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Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 31 2010 16:21 GMT
#161
On September 01 2010 01:08 xlep wrote:

I totally share your point of view here. You'd think they'd be able to come to an agreement. I don't want to judge and of those, I'm just saying that Kespa is exactly the same.
Sure the korean scene made SCBW big, but Blizzard made SCBW. What Blizzard does now is wrong, but so are Kespas actions selling the broadcasting rights for Blizzards game and forcing Blizzard out with GOM (correct me if I'm wrong but Blizzard was a main sponsor for gom, right?)



Nope. Blizzard wasn't the main sponsor for GOM TV intel classic, they just granted the broadcasting rights. Sponsor of GOM TV classic have been TG Sambo and Intel.
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 31 2010 16:24 GMT
#162
On September 01 2010 01:21 Gregsen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 01:08 xlep wrote:

I totally share your point of view here. You'd think they'd be able to come to an agreement. I don't want to judge and of those, I'm just saying that Kespa is exactly the same.
Sure the korean scene made SCBW big, but Blizzard made SCBW. What Blizzard does now is wrong, but so are Kespas actions selling the broadcasting rights for Blizzards game and forcing Blizzard out with GOM (correct me if I'm wrong but Blizzard was a main sponsor for gom, right?)



Nope. Blizzard wasn't the main sponsor for GOM TV intel classic, they just granted the broadcasting rights. Sponsor of GOM TV classic have been TG Sambo and Intel.

I think Blizzard also threw in some extra prize money as well. I remember Tasteless constantly reminding viewers about the bigger prize pool thanks to Blizz
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 16:27:47
August 31 2010 16:25 GMT
#163
On September 01 2010 00:59 Mellotron wrote:
If i was a progamer, i might be secretly crossing my fingers for BW to finally be laid to rest. That way i could get a chance to play a new game for christs sake. No one ever wonders if the players themselves already stuck on proteams might be wanting a change, no matter what the financial risk. You think they are sitting around praising kespa for telling nada what he can and cant play? Humans dont work like that.



Jaedong: please, please Blizzard kill the game that lets me make hundreds and thousands of bucks and makes me super famous in my country so I can try my hand at something else and maybe, possibly regain half of my fame, at a game that is not as popular as the old one in korea at that *Jaedong crosses his finger in hope Blizzard kills SC:BW*


ehhh I'm not so sure



On September 01 2010 01:01 Garrl wrote:
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On September 01 2010 00:59 Mellotron wrote:
If i was a progamer, i might be secretly crossing my fingers for BW to finally be laid to rest. That way i could get a chance to play a new game for christs sake. No one ever wonders if the players themselves already stuck on proteams might be wanting a change, no matter what the financial risk. You think they are sitting around praising kespa for telling nada what he can and cant play? Humans dont work like that.


You do realise that most progamers look down on SC2 with disdain, right?




this too, If I recall Flash said SC2 sucks in Nal_ra's oldboy at some point in the show.
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xlep
Profile Joined December 2009
Germany274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 16:33:28
August 31 2010 16:27 GMT
#164
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure that I read that Blizzard started sponsoring GOM TV mid 09 and fall 09 Kespa pulled the teams out

/edit: just looked it up. I can't find a thread or something similar, but Liquipedia also mentions that Blizzard partnered with GOM during Season 3 (and put in 50 Mio Won). So call it "upcoming" sponsor if you like but they did try to put a considerable amount in.
skill is scissors beating rock
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 16:32:05
August 31 2010 16:31 GMT
#165
On September 01 2010 01:27 xlep wrote:
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure that I read that Blizzard started sponsoring GOM TV mid 09 and fall 09 Kespa pulled the teams out



Blizzard has not been the OFFICIAL SPONSOR, that is certain. They granted the broadcasting rights though, that way GOM TV dodged kespa who wanted to sell the broadcasting rights originally. Kespa got pissed off about this and pulled the proteams out of GOM TV Intel classic.

I hated that move, but Blizzard's reaction stands in no comparison to that.
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
antas
Profile Joined August 2010
Indonesia300 Posts
August 31 2010 16:32 GMT
#166

I totally share your point of view here. You'd think they'd be able to come to an agreement. I don't want to judge and of those, I'm just saying that Kespa is exactly the same.
Sure the korean scene made SCBW big, but Blizzard made SCBW. What Blizzard does now is wrong, but so are Kespas actions selling the broadcasting rights for Blizzards game and forcing Blizzard out with GOM (correct me if I'm wrong but Blizzard was a main sponsor for gom, right?)


