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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
October 05 2010 03:14 GMT
#21
I lol'd when I saw the pic.... I lol'd even harder when I saw kennigit's post.
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andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
October 05 2010 03:14 GMT
#22
lol other than the fact that this has been mentioned in a lot of threads i actually find this image quite amusing. I hope OP would've posted that on another of the other ones.
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Cerecyte
Profile Joined July 2010
United States15 Posts
October 05 2010 03:14 GMT
#23
Wtf. Why would you ban him for this post. Its absolutely insane the income hes receiving from just 3 mules vs 38 probes.

Talk about biased censorship.

I look forward to being baned. Given that if you baned him you most certainly have to ban anyone defending his right to post this.

User was banned for this post.
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 03:15:32
October 05 2010 03:15 GMT
#24
It is interesting, though, to note that 3 mules is equivalent to one fully saturated mineral line. So a terran who has 3 bases is effectively on 4 bases.

I'm not saying that its OP, but its an important thing to know as a player.
. . . nevermore
thezergk
Profile Joined October 2009
United States492 Posts
October 05 2010 03:15 GMT
#25
lol terrible thread (although I do think it is ridiculous at times) how mules can sustain so much income at no supply . . . but the match ups are pretty balanced so it doesnt matter.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
October 05 2010 03:15 GMT
#26
On October 05 2010 12:00 Kennigit wrote:
Leaving this open as an example for how to get banned for making a piece of garbage thread.

LOL I was salivating when I clicked this thread.
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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
October 05 2010 03:16 GMT
#27
Could have got away from if he blogged it with couple more lines.
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
October 05 2010 03:17 GMT
#28
WRONG WRONG WRONG

mules are TEMPORARY, this is (probably) on a gold patch, if you snipe mules you lose all that income, chrono boost makes workers OR production, mules can't mine gas, inject does both econ or production etc, etc, etc.

There needs to be context for stuff to make sense.
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Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 03:19:25
October 05 2010 03:17 GMT
#29
On October 05 2010 12:13 Fianchetto wrote:
Whys the thread garbage? A picture says 1000 words


Well he could have screencapped 2 sec later when the income is at 300 or well mentioned that the terran had 3 mules saved up and that the toss had that one one base (waayyy oversaturated meaning like 15 of those probes aren't doing anything, the toss didn't have gas taken at his one base yet I believe).

It's just so biased...
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
October 05 2010 03:17 GMT
#30
I was watching the daily, and was waiting for someone to post this (in all fairness, day9 actually himself asked someone to post it on TL). Too bad he got temp banned though (been there), so welcome back after the 2 days.
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Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
October 05 2010 03:18 GMT
#31
Terran gets the ability to supersaturate while protoss can speed up not only the production of probes, but units/upgrades.

I don't see the problem.
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IPlaySC
Profile Joined June 2010
United States79 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 03:20:51
October 05 2010 03:18 GMT
#32
i hope this becomes epic like
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=122514
probably not though, since OP isnt here to make a fool of himself...
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
October 05 2010 03:19 GMT
#33
On October 05 2010 12:17 mierin wrote:
I was watching the daily, and was waiting for someone to post this (in all fairness, day9 actually himself asked someone to post it on TL). Too bad he got temp banned though (been there), so welcome back after the 2 days.


day9 has been doing the sarcastic "terran op" "banshee get 50 kills" "planetary fortresses are invincible" for a while now

TL mods probably though it was funny too, a month ago, but probably get just super annoyed now

oh well, can't blame them, their forum their rules
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
October 05 2010 03:19 GMT
#34
I feel like this thread is just a giant big trap for poor unsuspecting whiners to fall in.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-05 03:21:19
October 05 2010 03:20 GMT
#35
On October 05 2010 12:11 Fa1nT wrote:
What rule did the OP violate exactly? o.o

To little effort?


Basically doing everything he shouldn't in am imba thread:
- short, no effort whatsoever
- pathetic "proof" that doesn't take anything into account (how many patches are the probes mining off from example? theres 38 probes but if it was in 1 base then that's barely better than 24, etc)
- shortsighted argument
- completely unsubstantiated claim with no effort at a developed argument , or any elaboration beyond a picture and a sentence
- Covering a topic that's been beaten to death, and has been addressed by better players with better arguements.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Rodregeus
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia126 Posts
October 05 2010 03:21 GMT
#36
On October 05 2010 12:15 QuothTheRaven wrote:
It is interesting, though, to note that 3 mules is equivalent to one fully saturated mineral line. So a terran who has 3 bases is effectively on 4 bases.

I'm not saying that its OP, but its an important thing to know as a player.


1) Mules are not constant unless you have a lot of OCs. So it's a short stint of fast income, instead of a short stint of faster production capacity by the other 2 races.

2) This picture could very easily be miss leading. Say he dropped 12 mules at once. And this income tab was up while they all started to run out of energy. The video is paused, and the screen shot is taken while the number of mules reads "3", but the income has not yet adjusted accordingly.

3) Mules could be on gold, workers on blue.

4) Mules aren't going to be as effective if dumped on a fully saturated line due to the delay each time they try to mine minerals.
Fear the reaper. // lol never mind.
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
October 05 2010 03:21 GMT
#37
I am SOOOOO GLAD the admins are cracking down on these "thats so IMBA" fags...

and you know I'm not trying to say discussion about balance is a bad thing but, when there has been 30 other threads about the same thing created and you even acknowledge that fact in your post yet you still decide to make a thread SOMETHING IS WRONG.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
October 05 2010 03:21 GMT
#38
I hope your not the guy who also tagged day9's facebook on this image and said "Terran was Imba, this is proof". I mean cmon thats a bit disrespectful and I'm sure he gets enough notifications as it is.
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Phenrei
Profile Joined July 2010
United States162 Posts
October 05 2010 03:22 GMT
#39
On October 05 2010 12:17 dcberkeley wrote:
WRONG WRONG WRONG

mules are TEMPORARY, this is (probably) on a gold patch, if you snipe mules you lose all that income, chrono boost makes workers OR production, mules can't mine gas, inject does both econ or production etc, etc, etc.

There needs to be context for stuff to make sense.


Watch the last day9 daily. It was a base trade situation, the T had to lift his CC to the island and had 0 workers left. He dropped 3 mules from the energy generated while flying and was earning roughly half (the numbers kept shifting) the mineral income as the P who had a fully saturated base.

Yes it's temporary, yes the other races have macro mechanics, no neither of those other mechanics are a direct transfer between energy and minerals (over and above other saturation), no the game is not that simple, yes it's still a ridiculous thing to look at (and no, that's not necessarily a bad thing given the history of OP things from BW, but no, SC2 isn't BW).
chimthegrim
Profile Joined June 2010
United States31 Posts
October 05 2010 03:23 GMT
#40
I think the picture summed up what he was saying just fine unless you are not a Starcraft player. TL is like communist China when it comes to free speech.



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