EPTAn open letter to djWheat and the Liveon3 folks - Page 6
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Looky
United States1608 Posts
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ggkorea
United States8 Posts
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DoubleLariat
Canada190 Posts
Sure it's no-fluff. There's some swearing, the setting is really informal. But at the same time they're conducting interviews and they're trying to hype the e-sports scene. Remarks that might be construed as sexual harrassment is going to scare away sponsors... which is the reality of making anything go big and mainstream. Which is what they want e-sports to become. Y'all gotta get your internal decisions coherent and lined up =P Do you want e-sports to remain a fringe indy thing or do you want it to be mainstream, and on TV and huge? If the latter, then sacrifices need to be made - re: showing the awesome fun side. It's unfortunate, but it's the reality. | ||
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Gonzodamus
United States273 Posts
On November 09 2010 01:28 Looky wrote: all sports have parties. people go to sports bar and get drunk and watch the game. sure e-sport wont be effected too much by it. Yeah, but I doubt there's a live stream of the players and commentators drinking together and talking shit after an NBA  I'm not saying the Lo3 stream was bad, I quite enjoyed it. But if someone tuned in and was turned off by the autism stuff or the things that the OP called out, that's a bummer. To folks saying that this is only watched by hardcore fans - do you really expect that no one new will tune in to see DJ Wheat and Day[9] show after watching DJ Wheat and Day[9] cast all weekend? | ||
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Monarch.StarCrack
United States169 Posts
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
Like konicki alludes to, while this incident likely was benign, it only takes one incident for there to be a problem. As more sponsors and money come to SC2, all it takes is for one of those sponsors to potentially see one of their teams on one of these videos perhaps taking things too far and then that money disappears. Same things happen in sports. That's why they try to clamp down as much as possible on the behavior of their players in the public sphere. At least where there are cameras or the team is acting in an official capacity. It's certainly possible that if a sponsor finds something on a stream in poor taste that they could revoke any type of sponsorship they have with a team. I don't think anything last night was really all that close to that, but it's definitely food for thought for the future. | ||
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Domokan
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What they do in there private life I just want to be unknown in fear that it may be vulgar and self destructive. | ||
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Phyrion
United States18 Posts
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
Sports don't grow because the people involved are professional. Look at the rise of the NFL, or more recently, the UFC. Sponsors come to a game because people like watching it. Then, once sponsorship is entrenched and the people invovled have something to lose, things get 'corporate.' Starcraft 2 has not reached that level. Slasher should be the Dana White saying he'll beat the hell out of Tito Ortiz, not the Dana White reprimanding Brock Lesnar for flipping off fans. | ||
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Gonzodamus
United States273 Posts
On November 09 2010 01:37 Takkara wrote: Same things happen in sports. That's why they try to clamp down as much as possible on the behavior of their players in the public sphere. At least where there are cameras or the team is acting in an official capacity. It's certainly possible that if a sponsor finds something on a stream in poor taste that they could revoke any type of sponsorship they have with a team.. Exactly! Basketball's a great example. The players tend to wear suits when they're not playing. If I'm not mistaken, injured players even wear suits when sitting on the bench. Keeps things easy, avoids problems and keeps things classy | ||
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doktorFunken
United States41 Posts
The difference between most professional sports and e-sports is that there's enough money involved in the "big four" sports (baseball, football, basketball, and hockey) to warrant handlers that do everything in their power to keep gay jokes and dick jokes out of the media. In e-sports, there's not enough money to warrant the handlers and as a result, the biggest names (who are, effectively, still kids by their age if not their actions) do the dumbest stuff in the most public way possible - by putting it on the internet. If people do want acceptance of e-sports by the mainstream (because obviously everyone wants the mainstream money), then the disappointing fact is that people are going to have to man up and learn some self control. That's what being a man is - it's not getting plastered and broadcasting it on the internet. Nobody's saying they can't have fun; what needs to be said is that you can't have your cake and eat it too. | ||
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Theoriginalrod
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ZomgTossRush
United States1041 Posts
On November 09 2010 01:43 Gonzodamus wrote: Exactly! Basketball's a great example. The players tend to wear suits when they're not playing. If I'm not mistaken, injured players even wear suits when sitting on the bench. Keeps things easy, avoids problems and keeps things classy I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure they have dress codes to follow, mandated by at least the league, and possibly the team(injured players). This was an issue an allen iverson used to come in with "gangster" clothing. Nowadays, most players don't care at all about the dress code, as they use it as a avenue for popularity. But yeah the point is still implied, just because you aren't in the default element, doesn't mean your actions don't impact your profession. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
and it saddens me that some people are so butthurt over some drunk joking(never been out eh?) that they complain about this and want to destroy it for others. if you dont like to see whats happening behind those closed doors cause their might be some not so perfectly appropriate speech then fine for you but trying to keep something like that from happening again is just crap. chill,take it easy and turn stuff of next time if you dont like it instead of opening a thread to complain about it like a bitter lonely 90 year old man ("stupid kids stop having fun! get off my lawn!") | ||
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Ohdamn
Germany765 Posts
On November 09 2010 00:08 Galleon.frigate wrote: ~Anselm.... Frankly I'm shocked... What DJWheat was giving people was a back stage pass to the 'afterparty' for MLG. He wasn't casting a turny, he wasn't booking interviews, though you may be been confused becuase people were actually be interviewed. What he was doing to giving the fans that couldn't be in Dallas a chance to hang with the boys at the afterparty and ask all the question you might if you were there. That is stright up fucking awesome (insert boob, and or joke lowering the standards of sc community here). Please take a second to relax and sit back. This wasn't a frat party. It was... guys who just worked there ass of for weeks/months, celebrating the end of a big event (that you're a huge fan of) and DJWheat put a camera in the room. if you don't want to watch drunk people be drunk... turn it off, but really think about the near unprecidented access you were just given before you complain that someone drunk... acted drunk. Also ... chill out a bit, you don't have be a fat boy jock to enjoy a couple of beers and shoot the shit. best post ever and exactly my first thought after reading the OP | ||
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Konki
United States42 Posts
EDIT: The point isnt if the was offended or not, its if the sponsors could get offended from something crazy happening at one of these events. | ||
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doktorFunken
United States41 Posts
And Day9 professes to abstain from alcohol and drugs. This makes him a great role model. Just wanted to throw that out there. | ||
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Vz0
Canada378 Posts
If he isn't then he can say and do whatever the f he wants. If they are getting paid, then yes I'd agree with this argument. The last thing I would like though is for "VOLUNTEERS" to have restrictions on their personal life simply because of their professional volunteering. | ||
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Solaris.playgu
Sweden480 Posts
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Barthus
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