An open letter to djWheat and the Liveon3 folks - Page 3

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zeru

8156 Posts

November 08 2010 15:25 GMT

#41

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maliceee

United States634 Posts

November 08 2010 15:26 GMT

#42

In all seriousness, stop being a politically correct baby. Sexual harassment suit lol. Don't ruin the behind the scenes action for the rest of us by acting like a 60 year old feminist writing a letter about being offended.

Straylight

Canada706 Posts

November 08 2010 15:26 GMT

#43

This Anselm dude is kinda uptight...

Stratus

United States38 Posts

November 08 2010 15:28 GMT

#44

On November 09 2010 00:25 zeru wrote:

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Whats with people saying things like this? Thats like coming up to you yelling in your ear and not stopping and saying if you dont like it dont listen to it.

Of course fans want to watch after-event shows like this, but it did get out of hand and was pretty awful to watch at some points and kind of hard to hear whats going on with all the noise there. I preferred the SOTG minicasts way more from last event.

Why do people cry so much over others trying to give constructive criticism? I'm sure the LO3 people are happy to hear that people care a lot about their show enough to try to help them become better and keep them from doing things that annoy some of the people who always like their work, so that they can adjust and as many as possible can watch it and enjoy it.

You cant please everyone.

Sfydjklm

United States9218 Posts

November 08 2010 15:29 GMT

#45

On November 09 2010 00:20 konicki wrote:
Wow, everyone here responding to this guys letter cant get through their post without talking about themselves in some fashion... its so fucking easy to read his letter, call him out as saying something he didnt, like "drinking is bad".

The dude has no problem with them having gotten drunk, OK, fine they had a good time, but the fact that they would post their drunkenness does and will turn some people off.

The fact that "you" like posting that "you" like having fun is irrelevant and honestly just sounds like something you should post on facebook for some more attention. Neglecting that e-sports has a reputation to uphold and that the casters for the main events might want to put a little more thought into footie they make public will only be relevant when they've finally put up something they regret having done so.

you're just used to tv anchors pretending that they dont pee poop or have a penis and/or a vagina.
Either way this is essentially backstage footage, so anything goes. And there is nothing they can possibly regret putting up- just look at Hilton's or Kardashian's fame.

Maaku

United Kingdom142 Posts

November 08 2010 15:30 GMT

#46

guess op hasn't been to a party before.

Hittegods

Stockholm4641 Posts

November 08 2010 15:31 GMT

#47

Unpaid and unofficial or not, if you do something publicly that seems official or related with a main event, it will affect the view of the official event. That is just a general statement without having seen this broadcast.

TheFinalWord

Australia790 Posts

November 08 2010 15:33 GMT

#48

On November 09 2010 00:25 zeru wrote:

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Whats with people saying things like this? Thats like coming up to you yelling in your ear and not stopping and saying if you dont like it dont listen to it.

This analagy is so bad I can't help but correct it. It's more like someone making a really awesome after show stream with a bunch of your favourite sports stars but you don't like it so you turn it off.

Tiax;mous

669 Posts

November 08 2010 15:33 GMT

#49

E-sports is a serious business , no fun allowed -_- sure that'll attract more people...

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RoyalCheese

Czech Republic745 Posts

November 08 2010 15:34 GMT

#50

I don't think this post its valid at all. The beauty of Live on Three is that there is no fluff and I honestly think that its nice to have a scope into what is going on after the tournament is done. Also, many people say it got out of hand, but honestly, who are you to judge that?

If you don't like it, just don't watch it. Life is as simple as that. The live on three is not part of the tournament anyway. Please lo3, keep it real.

Gonzodamus

United States273 Posts

November 08 2010 15:35 GMT

#51

I think streamers need to remember that it's not just the oldschool players and familiar fans watching. There are a lot of new folks to the scene, and that sort of thing could turn people off. The scene is getting big, and so are expectations.

It didn't bother me personally, since the whole thing had a party atmosphere, but I could see how that kind of attitude could bother folks.

Cedstick

Canada3336 Posts

November 08 2010 15:36 GMT

#52

Do you guys think sports and it's stars are as famous as they are by being consistent no-fun prudes? Sorry, guys, some people are jock-y. Deal with the fact that there are going to be loud-mouths stealing the limelight from the nerd-stars you're trying to live through.

JFlame

Canada26 Posts

November 08 2010 15:37 GMT

#53

Come on all cut the guy some slack, he already said he didn't really watch LO3 and thus doesn't really know djWheat. On casts Wheat is reigns in his comments but on LO3 he pretty much says whatever he wants, Zlasher makes some ridiculous comment and Wheat would go apeshit on him so yeah. Take it from his perspective where Wheat generally comments 'professionally' and this cast wasn't 'professional' on any standard.

So he thinks comments at the end of the cast weren't 'professional' and reduces the likelihood that esports will be taken seriously. This is true, if a bunch of casts were like this where people could say whatever they want on the air there's no way it would be adopted 'mainstream'. I'm pretty sure Wheat had this conversation on his show at some point talking about Team Spooky for SSF4 where there comments are pretty ridiculous. 'Salty' and words of similar and more vulgar nature are thrown about all the time.

Now given that the cast wasn't of professional quality they were just doing it for fun whatever, don't really need to comment on whether or not the cast was proper. Just be happy it was done and it was cool to hear comments from the pros in a casual setting.

Slardar

Canada7593 Posts

November 08 2010 15:37 GMT

#54

Normally I don't watch things like this but that was the best livecast of anything ever. Props to Scoots(for the camera love for the fans), Wheat for being awesome, Slasher for setting up the stream, Day9 for temporarily killing the stream, JP for organizing shit, Inka for calling Cella a racist term then saying absolutely nothing on his entire guest appearance, Incontrol is a beast, Machine had solid insight on zerg strategy, HuK for being smashed and for the lulz, etc etc. OP has got to be a troll, there's so much sex in mainstream media it's ridiculous, as if a BJ is offensive. Get off your high horse.

Antedelerium

United States224 Posts

November 08 2010 15:38 GMT

#55

If you want to talk about the level of professionalism or what they should be saying/doing while on camera, then just compare this to what would happen in the 'real' sports world. If you saw some NBA or NFL superstars doing that, I don't really think it would be a big deal to see this at the afterparty of their own championship. Sure, they may not gain too many mature fans if they acted like partyboys in front of the camera, but I don't think David Stern (NBA commissioner) would really be justified in giving them a slap on the wrist. Was it professional? No, not really. Was it wrong? Again, not really. Was it entertaining? Absolutely. I agree that there may have been a fine line they walked and that it might have been bad if the jokes started getting at little too tasteless or crass, but they didn't.

Accer

Korea (South)319 Posts

November 08 2010 15:39 GMT

#56

I can understand the concern but since it was a private cast and had nothing to do with MLG I think it was perfectly fine. If anything I think the one thing esports needs is for people to realize that there is more to the scene then nerdy "kids" playing video games 12 hours a day (this isn't my view but one of the average outsider of course), it's nice to see people having fun at these events.

taintmachine

United States431 Posts

November 08 2010 15:39 GMT

#57

don't be a stingy nerd. when esports get really big, i bet those that complained about stuff like this will look back fondly on idra calling someone bad or a caster saying fuck, wishing everything wasn't so buttoned down.

Merikh

United States918 Posts

November 08 2010 15:39 GMT

#58

You know what I love about Live On Three? The aspect of "No Fluff" being involved. :D