Let us pray that this will be resolved soon. And hopefully those two can live happily ever after :D Lol ..

No, I'm serious here.
Entaro Adun!
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
August 31 2010 16:34 GMT
#167
On August 31 2010 21:22 stanley_ wrote:
sigh i guess i won't be buying sc2 anytime soon. RAGE

You havn't bought it already? lmao
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 16:37:39
August 31 2010 16:35 GMT
#168
On September 01 2010 01:34 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 21:22 stanley_ wrote:
sigh i guess i won't be buying sc2 anytime soon. RAGE

You havn't bought it already? lmao



me neither. Why the should I? Storyline is a joke. And just look how Activision fucked up battlenet 0.2. Have fun with a game that you haven't bought but playing for rent according to the license agreement.
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 16:41:26
August 31 2010 16:36 GMT
#169
On September 01 2010 01:35 Gregsen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 01:34 FindingPride wrote:
On August 31 2010 21:22 stanley_ wrote:
sigh i guess i won't be buying sc2 anytime soon. RAGE

You havn't bought it already? lmao



neither have I.

O well then. your loss. Enjoy playing bw. it was a great game.
but the Scene needs new air. And sc2 will bring that, merging the scenes. much more appealing as well to spectators.
xlep
Profile Joined December 2009
Germany274 Posts
August 31 2010 16:37 GMT
#170
On September 01 2010 01:31 Gregsen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 01:27 xlep wrote:
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure that I read that Blizzard started sponsoring GOM TV mid 09 and fall 09 Kespa pulled the teams out



Blizzard has not been the OFFICIAL SPONSOR, that is certain. They granted the broadcasting rights though, that way GOM TV dodged kespa who wanted to sell the broadcasting rights originally. Kespa got pissed off about this and pulled the proteams out of GOM TV Intel classic.

I hated that move, but Blizzard's reaction stands in no comparison to that.


So Kespa selling broadcasting rights to GOM is ok, but Blizzard selling them to OGN (via Gretech) isnt? With all respect to Kespa, but SC1 is still a game that Blizzard made and no company other then Blizzard has the right to sell broadcasting rights for it.
skill is scissors beating rock
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 31 2010 16:38 GMT
#171
On September 01 2010 01:36 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 01:35 Gregsen wrote:
On September 01 2010 01:34 FindingPride wrote:
On August 31 2010 21:22 stanley_ wrote:
sigh i guess i won't be buying sc2 anytime soon. RAGE

You havn't bought it already? lmao



neither have I.

O well then. your loss. Enjoy playing bw. its pretty dead i hear.
Scene needs new air. And sc2 will bring that, merging the scenes. much more appealing as well to spectators.



yeah, spectators love units to clump up into one giant ball that rolls over the map. NICE.
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
August 31 2010 16:39 GMT
#172
On September 01 2010 00:26 konadora wrote:
fuck you blizzard, seriously.

fucking leave brood war alone already.


Seriously. Fucking Blizzard. Just leave us hardcore BW fans alone. Don't try to force on me your fucking product because the harder you try the more I find it disgusting...
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 31 2010 16:39 GMT
#173
On September 01 2010 01:37 xlep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 01:31 Gregsen wrote:
On September 01 2010 01:27 xlep wrote:
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure that I read that Blizzard started sponsoring GOM TV mid 09 and fall 09 Kespa pulled the teams out



Blizzard has not been the OFFICIAL SPONSOR, that is certain. They granted the broadcasting rights though, that way GOM TV dodged kespa who wanted to sell the broadcasting rights originally. Kespa got pissed off about this and pulled the proteams out of GOM TV Intel classic.

I hated that move, but Blizzard's reaction stands in no comparison to that.


So Kespa selling broadcasting rights to GOM is ok, but Blizzard selling them to OGN (via Gretech) isnt? With all respect to Kespa, but SC1 is still a game that Blizzard made and no company other then Blizzard has the right to sell broadcasting rights for it.


