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On November 09 2010 00:39 taintmachine wrote:
don't be a stingy nerd. when esports get really big, i bet those that complained about stuff like this will look back fondly on idra calling someone bad or a caster saying fuck, wishing everything wasn't so buttoned down.
it already happened with halo, and they still say ridiculous things on those casts. Regardless of what op thinks, it brings in more fans than it loses, because guess what? the audience isn't 50 YEAR OLD WOMEN. Its guys aged 16-34.
I hate op for making this an issue when its not.
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How about this OP, your a fucking prude and don't know what your talking about.
They weren't working so to expect anything less than whatever happened is straight up stupid.
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On November 09 2010 00:56 zarepath wrote:
This is a huge over-reaction to the OP. He watched and enjoyed the entire stream except for two final minutes that he thought had some inappropriate stuff. Knowing Slasher, I'm sure he DID do or say something stupid.
He personally has no problem with pros having after parties and is grateful for the stream, which was awesome.
But these are NOT bad points to bring up. You want more money/sponsors/attention? Act more professionally. He's not saying "never drink, party, or have fun;" he's saying "If you're going to live-stream while you do those things, it's not a bad idea to be a little more careful."
Calm down, folks.
While it's true a lot of people are overreacting, wouldn't you agree that you're still both basically asking "Add more fluff" when one of the main themes of Live on 3 is "No Fluff"
This isn't the first time they've made innuendos like these, it's part of being no fluff and what the viewers of Live on 3 enjoy/expect. Isn't it great that djWHEAT also sets aside time to have an SC2 specific show with some fluff called Weapon of Choice? There's also SotG which provides some fluff with JP being one of the front men for MLG to our community. No need to bring down a crew that do a TONNNN of work just for us.
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I'm not a racist and not trying to be a troll or anything but it really surprises me how something like this is always offensive to only US-Americans. Speaking as someone from Europe you guys over there have a very strange perspective on whats OK on media.
Showing all kinds of gory violence on any form of broadcast is good, but a few people hanging out and having fun and doing what everybody does when they had a few beers is beyond the line of whats acceptable. I really cant understand that attitude and how you can be bothered so much by this that you made a post about it.
Have you never been to a party or had any friends like this? This is such a non-issue to everyone else in the world, i really hope wheat and the other guys dont take your letter to heart and keep the fun and relaxed attitude they are having had so far.
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They were aware of the "line" issue (esp the EG manager), which is exactly why the camera stayed focused on the couch at all times. Except for that one pan around the room and all the times it was about to fall off 
People are too damned sensitive. They casted from the after-party because clearly there were a lot of people interested in what they had to show and say. It was a fun time and a place to tone down a filters a little bit. Of course people are need to vent after a big weekend like that. If this doesn't appeal to you, don't tune in.
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Please get drunk and say inappropriate things after the next MLG during an impromptu cast, it's entertaining. And don't listen to the PC police (who knew that they existed in the form of 20-something male gamers?)
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I enjoyed watching the stream, didn't see the stuff at the end that's being talked about, but I didn't watch the entire thing.
If that's the sort of stuff that did happen at the end though, it's pretty bad form. These people are representational of the community, and we'd like to be taken seriously, so those things need to just not happen on camera.
People would be upset and people would be apologizing in any other professional situation, so I pretty much agree with the OP.
It is hard to have an entertaining video of a party without somebody doing something offensive, but that's just the way parties are. Don't film them.
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On November 09 2010 00:25 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2010 00:17 MaleficOR wrote:On November 09 2010 00:16 Aegeis wrote:
I agree with the OP, it's cool in all if they get dunk after a event but I don't really want to see it. Don't watch it? Just a thought. Did someone have a gun to your head? Whats with people saying things like this? Of course fans want to watch after-event shows like this, but it did get out of hand and was pretty awful to watch at some points and kind of hard to hear whats going on with all the noise there. I preferred the SOTG minicasts way more from last event. Why do people cry so much over others trying to give constructive criticism? I'm sure the LO3 people are happy to hear that people care a lot about their show enough to try to help them become better and keep them from doing things that annoy some of the people who always like their work, so that they can adjust and as many as possible can watch it and enjoy it.
What the shitcock.
"This was terrible, next time don't have a loud afterparty!".
This was NOT a State of the Game. This was not an "after-event show". This was Wheat casting a live stream from a party he was at.
If you don't want to watch a live stream from a party he was at, don't watch it.
I'm all for professionalism, I actually do object to JP using the word "retard" in an official MLG interview, because that is indeed the public face of esports.
That stream was not the public face of anything or anyone. Absolutely no one who's not a hardcore fan of the scene would ever watch a multiple hour stream of drunk progamers that sounded and looked so damned awful. And if you're a hardcore fan of the scene you're not going to care whether they make off-color remarks by the 4 hour mark.
Personally I enjoyed it, had it playing in the background at work today, refreshing to see a more casual side of a lot of these players/casters/etc.
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I can see the OP's point, kinda, but it seems a little excessive and bordering on pretentious. Frankly, I think the after-party cast was the best part of MLG, and hope they do it after all events. Its awesome to see that these guys are ordinary douchebags just like us lol. I thought the blowjob jokes were funny tbh, but maybe the female-gamer aspect was a little over the line. I'm not talking about professionalism though, just general taste. But hell, if she was fine with it, then I don't see a need to white-knight about it.
I have to say that I think Wheat and the crew are the model of professionalism when on the clock (casting). But lets be honest here, the majority of gamers are young men between the ages of 16-30, who find things like screaming FUCK and blowjob jokes humorous (notice I said majority). If anyone doesn't fall into this bracket, they don't necessarily need to watch the unofficial content.
I'm not going to rag on the OP for this, but I think an OPEN LETTER was a little much considering your basis for writing it. This is probably one opinion you could have kept to yourself.
-PEACE
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OP, you are being far too pedantic here.
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Also, if you're so offended by fellatio jokes, where is your letter-writing campaign about the rampant anal sex innuendo between Day9 and Wheat. During actual games!
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!
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haters gonna hate
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If you don't like it don't watch it simple as.
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That cast was awesome, I watched the whole thing. It was great to see all the players, Day9 and DJWheat in a relaxed environment.
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Non-recorded live stream of a party on a Sunday night at 1AM EST, I don't think the non-addicted-to-SC2 casual media is watching.
And there really wasn't anything that dirty aside from (maybe) Huk, who just doesn't give a Huk.
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Ya I can understand both sides of this argument, my only concern is that lets say one of the key sponsors or future sponsors watched this. It probably wouldn't make the best impression for a sponsor. That's my only concern.
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Sponsors are going to look at this and think, "hey, this is a good scene for 'unofficial' marketing." Man, some of you guys are seriously so sheltered
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Oh the irony. So many people telling OP to get the stick out of his ass.
And yet their overreaction to a mannered criticism shows them to be way more uptight than the OP.
Edit for grammer. Because I like looking intelligent on the internets.
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