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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:28 FALAPARK wrote: O.o so sesitive......... Anyways I dont think he deserved such a ban.what rule did he break? No effort. No new info. Also, "Opinion threads regarding specific units, UI and game mechanics are unnecessary. " source: sc2 forum guidelines. | ||
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:02 Vei wrote: ironically while trolling sc2 players with your sig Kennigit is allowed to be hypocritical apparently. He's even allowed to reply with just a meme picture. *prepares for ban for daring to speak about admin hypocrisy*  User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Kishkumen
United States650 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:25 Manifesto7 wrote: This thread is like christmas. All the martyrs are coming out like moths to a flame. | ||
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jambam
United States324 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:29 DonKey_ wrote: I think the mods should secretly create threads like these just to weed out dumb asses and keep TL a more intelligent place Lmao! That would be awesome! | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
Umm.. not sure what to say to that. | ||
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CheAse
Canada919 Posts
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allyourbase
United States243 Posts
Two things to note in the game 1. The probes had not fully saturated yet, the protoss's income jumped to 1000+ a few seconds later. 2. The terran's income was not consistantly 700. It would jump to 700 when all 3 of his mules returned, then slowly fall back down to 400 while the mules mined. Therefore, the Terran's real income was probably between the two extremes. About 500 or 600. Edit: and no, it was on a normal patch, not gold. | ||
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Sylvr
United States524 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:33 CheAse wrote: omg i burst out laughing while reading this thread in the middle of my lecture. You mean BUST out laughing. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:33 CheAse wrote: omg i burst out laughing while reading this thread in the middle of my lecture. Congrats on the 2v1 btw! "Not this time...not Starcraft." A tear actually came to my eye  EDIT: Sylvr, excellent Day9 shoutout. | ||
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lastmotion
368 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:17 dcberkeley wrote: WRONG WRONG WRONG mules are TEMPORARY, this is (probably) on a gold patch, if you snipe mules you lose all that income, chrono boost makes workers OR production, mules can't mine gas, inject does both econ or production etc, etc, etc. There needs to be context for stuff to make sense. So we assume its on a gold patch? "If you snipe all the mules..." is really a shitty argument. That's like saying "If you kill all your opponent's probes, he won't get any income anymore" No really? T's reactors speeds up production as well. Injected larva is indirect boost to economy which is worse than a direct boot to economy. You make more workers to get more minerals but this isn't that great when ur mineral line is already saturated or you are in a situation under aggression and u use up all your larva for workers when u need units I understand you feel the need to defend ur race but your line of reasoning sucks. AND his picture, despite his style of posting, does hold significant meaning | ||
boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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lastmotion
368 Posts
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
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Herculix
United States946 Posts
i don't remember exactly but i'm pretty sure the terran had 1 mule saved up by the time he lifted, he had 3 by the time he landed (long flight distance), then had a fully saturated base worth of income after losing literally everything but the OC itself. even though it's temporary, it's a long enough time to rebuild things and get your stable economy going. he could make more barracks, he could rebuild his economy, he could produce units... with like 3 MULEs. i try to be open minded, but i don't see how this even approaches balanced. i've learned to accept that certain things are just terran's advantage but at some point the terran player has to run out of safety nets. usually you'd think that was some time after he lost all of his workers and couldn't harvest anything. apparently not if you know how to build an OC. what that picture doesn't show is that even after the mass MULEs died, and it was back to 1 MULE, the terran still had an income of about 600 to 800 despite the worker count being like 5-38. that to me is even more telling. the daily will probably be up tomorrow and you guys will see. probably should've waited until then to post this thread at the least. | ||
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Rodregeus
Australia126 Posts
On October 05 2010 12:26 vica wrote: 1 is the only valid point. 2 is untrue. There were 3 MULEs. 3 is untrue. All workers were on Blue Minerals. 4 is untrue. MULEs ignore saturation. They do not have any delay. Please get the facts straight, thank you. This is not arguing for or against imbalance. I am just disproving him. Reading comprehension is usually a good skill to have. I'm not talking purely about balance, I'm saying the picture is potentially miss leading due to the lack of provided information. I could come in here with a screen shot of 100 SCVs vs 20 Probes, with the probes mining a higher income, and add no extra evidence. It would have exactly the same merit as the picture in the OP. How many patches were each mining from? Were they even all mining? Had some probes JUST been killed off? Were they long distance mining? You miss understood the entire point of the post. But hey, well done on blindly jumping in to try and throw around spite filled rebuttals just because you can. Ohh forums, how i love thee. Also, on a side note about the lack of delay. Do the MULEs ignore SCVs and other MULEs mining on the patch ENTIRELY? Or simple take priority over the SCV that would otherwise be mining the patch? Would be good to know.  | ||
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TLOBrian
United States453 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Don't disagree with the admins Don't make jokes about the mods Oh well, you gotta pick your battles guys! Especially in imbalance arguements. Just DONT make imbalance arguements anymore, it's not worth it. It's like preaching to the choir, they already know what's broken. It just takes Blizzard a long time to patch the completely broken-ness : P edit: awesome thread btw. | ||
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Kishkumen
United States650 Posts
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ryanAnger
United States838 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Saying "in before i get banned" gets you banned though. We take martyr requests at 100% face value. | ||
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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