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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
October 11 2010 18:29 GMT
#61
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dyodyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Philippines578 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 19:25:03
October 11 2010 18:41 GMT
#62
Its the job of the person/company selling the trainers/hack to inform/warn their users that using that program goes constitutes breaking Blizzard's (or any other game company's) EULA.

Ban those hackers.

edit:
Just reread the article linked in the op:
“We will continue to produce cheats and trainers that work in single player games because we believe it is each person’s right to be able to fully enjoy what each game has to offer,” O’Rorke said of his website. “It may take extra time on our part to safely separate the trainer's functions so that they only work in single player modes, but we will not simply give up and deny our users the ability to cheat in a game that they have purchased just because Blizzard doesn't care about their customers. Blizzard is the real loser here. By lumping all cheaters into the same category and banning people for using single player cheats, they are losing the support of gamers around the world.”


I loled. I would argue that they are doing this because they actually care about (some) of their customers. They should change the last sentence to "losing the support of hackers around the world".

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Undercroft
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom166 Posts
October 11 2010 18:51 GMT
#63
Tbh the only way i'd approve of it even more is if blizz would also ban them from all other games attached to that battlenet account (like wow accounts for example). hackers should have all their games banned.
Our dronessssss are under attaahck!!
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
October 11 2010 20:13 GMT
#64
“We will continue to produce cheats and trainers that work in single player games because we believe it is each person’s right to be able to fully enjoy what each game has to offer,” O’Rorke said of his website. “It may take extra time on our part to safely separate the trainer's functions so that they only work in single player modes, but we will not simply give up and deny our users the ability to cheat in a game that they have purchased just because Blizzard doesn't care about their customers. Blizzard is the real loser here. By lumping all cheaters into the same category and banning people for using single player cheats, they are losing the support of gamers around the world.”

And what he actually meant:
"I'm pissed that Blizzard is undermining my illegal business. I liked making lots of monies hacking into SC2 and this is really annoying. I am the real loser here, since Blizzard doesn't care about a few losers who just undermine the real community.
By lumping all the cheaters who come to websites like mine into one group, Blizzard is destroying the myth I like to push that we are just legitimately helping people enjoy the game more and not trying to sell cool hacks for noobs to abuse on the ladder, and thus gaining the respect of all the real gamers out there."
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11892 Posts
October 11 2010 22:20 GMT
#65
I would also advise everybody to read that article, it is so funny. I mean, they are even acting like they have actual sources, all with quoting and stuff. But they basically only quote one guy that works at their website (Probably the only person that was not the one writing that article), and even one of their customers who managed to get banned and was angry afterwards.
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
October 11 2010 22:24 GMT
#66
This is kinda absurd... although it's hard to say whether they were just banning anyone who was using a cheat. They probably don't care if you are using it for single player or multi player but just that you are messing with their game. I personally wouldn't try to use some kind of hack.
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
whiteguycash
Profile Joined April 2010
United States476 Posts
October 11 2010 22:50 GMT
#67
why would anyone need to cheat in Single player?
orcslayermac
Profile Joined July 2010
United States138 Posts
October 11 2010 22:58 GMT
#68
I don't understand how its a problem banning cheaters even if its just single player. I imagine a lot cheat to get achievement points. Have we heard of people getting banned on Xbox Live for cheating in single player games to get points? Yes. I have no problem with these people getting banned.

Now, if the cheating nets absolutely no gains in achievement points or anything of that sort and the messing with game files and using 3rd party applications had nothing to do with any sort of online play (achievement points, multiplayer games etc) then I would consider the move extremely harsh. It however is Blizzard's game and these people did accept the EULA.
Terran A+move... Right into my banelings? Yes please!
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 23:02:17
October 11 2010 23:01 GMT
#69
I say that for all fuzzy issues, people should be suspended or warned before banned. The issue seems that people don't know that what they're doing is a bannable offense.

After that, I don't see a problem with blizzard banning people who violate their ToS. I don't think you can blame blizzard for that.
DX_4
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany180 Posts
October 11 2010 23:02 GMT
#70
On October 12 2010 02:06 iounas wrote:
Banning people for single player is retarded..
If anybody actually cares about achievements you are a fag and should go back to consoles..
Achievements are a playgu infesting modern games..

You are missing the point a bit.
It is not so much about achievements as such, but more about Blizzard's general stance towards people who are not playing by the rules, a.k.a. the EULA/ToS.

While the overall impact of this is debatable to a degree, I still fully agree with Blizzard's approach.
They are simply going by their EULA/ToS, and those clearly state that modifying files puts your account at risk, regardless of singleplayer or multiplayer, period.
As mentioned a couple of times, you are free to use the built-in codes to beat the game if you so wish.

On a sidenote, arguments along the lines of "I don't like X, therefore anyone who likes X is a Y and should go bugger off to Z instead" don't really add anything to the discussion and are, frankly, narrowminded.
You don't like achievements, that's fair enough.
I am not a particular fan either; other people spend the majority of their SC2 time on getting them.
Hardly a reason for insults.
There is no spoon
Karok
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands142 Posts
October 11 2010 23:32 GMT
#71
I'm with iounas on this one. I'm not a competitive player at all, and for the record if these players were banned for cheating in any way in the MULTIPLAYER part of the game I'd be all for it, but singleplayer? come the fuck on who gives a rats ass if some sub-copper player cheats his way to a shiny kerrigan avatar and all the singleplayer achievements?

The kid won't harm anyone with it, and any competitive player worth his salt wont give a shit about it either since it does not affect him in the slightest, while this is a different story if mr copper would hack his way into platinum and beat the guy with some hacks.

Throwing the multiplayer and singleplayer cheaters on one pile is just a load of crap.
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