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Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 03:56:34
October 05 2010 03:56 GMT
#101
On October 05 2010 12:41 Kennigit wrote:
Nope, you can disagree with mods all you want. In fact the guy who said i get away with posting memes in bans is 100% right about it "not being fair". When he dedicates 4 more years of his life to making TL great then he can do the same.

Saying "in before i get banned" gets you banned though. We take martyr requests at 100% face value.


oooooooooowned!

actually lol'd out loud at the bolded line xD


This thread is too much win.
Sylvr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States524 Posts
October 05 2010 03:57 GMT
#102
On October 05 2010 12:49 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 12:38 Rodregeus wrote:
On October 05 2010 12:26 vica wrote:
1 is the only valid point.
2 is untrue. There were 3 MULEs.
3 is untrue. All workers were on Blue Minerals.
4 is untrue. MULEs ignore saturation. They do not have any delay.
Please get the facts straight, thank you.

This is not arguing for or against imbalance. I am just disproving him.


Reading comprehension is usually a good skill to have. I'm not talking purely about balance, I'm saying the picture is potentially miss leading due to the lack of provided information.

I could come in here with a screen shot of 100 SCVs vs 20 Probes, with the probes mining a higher income, and add no extra evidence. It would have exactly the same merit as the picture in the OP.

How many patches were each mining from? Were they even all mining? Had some probes JUST been killed off? Were they long distance mining?

You miss understood the entire point of the post. But hey, well done on blindly jumping in to try and throw around spite filled rebuttals just because you can. Ohh forums, how i love thee.

Also, on a side note about the lack of delay. Do the MULEs ignore SCVs and other MULEs mining on the patch ENTIRELY? Or simple take priority over the SCV that would otherwise be mining the patch? Would be good to know.


I think above someone posted the toss max income at 1200ish? well 3 mules return 810-900 mins over their lifetime of 1min(?) so thats 900 max income to 1200 max income, 24+ probes vs 3 mules in a more direct comparison.


MULEs are 90 seconds, and you can't get up to 900 anymore since they patched Mineral Boosting. 3 MULEs will net 720-810 depending on the distance between the mineral patch and the CC. The per-minute value of 3 MULEs is therefor 480-540 m/min
junemermaid
Profile Joined September 2006
United States981 Posts
October 05 2010 03:57 GMT
#103
On October 05 2010 12:10 youngminii wrote:
I would hate SC2 players too if I was a bw player, just look at this thread. LOOK AT IT.


rofl. the brood war section wasn't all roses and rainbows itself and had plenty of garbage posts.
the UMP says YER OUT
Terrifyer
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States338 Posts
October 05 2010 03:58 GMT
#104
Mules are so much more forgiving than larvae inject, what the crap!
eat shit and die
Sanasante
Profile Joined March 2010
United States321 Posts
October 05 2010 03:59 GMT
#105
lol the picture captures a point in time (
It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light
Guilty
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada812 Posts
October 05 2010 03:59 GMT
#106
At this rate, im going to have to favourite the automated ban thread. Lol.

Great stuff, cant help but laugh.
"How hard could it be?" -J. Clarkson
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
October 05 2010 03:59 GMT
#107
This thread scares me T.T so many red letters!. But i guess we wont miss the OP
Kishkumen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States650 Posts
October 05 2010 04:02 GMT
#108
On October 05 2010 12:48 chimthegrim2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 12:23 chimthegrim wrote:
I think the picture summed up what he was saying just fine unless you are not a Starcraft player. TL is like communist China when it comes to free speech.



User was banned for this post.


Bummer for that guy.

User was banned for this post.


And now he's pitying himself? I mean, if you're going to try to stir up sympathy for yourself, at least don't make your username the same thing only with a 2 at the end.

This thread is too hilarious.
Weird, last time I checked the UN said you need to have at least 200 APM and be rainbow league to be called human. —Liquid`TLO
TLOBrian
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States453 Posts
October 05 2010 04:02 GMT
#109
On October 05 2010 12:58 Terrifyer wrote:
Mules are so much more forgiving than larvae inject, what the crap!


Don't do it man, it's not worth it!

Mules ARE way more forgiving than larva inject, but you have to remember that race mechanics aren't the same yadayada. I personally don't agree with it, but I'm going to play angels advocate and say that they have mules because Zerg and Protoss can get workers out REALLY fast with Chrono and larvae inject hatching.
Steven Bonnell II is the friggin man.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 04:11:02
October 05 2010 04:04 GMT
#110
"chimthegrim was just banned by Manifesto7.

