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anon195
15 Posts
On August 10 2010 05:23 Sqq wrote: Let me explain it to you like this. Terran is Fritzl, and Protoss and Zerg are locked in the basement waiting to get raep. do you by any chance browse any anonymous imageboards? | ||
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Chicodog
Denmark154 Posts
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
Personally I'm finding TvZ the easiest and TvP the hardest, ZvP the easiest and ZvT the hardest (matchup in the entire game) And for protoss i find PvZ easier (I love you collosi) than PvT | ||
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Prophecy3
Canada223 Posts
First off, i'm Terran, have been all broodwar, and all SC2. There are a couple things within terran that make it so much stronger then the other races right now. EMP - OP! Seriously. It is. instacast?... It should have stayed a dodgable shot, problem solved. Tech tree - Terran has the most efficient tech tree imo, since all tech can be built of 3.5 structures (.5 for techlab) which are available quite quickly, and fairly cheap. Range - ALL units have significant range, making certain areas "killzones". Also allows you to not worry about silly melee units, and having to get close into danger and commit units. Versatility and Army Coherence - Terran units support each other much more effectively then the other races, and mid to late game a properly built Terran deathball is pretty fearsome. Terran was once compared to a swiss army knife, in that it's got a tool for each job, and it comes together in such a perfect pacakge.. That being said.. Because the other races haven't learned to have cohesive and interdependent armies, Terran seems to be steam rolling the other races. In my personal experience TvZ is by far the easiest, basically every unit I have is good against most of zerg in some way. There are so many viable builds and exploitable timing windows I smile everytime I get a TvZ, because you can force zerg to play your game with your unit composition. Just having tanks on the field forces zerg to try and get air, because if it doesn't it will slowly be creeped and dominated. TvP however is to me the most fun because it's the most challenging, I feel like protoss has much more tools and options than zerg to threaten Terran play. However, I still feel that when all tools are out on the board and both races are felt out more, Terran will still have many advantages. PvZ is I think the most balanced matchup, the games are face paced and interesting with many many avenues for both races to go early on. Thus I feel there is a certain leaning of Racial power towards Terran. However once the other 2 races are felt out more that will change. T > Z T > P P v Z though.. Couldn't call that. No idea. =) | ||
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Zuxo
Sweden395 Posts
T>P P-Z Even matchup i would say Pretty much agree with everything that Prophecy3 wrote, especially about how the EMP slaughters Prottos with its instacast. Edit: Sqq, wow that was brutal | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
Terran not doing a very good job of being overpowered it seems. | ||
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Monkey5020
New Zealand24 Posts
TvZ yea thats in terrans favour right now. Again they are just a one unit monkey race massing speedlings but they arent anywhere near as op as stalkers. Agree Z v P is the most balance match up right now. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On August 10 2010 05:17 Shifft wrote: You're the only one that finds ZvT easy bro. ZvT is super easy and ZvP is my hardest matchup for this zerg player. | ||
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virgozero
Canada412 Posts
On August 10 2010 05:17 Shifft wrote: You're the only one that finds ZvT easy bro. tons of people find ZvT easy , in fact my friend as T finds Z hard. People that do find the other way will complain, peole that don't wont. So of course you dont see them on forums. They are going to make a thread "oh haii i like playing againts T ^_^ tyvm" cocky much? | ||
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sikyon
Canada1045 Posts
It's probably because Z requires a different mindset to play for me. | ||
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Taniard
United States114 Posts
On August 10 2010 05:17 Shifft wrote: You're the only one that finds ZvT easy bro. Yeah pretty much, even IdrA has been complaining about ZvT. Watch one of his series with Silver. Lol i would give a lot to find ZvT easy. | ||
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Zuxo
Sweden395 Posts
On August 10 2010 08:52 Monkey5020 wrote: Plus the stalker is far too good both outranging and having higher movespeed than anything terran can build and with the sick out of combat regen protoss can pull far ahead before medivacs arrive. I believe that maraduers have the same range as the stalker and "concussive shell"? Just pawns stalkers. Edit: | ||
