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Hi guys
My mouse (a Razer Naga) can create macros with timed delays between mouseclicks/keystrokes. Is this considered cheating?
I'm not talking about whether or not you feel that such a mouse puts players at at advantage to others, and should therefore not be allowed, instead I am talking about whether or not using my mouse for macros (with timed delays between each event) is considered breaking in-game rules set down by Blizzard. For example, in World of Warcraft performing more than one in-game event per second is considered a breach of the Terms of Service and is therefore bannable. However, Starcraft seems not to have any global cooldowns or any mechanism to limit the speed at which events can take place.
Can anybody please let me know, preferably with a reliable source? If it's not considered cheating then I'm going to be posting a whole bunch of cool macros that i've designed whilst at my Summer job (It's data inputting, I get bored).
Cheers guys
P.S. if they are indeed "legal" does anyone know if there are any threads discussing macros? thanks 
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There was a thread in the SC2Armory about someone saying they got banned using a Macro Keyboard, I'm guessing the same would apply for this.
It is basically cheating since you're cutting the work in half while others are doing everything. These are made for things like WC3 or WoW but SC2 is different. I wouldn't suggest using them
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For example, in World of Warcraft performing more than one in-game event per second is considered a breach of the Terms of Service and is therefore bannable.
I laughed.
Don't use macros, in WoW or SC2.
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I am fairly certain I read somewhere that you are allowed to make 1:1 "macros", that is one button does one thing. So instead of pressing E for a probe I can click my mouse button for a probe. But I dont think 1:N is legal, that is where you do more than one thing with one click.
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an example of a macro i made work yesterday is for injecting larva with your all your queens in one click.
it takes just under 0.4 seconds to inject up to 7 hatcheries
this seems like cheating it's so good, but can you be banned for using it? need to know before i start using it online ;p
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In Blizzard terms of service for World of Warcraft at least you can make macros doing infinite ammount of stuff with one button, but each action had to correspond to one click. For example you could make a macro that makes you pick up, eat and digest a sandwich all in one button, but it had to be three seperate clicks for each action.
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On September 11 2010 08:14 MrPiccolo wrote:
an example of a macro i made work yesterday is for injecting larva with your all your queens in one click.
it takes just under 0.4 seconds to inject up to 7 hatcheries
this seems like cheating it's so good, but can you be banned for using it? need to know before i start using it online ;p
It's certainly a bannable offense, if that's what you're asking. Whether or not Blizzard is specifically looking for your exact hardware is up for debate. It's your risk to take. Warden (Blizzard's anti-hack) can snoop around your computer a bit, I'm sure.
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You can 100% get banned for using that macro and it is considered cheating.
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"in World of Warcraft performing more than one in-game event per second is considered a breach of the Terms of Service and is therefore bannable."
no? in PvP every spell i had that didn't start the global cooldown was macroed for maximum efficiency, i was never banned for this since everybody did it
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lolwow, i used tons of macroes in that game, go priest, follow main tank, make macro for healing, go eat dinner, i quit at 47 because a chimp can play that game.
Anyway, by the terms of agreement, using macroes is illegal
i had a macro in the beta, it pressed 1 and 2 as fast as possible, getting my APM to over 2000, when people watched my replays they got confused  but iwth teh delay in retail it's not really possible anymore
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On September 11 2010 08:14 MrPiccolo wrote:
an example of a macro i made work yesterday is for injecting larva with your all your queens in one click.
it takes just under 0.4 seconds to inject up to 7 hatcheries
this seems like cheating it's so good, but can you be banned for using it? need to know before i start using it online ;p
Yes this is cheating...
Is this not common sense? You're making the game easier for yourself by using certain equipment that lowers the needed APM in half or sometimes more. If you think about it for a minute you'll realize how cheap that is.
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On September 11 2010 08:16 lindn wrote:
"in World of Warcraft performing more than one in-game event per second is considered a breach of the Terms of Service and is therefore bannable."
no? in PvP every spell i had that didn't start the global cooldown was macroed for maximum efficiency, i was never banned for this since everybody did it
They changed it to be like Hynda said, you have to press the macro for each action/spell you wanted down. You could not just have a chain of 50 spells going off 1 press.
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as far as i know the only illegal thing is to use macros with more than one action in one button
(for example bind "S+Z" on one key for faster zergling macro)
but use single keys on other buttons is legal
(which is the case with razer naga 1-0 keys as long as you change nothing)
but i could be misstaken
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1 action per 1 click.
You cannot have a macro that will perform multiple actions for you. For example, clicking "P" should not automatically select your buildings and build a unit. That requires 2 clicks.
What is allowed is rebinding. That means you can set it so that "P" will let you build a specific unit. That is still 1 click. Or you can bind it so that "P" will select your Control Group 5. Also still 1 click.
Binds are not necessarily macros.
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i don't think you will find a solid source but i doubt that blizz cares about keyboard or mouse macros because too many people simply use them already and banning that many people is unjust. the purists like us at TL that hate all types of cheating that plagues our game and will obviously advise against the use of macros, but this community probably only accounts for a very little portion of SC2 players globally while the rest of the world has their logitech G or razer keyboards.
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On September 11 2010 08:23 Ohdamn wrote:
as far as i know the only illegal thing is to use macros with more than one action in one button
(for example bind "S+Z" on one key for faster zergling macro)
but use single keys on other buttons is legal
(which is the case with razer naga 1-0 keys as long as you change nothing)
but i could be misstaken
it should be more strict like this in Starcraft since it gains you more of an advantage than it does in WoW. Rebinds arn't macros, and if only one key is allowed to do one action then macros are banned.
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On September 11 2010 08:28 Terranist wrote:
i don't think you will find a solid source but i doubt that blizz cares about keyboard or mouse macros because too many people simply use them already and banning that many people is unjust. the purists like us at TL that hate all types of cheating that plagues our game and will obviously advise against the use of macros, but this community probably only accounts for a very little portion of SC2 players globally while the rest of the world has their logitech G or razer keyboards.
^I'm pretty sure Blizzard has already been banning people for keyboard macros; I don't see why mouse macros would be any different.
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If macros are illegal, then why does the Starcraft 2 Razer keyboard have macro recording capabilities?
http://www2.razerzone.com/sc2/marauder.php
EDIT: I would love it if Blizzard cleared up this stuff for Starcraft 2.
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Don't use macros. You'll be banned. Blizzard is taking a tough stance on this.
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On September 11 2010 08:11 Ullis wrote:
I am fairly certain I read somewhere that you are allowed to make 1:1 "macros", that is one button does one thing. So instead of pressing E for a probe I can click my mouse button for a probe. But I dont think 1:N is legal, that is where you do more than one thing with one click.
Yes.
One button one thing is allowed.
One button two things is not.
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