EPTSCVs air-unit-repair - Page 2
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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Thaddaeus
Germany107 Posts
On September 06 2010 19:45 Bensio wrote: Its one of the advantages of terran, yes it can be annoying, but everything can be exaggerated imo. No im not terran, zerg actually, but I think feedback can be made to look OP as well, 5 temps behind your army and 1/2 of the terran units are drained of all energy and either damaged or destroyed. Just yesterday i was fighting 4 BCs with like 15-20 Stalkers and 7 HTs (pluss cannons but they were not all in reach). BCs had full energy as they arrived at my Expo. The moment i used feedback the terran started to rain down mules and i had to warp in stalkers from 8 gates ++ two times to hold it off. I also stormed the mules (which is quite hard as one storm wont do it due to the wide BC model. Its not undoable but as blizz also said, its quite hard to counter this. | ||
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sadyque
Romania251 Posts
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theSAiNT
United States726 Posts
As a zerg player who has to deal with repairing SCVs on a Thor, this has always been an issue for me. An alternative fix which I much prefer would be to change the attack priority on repairing scvs. At the moment they're basically invulnerable to everything but splash damage. As many people have pointed out, targetting scvs under a large thor or battlecruiser is tricky. They should at least have the same priority as other offensive units as soon as they start repairing. A relevant point from another game: ![[image loading]](http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/217534009_hZ5oD-L-2.jpg) | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
Only way to fix it is to nerf the effect of mass-repairing a unit. | ||
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np.Resuscitate
United States60 Posts
 watching him lose to this live was awful, especially knowing it would be patched soon... such an unworthy loss. | ||
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Voyager I
United States260 Posts
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Batch
Sweden692 Posts
As I see there are three possible solutions: 1) Only allow 1 SCV/MULE to repear the unit at once. 2) Change the attack priority to give the repairing units a high priority in the same way medivacs are high priority targets. 3) Units becomes unable to attack while being repaired. My guess is that Blizzard goes for the second solution even if I rather would like to see something that made planetary fortresses less invulnerable. | ||
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threehundred
Canada911 Posts
On September 06 2010 20:44 Voyager I wrote: I really don't think the nerf from 10 to 8 damage would have broken August's build, given the size of the ground army he had backing it up. I agree, I think Augustwerra's army size and composition was pretty solid, the battlecruiser gave him a certain timing edge where the protoss can't really muster enough anti-air to hold off the bc while fighting head on with the terran army. if they need to nerf anything, nerf the repair and/or give the protoss like scouts again. lol | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On September 06 2010 21:24 threehundred wrote: You have no idea how happy I would be to get scouts I agree, I think Augustwerra's army size and composition was pretty solid, the battlecruiser gave him a certain timing edge where the protoss can't really muster enough anti-air to hold off the bc while fighting head on with the terran army. if they need to nerf anything, nerf the repair and/or give the protoss like scouts again. lol Protoss desperately need a really good anti-air option. | ||
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me_viet
Australia1350 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=150082 I have to say, this repair business is what makes this so imba. TO those who hasn't seen the rep, your pretty much rushing for it asap, all the while pumping marines + scv's (don't cost gas). When the BC pops, you move out with your marine force and all your scv's minus 12 (6 on gas + 6 on minerals). That's ALL you need to support BC production and marines out of 2 Rax + repair + Supplies. Proceed to roll over your opponent with 20-30 scv's + 15 - 25 Marines. If they base trade, you bring the factory with you. If not, you continuously add to your BC + rines number. I'm a Diamond 850+ Zerg player, I've beaten a 1k+ diamond protoss player with it. And a slew of other Diamond players around my rank in ladder. I HAVE lost some games, but that's usually because I get out the BC's too late (1 whole minute late/rsupplyblocked/res management) or 4get to rally reinforcing BC's and it was still close (base trade). I'd post some reps but alas it was at a LaN party and I was showing off my prowess by picking any race and owning them with it WITH a 'bad' strat. Thus disgustingly suprised by how strong it was. Imo, Repair should not be auto-casted. Just takes away so much of the micro. I'm seeing a lot of T just bringing 5-6 scv's with their push now and turns on auto-repair. I have to target fire with roaches and focus firing with roaches is detrimental due to how big the overkill is (16base dmg/slow attack speed + short range). Just a rant after losing to a fast thor drop + scv's | ||
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me_viet
Australia1350 Posts
On September 06 2010 21:27 Plexa wrote: You have no idea how happy I would be to get scouts Protoss desperately need a really good anti-air option.Scouts were only used in 'the stove' , considered possibly the worse/least used units, and now a protoss(?) wants it back. Any1 else finds this funny yet makes them sad at the same time? | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
They did have that ungodly air attack. | ||
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Voyager I
United States260 Posts
On September 06 2010 21:41 me_viet wrote: Scouts were only used in 'the stove' , considered possibly the worse/least used units, and now a protoss(?) wants it back. Any1 else finds this funny yet makes them sad at the same time? In BW, BCs were terrible aside from Yamato and Void Rays didn't exist. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On September 06 2010 21:51 Voyager I wrote: In BW, BCs were terrible aside from Yamato and Void Rays didn't exist. More like they were expensive and you didn't need them. They were really hard to kill in BW since they destroyed everything that countered them if you were willing to spend gobs of $$ and map control to do it. | ||
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TibblesEvilCat
United Kingdom766 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On September 06 2010 21:41 me_viet wrote: That doesn't change the fact that scouts in sc1 were arguably the best Air to Air unit in the game - 28 damage is nothing to scoff at!Scouts were only used in 'the stove' , considered possibly the worse/least used units, and now a protoss(?) wants it back. Any1 else finds this funny yet makes them sad at the same time? | ||
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
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Immersion_
United Kingdom794 Posts
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