying about everything being professional and what your mother would say, thats not going to get starcraft 2 in the spotlight any faster. the growth of e-sports right now is about increasings its fan base, not pleasing critics. so content like the show last night is a great way for fans to see the players in another light. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On November 09 2010 03:12 Twistacles wrote: Party != E-sports This wasn't MLG, this was a USTREAM called cat-in-a-box EDIT: What chill said And here I was thinking my post was exaggerated enough for people to understand it was nothing but satire. Making fun of similar posts, if you will. | ||
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bri9and
United States246 Posts
Oh, and I really think that both casters are trying to lose the title "professional annalist" | ||
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SchAmToo
United States1141 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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Twistacles
Canada1327 Posts
On November 09 2010 03:18 vyyye wrote: And here I was thinking my post was exaggerated enough for people to understand it was nothing but satire. Making fun of similar posts, if you will. Oh damn, I got trolled hard. Kind of expected with the stupidity in this thread, though. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
I was sincerely offended and confused by Slasher's ponytail and Macbook Air. Dj Wheat and SirScoots, please take the appropriate measures to amend these grotesque perversions in the future. | ||
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Ygz
England370 Posts
On November 09 2010 03:18 vyyye wrote: And here I was thinking my post was exaggerated enough for people to understand it was nothing but satire. Making fun of similar posts, if you will. I thought it was quite epic. For a moment, you almost sounded American. | ||
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MagnusHyperion
United States288 Posts
I think that anyone who disagrees with the OP is actually not understanding the point. The point is not that they shouldn't drink, relax, and kick back but that they shouldn't BROADCAST it. No one is saying they shouldn't have a good time but the real question becomes one of image for the scene. Now I know a lot of people are new to e-sports so I'll put this candidly, please reference the success of Korean E-Sports before you make assertions about Foreign E-Sports. Korean E-Sports presents a very respectable, professional image which is one reason it is able to become so incredibly mainstream (multiple TV channels that cast BW). The players and coaches keep their personal celebrations largely private and though definitely show joy at winning, do not use vulgar language or make sexist remarks. If you want foreign E-Sports to succeed, then you should probably copy the most successful E-Sports model out there. A good place to start is the 12 year old, mainstream, nationally supported BW scene in Korea. Again, the main point that the OP and people like myself are trying to make is that you need to make sure the Foreign scene maintains a certain level of professionalism so that critics of it aren't even given the opportunity to pull up obscure, unpublicized clips that could possibly detract from the image. No one has a problem with celebration, happiness, and relaxation, but there is a problem with vulgarity and rudeness. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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potatomash3r
Australia417 Posts
They did it for the fans, not to bring in new people. | ||
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