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South Africa3627 Posts
i especially take issue with sensor towers. because terran is such a good turtler, they're just so so easy to protect and imo, really pretty damn imba. also, zerg drop costs 300/300 doesn't it, not 250/250? (im thinking along the lines of 100/100 for ovie speed, 200/200 for drop) | ||
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
On September 10 2010 10:15 Subversion wrote: really good post raelcun, really good points and u really put ur finger on some issues. i especially take issue with sensor towers. because terran is such a good turtler, they're just so so easy to protect and imo, really pretty damn imba. also, zerg drop costs 300/300 doesn't it, not 250/250? (im thinking along the lines of 100/100 for ovie speed, 200/200 for drop) Yeah thought it was 150/150 for drops but they changed that didn't they, shows how little I actually play this game lol. I like to watch it far more hang on I'll fix that. And like I've said before it's not any one of these issues in particular it's how well they work together. | ||
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Dog22
United States140 Posts
On September 10 2010 10:12 drewbie.root wrote: how would them being light change anything? wouldn't it be better if they were armored, more units do bonus dmg vs armored, unless you want thors and phoenix to pwn medivacs Yes, I love phoenix in PvT, so I'm definitely biased in favor of light  It would also make phoenix reasonably more useful in a purely bio / medivac terran army... I might be eating my words later since stalkers wouldn't do as much. But I stand by my phoenix build  | ||
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
Marauder+stim+medivac should be the biggest headache for blizzs since its easy to pull off and hard to counter. | ||
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Khalleb
Canada1909 Posts
On September 10 2010 10:03 MegaBUD wrote: Medivac cost 100/100... and are light units with low hp... compare that to toss warp in... you must be trolling... medivac is one the drop mechanic who got the more HP, warp prisme is a paper plane... adn btw you idea of CD for sensor tower would be so cool | ||
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cerebralz
United States443 Posts
About 10 seconds for either removal, or re-joining would be sufficent (although not both). This way you don't sacrifice the ability of the Terran to mix and match, but slow it down so that you have to think about it and plan carefully, not instantly switch production modes. I also like Husky's idea (as well as other people) for adding back in the academy as a tier 1.5 tech building where you see the research happening for stim, reaper speed, and concussive shells. Researching marine shields at the tech lab isn't so bad because it only affects tier 1 units. Siege tech, and infernal preigniter i don't mind researching at the tech lab also, because the factory comes out later than the barracks. Also, the Thor air splash should be an upgrade at the armory, rewarded by a SLIGHTLY larger AoE than currently (hitting maybe 2-3 magic boxed mutas instead of 1). Starports are fine as it is imo. | ||
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
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Anxiety
United States650 Posts
On September 10 2010 10:04 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: sensor towers are fine and a cool addition to the game: they are very vulnerable and actually expensive (100 minerals 150 gas i believe?). medivacs are fine, since they are only useful with bio, and each race has sick ways to deal with bio. terran tech patterns are fine and unique. it wasn't really any different in broodwar, the main difference is that barracks, factory, and starport have many combinations of units that work well together. autorepair, i agree, is ridiculous. How are sensor towers vunurable? they have a HUGE range and you can build one in you base and the opponent can only dream of killing it. | ||
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Dystisis
Norway713 Posts
If I were to change it somehow, I would do something perhaps not immediately obvious, but I think very effective, namely lower Marauder range by 1. This would slightly help other units close in on Marauders, as well as lower their mobile power while stimmed a little bit. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
Make maximum capacity of a medivac 4 so 1 tank, 4 marines, or 2 marauders can fit. Then add a 200/200 upgrade to tech lab to double that. This also means thor drops require a special upgrade to work. | ||
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MegaBUD
Canada179 Posts
[QUOTE]On September 10 2010 10:03 MegaBUD wrote: Medivac cost 100/100... and are light units with low hp... compare that to toss warp in... QUOTE] you must be trolling... medivac is one the drop mechanic who got the more HP, warp prisme is a paper plane...[/QUOTE] Doesnt have a shield... and cant regen hp... but yeah you can repair it... with a cost... warp prism can power up your canon... and you can warp in units... Blizz wont make major change till next expension... The only thing they gonna do is play with the number, they had the whole beta to do thing... and they barely did anything. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
and btw, i applaud your slick naming of this thread to make it appear it's not a "balance thread." You name it "why it's not an imba issue" and then the thread is about things that appear imbalanced to you. ... | ||
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Khalleb
Canada1909 Posts
On September 10 2010 10:25 MegaBUD wrote: Doesnt have a shield... and cant regen hp... but yeah you can repair it... with a cost... warp prism can power up your canon... and you can warp in units... Blizz wont make major change till next expension... The only thing they gonna do is play with the number, they had the whole beta to do thing... and they barely did anything. yea true 200min for a moving pylon who can power up max of 2 canon explain his low hp, you forgot the 1 armor tho, how many time we see a medivac get out when if it was a warp prisme he would be dead 2 time ? i think that would not be that bad to remove the 1 armor | ||
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RoarMan
Canada745 Posts
That being said however I think it'd be better for the game to develop a bit more rather then make changes. That also being said I miss Ovie Speed being 50/50 | ||
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
On September 10 2010 10:26 avilo wrote: I really do not like how nowadays threads are aimed at how to change the game, rather than play the game better =/ and btw, i applaud your slick naming of this thread to make it appear it's not a "balance thread." You name it "why it's not an imba issue" and then the thread is about things that appear imbalanced to you. ... As a commentator I am less biased than most competitive players, I watch the game a lot and observe and I've seen many many different situations and the fact that Blizzard is still trying to fix things means that it still needs some adjustments. How quickly Blizzard can get all of these issues in order plus some others could decide the long term success of the game. Many games have failed because of issues that took too long to be acknowledged and fixed. So no I'm not a player I can't tell people how to play better, I can only make observations on what I think might need some working on. So that is what I am doing. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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taffy
United States28 Posts
Why not just fix the broken units? Does calling it "overtuned" help you get more buy-in from terrans? | ||
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Aquafresh
United States824 Posts
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lu_cid
United States428 Posts
On September 10 2010 10:26 avilo wrote: I really do not like how nowadays threads are aimed at how to change the game, rather than play the game better =/ and btw, i applaud your slick naming of this thread to make it appear it's not a "balance thread." You name it "why it's not an imba issue" and then the thread is about things that appear imbalanced to you. ... This... We're not in beta anymore. I don't think the game can be perfectly balanced at the moment without changing it drastically. Maybe they'll balance it after an expansion is released. | ||
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MonkeyKungFu
Norway154 Posts
You are spot on when it comes to the medivac, cant really understand why it hasn't been brought up sooner :\ I hope the medivac will require and upgrade for both drop and speed in the future. | ||
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