Hard to believe but you're still missing the issue. Go and read my post from the last page again.
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 31 2010 16:41 GMT
#174
On September 01 2010 01:36 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 01:35 Gregsen wrote:
On September 01 2010 01:34 FindingPride wrote:
On August 31 2010 21:22 stanley_ wrote:
sigh i guess i won't be buying sc2 anytime soon. RAGE

You havn't bought it already? lmao



neither have I.

O well then. your loss. Enjoy playing bw. its pretty dead i hear.
Scene needs new air. And sc2 will bring that, merging the scenes. much more appealing as well to spectators.


Oh, and also: As you can see, there is no real merge that is happening. It's rather the old fans being disgusted by blizzard, and the new ones trying to hype a shitty product.
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
August 31 2010 16:42 GMT
#175
On September 01 2010 01:38 Gregsen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 01:36 FindingPride wrote:
On September 01 2010 01:35 Gregsen wrote:
On September 01 2010 01:34 FindingPride wrote:
On August 31 2010 21:22 stanley_ wrote:
sigh i guess i won't be buying sc2 anytime soon. RAGE

You havn't bought it already? lmao



neither have I.

O well then. your loss. Enjoy playing bw. its pretty dead i hear.
Scene needs new air. And sc2 will bring that, merging the scenes. much more appealing as well to spectators.



yeah, spectators love units to clump up into one giant ball that rolls over the map. NICE.

Game has evolved quite a bit since then. its much harder then that.
KasPra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Estonia983 Posts
August 31 2010 16:43 GMT
#176
On September 01 2010 01:38 Gregsen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 01:36 FindingPride wrote:
On September 01 2010 01:35 Gregsen wrote:
On September 01 2010 01:34 FindingPride wrote:
On August 31 2010 21:22 stanley_ wrote:
sigh i guess i won't be buying sc2 anytime soon. RAGE

You havn't bought it already? lmao



neither have I.

O well then. your loss. Enjoy playing bw. its pretty dead i hear.
Scene needs new air. And sc2 will bring that, merging the scenes. much more appealing as well to spectators.



yeah, spectators love units to clump up into one giant ball that rolls over the map. NICE.


It's better to just leave him alone, he probably hasnt even seen a pro bw match in his life.

In other news, fuck blizz I find it disgusting i actually was a big fan of that company some years ago and pumped up as hell about sc2.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
August 31 2010 16:45 GMT
#177
On September 01 2010 01:25 swanized wrote:


this too, If I recall Flash said SC2 sucks in Nal_ra's oldboy at some point in the show.


if i recall correctly it was violet, and it went something like this (according to my memory)

Nal_Ra: My shield batteries should have infinite range

Violet: Sounds like Starcraft 2!
I drop suckas like Plinko
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 31 2010 16:48 GMT
#178
On September 01 2010 01:45 Gann1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 01:25 swanized wrote:


this too, If I recall Flash said SC2 sucks in Nal_ra's oldboy at some point in the show.


if i recall correctly it was violet, and it went something like this (according to my memory)

Nal_Ra: My shield batteries should have infinite range

Violet: Sounds like Starcraft 2!




hahahahaha
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 16:59:39
August 31 2010 16:49 GMT
#179
On August 31 2010 20:20 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2010 20:16 Holgerius wrote:
Goddamnit Blizzard, I'm gonna boycott your stuff from now on. >:[

This.
And I won't log into SC2 ever again if things stay that way (I played with some friends cause they did not wan't to play broodwar... I'm sad.).


Is anyone 100% sure of all facts about the situation?
Can anyone blame Blizzard entirely for this?
Is Kespa an organisation which we ought to love and blindly follow?

I've never considered Kespa to be a "players association" It consists of the financial dudes behind the leagues, no players.
The majority of the players are hardly payed, their "freedom" as free agents or players before that is ridicilous.
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 16:50:54
August 31 2010 16:50 GMT
#180
On September 01 2010 01:35 Gregsen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 01:34 FindingPride wrote:
On August 31 2010 21:22 stanley_ wrote:
sigh i guess i won't be buying sc2 anytime soon. RAGE

You havn't bought it already? lmao



me neither. Why the should I? Storyline is a joke. And just look how Activision fucked up battlenet 0.2. Have fun with a game that you haven't bought but playing for rent according to the license agreement.

story line is a joke and u havn't bought the game?
out of curiosity since BW's story line is so wonderful have you played any game besides bw in the past 11 years?
do you live in a cave? SC2 had a really really good storyline imo. but haters gonna hate..
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