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InSpiReZerG
United States159 Posts
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Torture
Canada221 Posts
As a random player I've noticed a personal rock, paper, scissors trend were each of my matchups are strong against another. Like as a zerg I find terran easy and protoss hard and as a terran I find protoss easy and zerg hard. I've read a lot about a slight ballance issue in brood war where zerg>protoss>terran>zerg. Could SC2 have the same issue but in the opposite direction or is this just my personal abilities? I'm a Diamond Protoss player and I find Terran to be one of my easiest matchups. The only conclusion I can draw from this is that Paper beats Scissors. I believe that maraduers have the same range as the stalker and "concussive shell"? Just pawns stalkers. Chargelots owwwwwn Marauders. ForceField is your friend when you're waiting for charge. The only thing that Husky's video showed is that when 100 supply of Marauders are shooting the entire time they're better than Zealots because Zealots can't get through to attack. I'd like to see the result of that on a smaller scale where the Zealots could all attack. | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
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Torture
Canada221 Posts
On August 10 2010 08:58 Taniard wrote: Yeah pretty much, even IdrA has been complaining about ZvT. Watch one of his series with Silver. Lol i would give a lot to find ZvT easy. Even IdrA? IdrA is perhaps the most vocal that Terran is overpowered. IdrA HAAAAAAAAAAATES Terran. Probably more than TLO hates Drones - "I don't play Terran because I have self respect" IdrA is the focal point for most of the zerg complaints. Lower level Zerg players see IdrA complaining and remember that when they lose to a Terran player (perhaps legitimately, perhaps because of balance issues) so then they come to the forums and whine about it. I don't play Zerg or Terran, so maybe he is right, I'm just saying that IdrA complaining basically incites more Zerg complaining It would be the same way if TLO said that Void Rays were imbalanced, or if WhiteRa (DuckLoad!) said ghosts were overpowered. | ||
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Spyridon
United States997 Posts
On August 10 2010 10:07 Torture wrote: Even IdrA? IdrA is perhaps the most vocal that Terran is overpowered. IdrA HAAAAAAAAAAATES Terran. Probably more than TLO hates Drones - "I don't play Terran because I have self respect" IdrA is the focal point for most of the zerg complaints. Lower level Zerg players see IdrA complaining and remember that when they lose to a Terran player (perhaps legitimately, perhaps because of balance issues) so then they come to the forums and whine about it. I don't play Zerg or Terran, so maybe he is right, I'm just saying that IdrA complaining basically incites more Zerg complaining It would be the same way if TLO said that Void Rays were imbalanced, or if WhiteRa (DuckLoad!) said ghosts were overpowered. Did you notice that even TLO stopped playing Zerg in tournaments in favor of Terran? Even though he has talked about his enjoyment of Zerg in recent interviews? TLO is one of the most knowledgeable, creative, and respected players out there. That should say something about the states of the races at the very top levels. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On August 10 2010 08:49 Yaotzin wrote: http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/all/1/all Terran not doing a very good job of being overpowered it seems. i counted the Terrans in top 100 EU and NA, i dont remember the exact number but it was close to 50 in Europe yesterday, and it was 46 in NA just recently. So if we exclude the random players it's safe to state that at the highest level more than 50% are terrans atm, at least on those 2 servers. Unfortunately rts-sacntuary's servers are busy atm so i canot provide perfect numbers but that's abut it. | ||
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
On August 10 2010 18:27 Spyridon wrote: Did you notice that even TLO stopped playing Zerg in tournaments in favor of Terran? Even though he has talked about his enjoyment of Zerg in recent interviews? TLO is one of the most knowledgeable, creative, and respected players out there. That should say something about the states of the races at the very top levels. He occasionally plays zerg, mostly terran, but never protoss. That must mean that Protoss is the weakest race, right? IdrA, one of the best sc2 players, plays Zerg, so that must mean that Zerg is the best, right? No, because you cant just use 1 example out of a million to prove a point : / | ||
Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
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