That account was created on 2010-06-30 01:03:27 and had 31 posts.

Reason: "I think the picture summed up what he was saying just fine unless you are not a Starcraft player. TL is like communist China when it comes to free speech. "

Over the wall with you."

LOL. So many ban of the week worthy shit here
sk`
Profile Joined November 2008
Japan442 Posts
October 05 2010 04:04 GMT
#111
Well, the Mule mechanic is the only one that actually gives you minerals for free. The others you have to spend to get. But sure... it is a balanced mechanic.
www.pureesports.com
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
October 05 2010 04:05 GMT
#112
Lol, the stats stayed like that for 2 seconds then changed drastically. This was like 5 seconds after all of his SCV's were killed -_-
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 05 2010 04:05 GMT
#113
[00:00:31] [@s2kal|Jibba] here's a tip for anyone thinking of posting in the mules are op thread
[00:00:32] [@s2kal|Jibba] don't
[00:00:52] [Lyset] wait... people are posting in it?
[00:01:06] [Lyset] thought it was obvious trollbait
[00:01:09] [@s2kal|Jibba] yes, it's aggrevating for anyone that's a decent poster
[00:01:17] [@s2kal|Jibba] it's like chasing a raven off creep with hydras
[00:01:21] [@s2kal|Jibba] YOU'RE GONNA GET BLOWN UP
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
October 05 2010 04:06 GMT
#114
On October 05 2010 13:02 Kishkumen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 12:48 chimthegrim2 wrote:
On October 05 2010 12:23 chimthegrim wrote:
I think the picture summed up what he was saying just fine unless you are not a Starcraft player. TL is like communist China when it comes to free speech.



User was banned for this post.


Bummer for that guy.

User was banned for this post.


And now he's pitying himself? I mean, if you're going to try to stir up sympathy for yourself, at least don't make your username the same thing only with a 2 at the end.

This thread is too hilarious.


Lol im actually debating whether he is that stupid... Maybe it really was a different user.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
October 05 2010 04:07 GMT
#115
this picture mean nothing, you should think he is in 1 base so he is way over saturated, so its 3 mule vs 24 probe.

wait... what ?
(。◕ ω ◕。) Beer Time !!!! (。◕ ω ◕。)
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
October 05 2010 04:08 GMT
#116
We're weeding out a lot of the bad ones in this thread. I'm glad.
Zvendetta
Profile Joined July 2010
United States321 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 04:10:39
October 05 2010 04:09 GMT
#117
I think that's the weird thing about having threads like these open- they just invite more bad behavior.
Throughout these pages there were probably like 4 people permabanned

However, it is hilarious to read someone's bad post and know there's the red font of death in it-
*reads first two lines*
me Thinks, that's worth a temp ban
*reads "Go ahead, ban me!! idc"
I know where that is going

Way to read the stickies everyone rofl...
"Its as if I can see the gears of the Eternal Alchemy spinning before, and I can almost reach out and turn them with my hands."
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 05 2010 04:09 GMT
#118
On October 05 2010 13:06 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2010 13:02 Kishkumen wrote:
On October 05 2010 12:48 chimthegrim2 wrote:
On October 05 2010 12:23 chimthegrim wrote:
I think the picture summed up what he was saying just fine unless you are not a Starcraft player. TL is like communist China when it comes to free speech.



User was banned for this post.


Bummer for that guy.

User was banned for this post.


And now he's pitying himself? I mean, if you're going to try to stir up sympathy for yourself, at least don't make your username the same thing only with a 2 at the end.

This thread is too hilarious.


Lol im actually debating whether he is that stupid... Maybe it really was a different user.

It's the same person.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Rodregeus
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia126 Posts
October 05 2010 04:10 GMT
#119
On October 05 2010 12:51 kxr1der wrote:

MULES can mine at the same time as an SCV on a mineral patch, but i dont think 2 MULES can mine on one patch.


Ahh awesome thank you. :D

Now that I have learned something today I'm gonna go tell my boss that I'm going home. >.>
Fear the reaper. // lol never mind.
xephon
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada38 Posts
October 05 2010 04:11 GMT
#120
.

This thread is amazing.

Never close this thread pls.

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